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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1854.0. "What I'm doing on my summer vacation" by MISFIT::KINNEYD (ABNORMAL - Do not use this Brain) Wed Jun 06 1990 15:07

My summer basement project.

I have a rough unidentified sunburst hollow body guitar with no guts installed.
I also have what apperently is the orig wires, knobs, switches and pickups
that came with it in a brown paper bag, but I haven't decided whether it
would be better to buy all new wires, knobs, switches, etc. There are two 
pickups, four knobs and one three position switch. The body is your basic 
old beatup plywood type. Definitly not a classic but probably good for killing
more than a couple of evenings.

Questions:

Are there wiring kits that can be installed easily, or am I better off
getting a scematic for say a 335 and going from scratch? 

Or do I just go with the original stuff and see if it works at all? 

Where do I pick them up and how much do they go for?

How do I fish the wire through the body to install them? I have read of
folks that removed the back from the body to wire it up. Is this the only
practical way to do this?

If so, how do I go about removing the back without damaging the body?


Just getting started.

Dave Kinney
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1854.1It's all done with wires!LUDWIG::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Wed Jun 06 1990 16:3017
    Re. installing the parts
    
    I seem to remember an article in Guitar Player eons ago about replacing
    parts in a 335-type guitar.
    
    All the electric parts (switch, jack, pickups and pots) are soldered
    together OUTSIDE the guitar. (Be sure to leave enough wire for the
    parts to fit properly.)
    
    Attach a short (2 feet or so) piece of soft wire to every part.
    Feed each part into the guitar body through the lower pickup hole,
    using the soft wire to pull each part into its respective place;
    obviously, the lower pickup will be the final part secured.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    					--Eric--
1854.2VLNVAX::ALECLAIREFri Jun 08 1990 10:137
    IN my jazz guitar I use string. The wiring is all done outside the
    body. A string goes thru each component hole from the top into the
    body, back out thru the pickup holes. Each string gets tied to it's
    respective component and you yank the components thru and into the
    holes. I find this easier than the wires because you tie them outside
    the body and don't have to go stabbing around inside the guitar.
    Of course it's not a Gibson..
1854.3PELKEY::PELKEYProfessional AumbreWed Jun 13 1990 13:321
I'm hangin out by the corner of walnut and elm myself!
1854.4I'm on a questFREEBE::REAUMEWEEKENDworkweekWEEKENDworkweek...Tue Jun 19 1990 11:4416
      I'm giving my guitars and amps a rest for a week. Polish 'em up
    and put them away because I'll be outatown! They'll ait for me to
    come back.
      So what am I doing. Well - I do have other interests besides 
    music. I'm heading out to Dallas, Texas to do some time on a 
    new Roller Coaster. It's a annual convention thing for the 
    American Coaster Enthusiasts, lotsa friends from all over the country
    (actually all over the world) getting together and having a blast.
    This is NOT a crew of people that get queasy on rides. I'll probably
    ride the new "Texas Giant" a hundred times before the weekend is
    out. This year is a banner year with four brand new WOODEN roller
    coasters. I've already been on two of them, Texas is the third,
    and the fourth one should open in Kentucky in July. 
      Then it's back to my guitar!
    
    							---/boom/---
1854.5isn't that what you put glasses on?UPWARD::HEISERBach's Bourr�eWed Jun 20 1990 00:175
    I LOVE COASTERS!  How do you get involved in this sort of thing?  I'm
    going to LA next month to try out the new ones at Knotts Berry Farm and
    Magic Mountain.
    
    Mike
1854.6OLD BUT STILL THE BEST!!!!!HAMER::KRONI'm the Amoral Minority!Wed Jun 20 1990 10:559
     If you like rollercoasters.....pack up your undies,your uzis and
    come on by here.....you can ride the "A"train down to coney island
    and check your wallet and keys and anything else that's not permanently
    attached to your body with the attendant and take a spin on the
    CYCLONE......The ULTIMATE RIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The reason for
    the checkin of belongings is that if you keep 'em with you on
    the ride......YOU WILL LOSE THEM!!!!!
    
