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1864.1 | | PELKEY::PELKEY | Professional Aumbre | Wed Jun 13 1990 11:10 | 5 |
| good learning forum indeed, but to read vs. hear,,, things will get
lost, especially when it comes to improv.
I'll post a few visits, but for nwo, I'll have to ponder this..
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1864.2 | Couldn't do it even if I wanted to | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | No, I'm very, very shy. | Wed Jun 13 1990 12:02 | 9 |
| I wish I *had* 12 hours a day to study theory...
Take a look around this notes file. There are many notes that have licks,
chord progressions and such. There's even notes on theory, if you have
any interest in that. I've found this file to have a wealth of information!
Good luck!
Greg
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1864.3 | Check out.... | SMURF::BENNETT | Milli is not HipHop | Wed Jun 13 1990 15:13 | 12 |
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The Master's Series article in the September `89 issue of GP
(it has Pete Townsend w/Tele on the cover). The article is
called "Power Practicing - getting the most from your practice
time". It shows how to squeeze all 12 major scales out of a
single 6-fret wide playing position. After learning the fingering
I'm now able to play any major scale anywhere on the neck.
That's come in handy for the next part which has been the study
of the modes and how they are applied to chord construction and
improvising over chord changes.
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1864.4 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Naaa... We can't let Steve drive! | Thu Jun 14 1990 10:11 | 58 |
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I was playing away last night, working hard on getting artificial
harmonics down pat.
Anyway, it was coming along quite well when I went a little bit
mad with the 'catching the string with the side of the thumb' tech
and I sliced a piece of skin off my thumb with the high E string.
Anyway, I said words to the effect of 'oh dear didn't that heard?'
(generally in loud four letter words). I tried to continue to play
but there was this piece of skin hanging off and it was picking the
string directly above the one I used the pick on - so I had a second
pick 8^). (great for country playing but a bit of a mess 8^) ).
Anyway, that got too painful (duhh!!) so I packed it in sharpish, and
quickly decided that I wasn't going to be doing on work using my right
thumb (so I can't use a plectrum, or pick with the thumb).
Anyway, to cut a long story short I started working on pull-offs,
something I've never been exactly good at, and was amazed at
the results I got. I always had a problem with quick wide runs on
the E,A and D strings, with just hammers and pulloffs but after
last night its really coming along well.
What I did was, played the following, without picking a single note
(not even the first - remember, my thumb was kinda sore! 8^) :-
h p h p h p h p
E 3-7-3-5-3-7-3-5-3- (high E)
Then move it to the B string, but arch your left hand more,
(move your left elbow down slightly, this helps the arching).
Keep moving up the strings - eachtime, slight lowering your left
elbow so you can really PULL the notes off, as apposed to just light
them slide off, which was always my old mistake). Try it with these
patterns :-
h h p h p h p h p h h p h p h p h p h h p h p h p h p
E|-5-8-5-7-5-8-5-7-5 E|-5-8-5-6-5-8-5-6-5 E|-5-7-5-6-5-7-5-6-5
After you've worked on these try and play this simple lick :-
(fast as possible)
h h p h p h p h p h p h p h p h p h p h p h p h p h
E|-5-8-5-7-5-8-5-7-5-8-5-7-5-8-5-7-5-------------------------------
B|-----------------------------------8-5-7-5-----------------------
G|-------------------------------------------8-5-7-5---------------
D|---------------------------------------------------7-(wide vib)--
See how easy it is ?
Do it on all strings and this will really get you around the fingerboard.
Even when you have a band aid on your thumb 8^)
-Tony
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1864.5 | | ACESMK::KUHN | Jay Kuhn MKO2 | Thu Jun 14 1990 12:52 | 18 |
| Speaking of learning the fretboard, There is an excellent 'quick and
diry' guide to modes in Scott Hendersons column in last months issue
of Guitar world. It really helped me. Henderson explains that you don't
have to know out all the theory of modes ect. to use them, its how you
sound thats inportant. Of course its good to know all that stuff, but
i'm not that interested.
Basically (I'm sure most of you guys know this!) Henderson says that
a mode is a Major scale starting on a different note. Certain modes are
valid over certain chords. For example, To use a Lydian (?) mode,
which goes with a Maj7 #11 chord. you play a major scale starting
on G (the 5th). If its a A maj7 #11, you would play a E major scale.
Or over a Min7 chord, you could do the same thing starting a minor 3d
above the root, for example a Amin7, play a C major scale.
His article really cleared that stuff up and provided a short cut for
my limited playing. He also lists all the modes and chord combinations.
jay
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1864.6 | re .5 | SMURF::BENNETT | Nova Mob Go | Thu Jun 14 1990 16:28 | 14 |
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Note from a major scale with a different start - I wouldn't
have attempted to begin modes without approaching it that
way. Sitting down to learn F mixo would be a drag if I couldn't
cheat with G minor or Bb major.
Once I get the notes down I go hunting for chord forms that
line up with the notes - add#11 being one of my favorite IV
chord forms. I'm starting to be able to know what mode to use
by the chord and that's a great feeling.
I'll poke around for that issue. There's also an issue - GW from
maybe June `89 (Vito Bratta on cover) with a "Heavy Metal
Workshop" in the back that covers modes.
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1864.7 | re last | ACESMK::KUHN | Jay Kuhn MKO2 | Thu Jun 14 1990 16:58 | 6 |
| The issue with this mode stuff is the Guitar World with Ozzie's guitar
player on the front, Wylde? He has a bulls eye painted on his Les Paul.
P.S. what sounds like a neat scale (i haven't tried it) is over a
min7 w/ flatted 5th you start the major scale 1/2 step up from the root.
I think thats the chord.
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1864.8 | YUP m7-5 | SMURF::BENNETT | Nova Mob Go | Thu Jun 14 1990 17:10 | 12 |
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That's a good tonic chord in locrian - the mode you get if
you play a major pattern but use the maj7 as the root. And
you're right - a lot of the other guys already know this stuff
cold & we're just moving in a different wave.
I posted a note some time ago about mapping the modes to days
of the week and saturating yourself in it. Check out 1840.13.
If ya had yer analogical wheaties this morning take a poke at
1862.0. There are several earlier notes on modes as well.
ccb
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1864.9 | If I remember correctly... ;^) ;^) | SALEM::ABATELLI | Labs_R_Us | Fri Jun 15 1990 10:01 | 9 |
| I was told a LONG time ago a simple fact...
"all the notes you need are on that fretboard...
the trick is to hit the right ones at the right time".
What a wise guy huh?
Fred (who can't be serious all the time)
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1864.10 | | AQUA::ROST | I'll do anything for money | Fri Jun 15 1990 10:08 | 4 |
| Re: .9
Sounds like the first paragraph in the Les Paul Guitar Method book
8^) 8^) 8^)
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1864.11 | Poly - phoney | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | This is your brain on Unix | Fri Jun 15 1990 10:42 | 11 |
| > "all the notes you need are on that fretboard...
> the trick is to hit the right ones at the right time".
That's why these days I'm playing primarily keyboards.
On guitar, you can only play six at a time.
On my piano, I can hit 88 at a time, so I have a much better chance
at hitting the "right ones".
db
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