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1842.1 | Mp1 - Yum-yum-yum... | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Tue May 29 1990 17:25 | 23 |
| This is good deal. Not only do you get the 128 presets of the ADA, via MIDI,
but the crunch of an overdriven Marshall power section. Good duty.
I tried a similar approach. The only trouble I had was that I had a rack,
two 4x12's and two Marshall heads (I like that stereo stuff ya know). I
replaced the Marshalls with a SP1000 125 wpc and I'm really pleased with it.
I get that same overdriven power section sound without the bulk. Now I have a
three space rack and two 2x12's. I sold one Marshall and still have
the other (a 2205) as a backup...So... The thing that got me in
your note is that you called this an "Ultra-Cheap" alternative. I bought my
stereo power amp for about the same as what a Marshall 50watter has, and the
power amp is stereo, and way-louder.
BTW - I'd CRANK the Marshall volumes to ten and regulate with the ADA...
The ADA has a HOT signal and will drive that powerstage INSANE !
Talk about insane gain eh ? Is the ADA's distortion ungodly or what ?!?!?!?
Yeeeeeooooow ! It's like kickin' a wounded kitty...Errr cat. (Sorry John ;)
Now, wanna really blow your mind ? Go get another Marshall half-stack...
Stereo is even more insane !
My only complaint about the MP1 is it IS NOT a vintage sounding rig.
It's too pretty sounding for that. ;)
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1842.2 | Oh and... | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Tue May 29 1990 17:26 | 2 |
| Send me some of your home-brew presets...thats half the fun.
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1842.3 | from a Marshall addict | TAGART::SOMERVILLE | Flonk your Dwoyl! | Wed May 30 1990 05:28 | 37 |
| A couple of years ago I messed about with my JCM 800 100w LEAD TOP
in this way.
Basically I was working out the circuit diagram of the preamp by
eyeballing the board. I managed this successfully and together with
this and advice from a friend, fitted effects send/return sockets.
There is a brown link wire which you just remove and one end is send
and the other return. The sockets have to make the loop up again
when nothing is plugged in.
This set up is of limited use with modern effects loops as the output
from the Marshall preamp is so high and the effects units outputs
are usually too low to drive the power stage directly.
It is possible that provision of line attenuators at the send and
return together with a small very low noise preamp at the return
could correct this but I don't think it would sound very good.
However back to the point. Recently I purchased a JHS Rockbox,
the Japanese copy of the Tom Scholtz Rockman.
I got this for two thirds of the normal price because the guys
at the shop said that this was too noisy through an amp front end.
However I thought, how about directly throught the amp power stage
controlled by the master volume only.
It worked great! Definitely good enough to gig with.
I think a switching method to reconnect to the preamp input
and reconnect the preamp to the main amp would be a good addition
though.
Hope this is the kind of input you were looking for.
Robin_S.
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1842.4 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | She's breakin hearts in Heaven... | Wed May 30 1990 11:42 | 5 |
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RE: .0
BLASPHEMY!
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1842.5 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Wed May 30 1990 11:53 | 8 |
| Hum-bug.
What this dude gets is a MIDI front end to his marshall and a preamp
that doesn't sputter, gate, buzz, hum...
;)
jc (Who thinks twin marshall heads and the ADA in stereo would be BALLZY!)
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1842.6 | exit | CASPRO::KALINOWSKI | | Wed May 30 1990 12:19 | 34 |
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It may be Blaspheme but it sounds FANTASTIC...
Coop you were so right.....The distortion is enough to kill ......
I love Thew sounds I can get from the ADA. I was able to duplicate My
old Head/Tube screamer combination in about 5 minutes. Well Almost.....It
wasn't 1/10th as noisy as the old setup. Last Night I found a great
setting for ....well whatever you want to use it for.... I'll jot it down
and put it in the ADA note tomorrow.
RE: .3
As far as the Marshall preamp goes....when I plug in the back of the
head I bypass the preamp section all together. However if I plug in the
front the preamp section is fully functional and still sounds just like
the old Marshall. I assume this is the switch type mechanism you were
refering to. If you are plugged into both front and back..(like I
really would be anyway ;^) ..) the head defaults to the back input and
the front is shut down.
I know the problem you are talking about with the loss of signal
after the post master effects loop. My friend had a head he had modified
with a loop and at greater volumes he loses gain terribily .
You've gotta see what he had done. He had a friend of his (a mere
junior at U. Lowell studying E.E.) add an extra gain stage between the
the effects loop and the power section. This new stage came complete
with a 12AX7 preamp tube and it's own master volume. That amp Kicks
ass !!!!! I have never heard a ballsier dry head sound. (One which I
was quickly able to duplicate with the ADA....;^)....)
I'll stick that setting in when I find it....
Brian
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1842.7 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Wed May 30 1990 12:33 | 13 |
| Glad to hear your happy with it.
IMHO, the one draw back of the ADA is when you want squeeky clean (with me
thats almost NEVER - Blasphemy! ;), the ADA is *SO* damn compressed there is
no dynamics left to it.
My work around for this is a preset that I posted. It uses the clean tube
stage and the compression is set ALMOST off. That with the guitar volume
down a little works out really well. Dynamic and clean.
But bag that Mr. BooBoo, clean is for weenies who yell "your too loud!" ;)
jc
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