    -Bill                               
1854.7and your stomach is back up thereFREEBE::REAUMEWEEKENDworkweekWEEKENDworkweek...Thu Jun 28 1990 12:2020
      re .6   - I'm very familiar with the Coney Island Cyclone! Back
    when I lived in Manhattan and was on call I would kill a whole day
    at Coney Island. Back in 1981 you could ride everything in Astroland
    including the Cyclone for $7.99 and I got my moneys worth. As a
    matter of fact the two roller coasters I've had the most rides on
    would have to be the Crystal Beach Comet (over 500 rides!) and the
    classic Coney Island Cyclone (over 200 rides). Unfortunately you
    can't get an all-day pass on te Cyclone anymore, the pay-one-price
    deal gets you something like 5 Cyclone rides and a single ride was
    three bucks last year! All-in-all the Coney Island Cyclone built
    in 1928 is a great ride, a true classic that can hold its own against
    most of the newer rides built in the last sixty years.
      And if you need a cold brew when you get off the Cyclone there's
    a food and beer stand right across from the entrance. Only in NYC!
    I know this is a little off track, but I'll enter my "top ten" right
    after this reply for any of you tht may be interested in hitting
    the rails this summer!
    
    							---/boom/---
     
1854.8PNO::HEISERPhoenix hits 125�, Film @ 11 meltsThu Jun 28 1990 13:171
    I'm frying my brains this summer just by walking to work!
1854.9Yee Hah!SMURF::BENNETTSilence == DeathThu Jun 28 1990 16:1211
	Crystal Beach Comet!!! The coaster I grew up on & on only threw
	up after once. What a gas. I've probably got ~100 rides on it.
	I actually liked the Yellow one a bit more.

	Summer Vaction: I took a Wife, a Bullet and an Ibanez RP100
	headphone amp and spent a week in a cabin on The Cape. Way Cool.


	I know one guy taking summer vacation at NGSW in Connecticut (sp)
	anybody else? Any feedback?
1854.10Off - top ten roller coastersFREEBE::REAUMEWEEKENDworkweekWEEKENDworkweek...Thu Jun 28 1990 17:5072
        
     1 -  Texas Giant / Six Flags over Texas; Arlington, TX
        New this year! Two words describe it: Wonderfully Brutal.
        Billed as the tallest wooden roller coaster in the world 
    	at 143 feet high, this one will shake you!
    
     2 -  Coney Island Cyclone / Astroland; Brooklyn, NY
        Built in 1928, it's a true classic and in fact is designated
    	a landmark. It's a twisting wooden coaster with huge, old,
    	heavy (and heavily padded) trains. One wild ride!
    
     3 -  Timberwolf / Worlds of Fun; Kansas City, MO 
	New last year, this wooden coaster features speed and plenty
    	of negative G's (coaster term for flying out of your seat).
    
     4 -  LeMonstre / LaRonde; Montreal, Quebec, Canada
        Another wood coaster, 125 feet high with two different tracks
        that actually cross over each other a dozen times.
    
     5 -  The Beast / Kings Island; Cincinatti, OH
        The longest wooden coaster in the world, it acheives this
        by having two chain lifts. It's a fast ride through the
    	woods with tunnels and turns galore.

     6 -  Magnum XL-200 / Cedar Point; Sandusky, OH
        The tallest coaster in the world at 201 feet, this one is
        made of steel (That's right 1 thru 5 were all wood). Most
    	steel coasters feature loops, this one doesn't need them
    	to be a great ride.
    
     7 -  Big Bad Wolf / Busch Gardens; Williamsburg, VA
    	The one suspended coaster in this list (that's right, it hangs
    	from the track). The drop after the second lift is fantastic,
    	it pulls out to the left just as it approaches a river. 

     8 -  The Predator / Darien Lake; Corfu, NY
    	Another wooden coaster with great speed and negative G's.
    	The second turn is a drop turn that will pin you to your seat.
    
