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1851.1 | Compressors are great if you know how to use em | ICS::BUCKLEY | Paradise in the sand | Mon Jun 04 1990 16:26 | 18 |
| A compressor works well on the vocals because it limits the dynamic
range of the vocals being processed, which helps bring them "up and
over" the rhythm section!
A compressor will not eliminated feedback by nature! A compressor
boosts low level signals and puts a "ceiling" on high-level
transients...if feedback starts as a low-level hum (as it usually
does), the compressor will boost it to the threshold level!!! This is
where a Compressor/noise gate works well...so that absence of signal is
gated, and not compressed (boosted).
While a proper compression ratio will smooth out the vocals pops (P's),
a poorly set compressor will actually cause pops, siblance, and
"breathing" (the noise of heavy, poorly-set compression). A compressor
can be a VERY effective addition in a PA, but you really have to know
the in's & out's of one to have it be benifitial to you.
B.
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1851.2 | Awesome Sound! | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI | This time forever! | Tue Jun 05 1990 11:40 | 37 |
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Compressors are awesome!
My experience using compressors on the Vocals has been very
successful. The type I use is a DBX and I've found the their best
kind is the "threshold" vs the "linear" type compressor. I believe
that the signal level runs through untouched until the "threshold"
level is reached, at which point the signal is attentuated according
to the compression ratio. The ratio range on my compressor is between
1:1 and 2:1 and I typically use between 1.2:1 and 1.4:1 -
I've had problems with feedback while using the "linear" type
compressors (your typical stomp box kind); however the "threshold" kind
has given me no such problems. This definitely has to do with the
threshold mode of operation because the linear ones start to compress
too soon; you turn the volume up to compensate and when the vocals stop,
the gain comes back up too high and you get feedback. Now you could
turn the compression ratio down some, but it seems you end up turning
it down to nothing as you juggle the settings. Then you say "Why
bother?"
Using a threshold compressor on the vocals will give you a very
nice "produced" sound that is much more "listenable" than the blasting
of amplified vocals you get without one. Also, as WJB mentioned
earlier, the average of the vocal dynamics can sit above the other
instruments - without the feedback you'd likely get by simply crankin
it up. It's a one of those audio illusions - it *seems* louder only
because it's louder for most of the time, instead of varying all over
the place in dynamic range.
And this is a definite trick that every soundman should have
in their skill set. Most of today's studio sound is heavily compressed
and most people identify with that sound as what sounds "right to
them" or even "pleasant". Personally, I couldnt imagine even attempting
to do vocal sound reinforcement without my trusty DBX 119 or 122!
Joe
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1851.3 | | PELKEY::PELKEY | Professional Aumbre | Tue Jun 05 1990 13:34 | 16 |
| You survive without one, till you buy one, then you wonder how you ever
made it without one.
I'll also renforce Bucks words of wisdom..
In the hands of a skilled soundman who knows how to use it,,, it's
a wonderful tool..
In the hands of an unskilled soundman, who don't know how to use it,
it's certain death, but the bruite side is, they're fast to learn on
cuz they're unforgiving creatures. You hear the mistake right away,
and baptizim by fire is usually a two or three weekend process.
Once you get the hang of it, you'll never-ever do with out.
the better the compressor, the more you can do with it.
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1851.4 | Let's Name Some Names? | FDCV07::DADDIECO | That's Just The Way It Is ..... | Tue Jun 05 1990 18:16 | 9 |
| re: .3 "the better the compressor....."
What's a better compressor - - I was looking at a stereo compressor
made by Symetrix - was planning to use one side for the mains and one
for the monitors.
Is there a more widely used compressor? Maybe the ones made by dbx?
d.
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1851.5 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | Paradise in the sand | Wed Jun 06 1990 09:44 | 6 |
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I'd take a look at the stereo DBX unit...the one that ahs the built in
noise gate!!! This is ESP. helpful if you are compressing monitors!!!
B.
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1851.6 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | Nice computers don't go down | Wed Jun 06 1990 16:29 | 3 |
| I have a symetrix 525 and it's very very good!
dbii
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