     9 -  Riverside Cyclone / Riverside Park; Agawam, MA
        Again a wood twister-type coaster. The first drop is right
    	into a steeply banked 180 degree turn. Rough and tough.
    
    10 -  Montana Rusa / Chatapultapec Park; Mexico City, Mexico
        You have to leave the country to ride this one, but what a ride!
    	Two 125 foot high tracks that race side by side. This wood 
    	coaster was the inspiration f the Colossus coaster at
    	Six Flags Magic Mountain. Colossus isn't a bad ride, but 
    	this one is the winner of the two.
    
    Honorable Mention:
    
    	Ninja / Magic Mountain (CA)
        Revolution / Magic Mountain (CA)
    	Shockwave / Six Flags Great America (IL)
    	Iron Wolf / Six Flags Great America (IL)
    	Screaming Eagle / Six Flags over-America (MO)
	Phoenix / Knoebel's Amusement Resort (PA)
    	Mind Bender / Six Flags over Georgia (GA)
    	Avalanche / King's Dominion (VA)
    	Loch Ness Monster / Busch Gardens (VA)
    
        I haven't ridden the Viper at Magic Mountain, but if I had
      it could've been under consideration. Previously on the list
      but removed because they are not operating are the Crystal Beach
      Comet and the Swamp Fox (Myrtle Beach). The Texas Cyclone used
      to be a contender, but is actually a shadow of its former self
      due to new trains and general operating condition.
    
    						---/boom/---
    
    						(back to my guitar) 	
1854.11No Pun IntendedAQUA::ROSTGet up and get hip to the tripThu Jun 28 1990 18:055
    Geez...
    
    First it was Rock and wrestling, now it's rock and roller coasters...
    
    8^)  8^)  8^)
1854.12UPWARD::HEISERPhoenix hits 125�, Film @ 11 meltsThu Jun 28 1990 19:087
    Re: Magic Mountain
    
    I'm surprised the Revolution was honorable mention, I love that one.  I
    guess I'll have to try some of the top 10.  What did you think of the
    Colossus at Magic Mountain?
    
    Mike
1854.13yep - I'm off track againFREEBE::REAUMEWEEKENDworkweekWEEKENDworkweek...Fri Jun 29 1990 11:3719
      I know , I know - but I did say "back to my guitar" , didn't I?
    
      I was looking for the SCREAM::ROLLER_COASTERS note but I guess
    it doesn't exist. I just used one reply to express my opinion,
    and that's all it is. 
    
      Mike - Magic Mountain is one of my favorite four theme parks.
    The other hree are: Six Flags over Texas, Cedar Point, and 
    Kings Island. As for the non-theme parks, which we call traditional,
    I like almost all of them but the standouts are Kennywood Park in
    Pittsburg, PA and Lakeside Park in Denver, CO. 
      As for Colossus, it has nice drops but flat curves and even though
    there are two tracks side by side they NEVER race the trains (they
    used to, but supposedly there was a court order or something like
    that). What the heck, go to Mexico City and ride the "real"
    Colossus.
    						-back to my KH warehouse-
    
    							-/b/-
1854.14static on the line!FREEBE::REAUMEWEEKENDworkweekWEEKENDworkweek...Fri Jun 29 1990 17:428
    I HATE noting through a sh*tty modem, that's why .10 is AFU.
    Coaster #10 was Montana Rusa in Mexico City, 125 feet high and the
    inspiration for Colossus at Magic Mountain. I mentioned that this
    coaster was somewhat better than Colossus overall.
    
    						-shut up john
    
    						-boom-
1854.15UPWARD::HEISERPhoenix hits 125�, Film @ 11 meltsFri Jun 29 1990 21:518
    A woman was killed on Colossus before they started using the seat
    belts.  The force just pulled her out so they installed the belts.
    
    I go to Mexico once a year so I may try the Montana Rusa.  I was in
    Mexico City 2 years ago, but only took time to visit the Aztec
    pyramids.
    
    Mike