Conference napalm::guitar

    The 16th note bass pedal work in Bach's Pasacaglia & Fugue in C Minor!

    re: "Funeral For A Friend segue Love Lies Bleeding"...
    
    Wasn't that Dee Murray?
    
    I never met a bass line that "changed my life", but some do stand out a
    bit. The above is one. I played in a band that used to "The Story In
    Your Eyes" by The Moody Blues, a truly painfull experience for the
    left hand, and then segue to LLB. I always enjoyed it...
    
    Lately, I've been working thru some pieces of John Pattitucci of
    Corea's Elektrik Band, paying particular attention to "King Cockroach".
    It's an amazing piece, lotsa subtle syncopation. I find it real
    difficult to count (at 250 BPM *anything* is hard to count!), so a
    lot of the piece has to fly on "feel" and memorization alone...
    
    Edd

    One of my favorite players is John Entwistle of the Who.
    
    I always liked the bass solo in "My Generation." Pretty
    happening for the time.
    
    In "The Real Me" and the whole "Quadrophenia" in general
    there is some great playing. There's one part in "The Real
    Me" where there's no guitar-just Moon and the Ox whaling
    away. I think it's the most inspired 30 seconds of their
    careers. Now that was a rhtyhm section!
    
    -Tom

    "Something" - Paul McCartney working for George Harrison.  An
    		  example of how to play "lead bass".

    
    
    	"A Day In The Life" - Paul McCartney. Probably the first song that 
    			      made me want to play the bass.
    
    	"Carry On Wayward Son" - Love that ultra-clean, crisp bass tone. 
    				 (Ok, so it's not the bass "line" that I 
    				  liked so much, so sue me :-))
    
    	"Long Distance Runaround" - The obligatory Yes tune. 
    
    	
    	"Doctor My Eyes"	- Lee Sklar for Jackson Browne. Example of 
    				  bass line thats solidly "in the Groove".
    				  As a matter of fact, Lee Sklar has always
    				  been one of my faves. 
    
    	"Overture"		- From Rush's 2112. Really just a collage of
    				  the other songs, but really hot bass.
    
    -Tom
    

    	Donna Lee - Jaco......

    re: "A Day In The Life"....
    
    Oh my, I guess there was a bass line that "changed my life" and ADItL
    was it!! Until Tom entered that, I'd forgotten all about that hot
    summer night back in '68 when I borrowed a no_name violin shaped bass
    from some guy I went to school with. The beast had action you could
    park a car under, but no matter, a friend and I sat down for hours in
    his living room play that song. I still remember how proud of ourselves
    we were when I finally figured out the descending line between
    "...today, oh boy" and "About a lucky man...".
    
    Tom, thanks for the memory...
    
    Edd

    McCartney on the Beatles "Penny Lane"...

    Wow, some really good ones have been mentioned so far:
    
    "Ramble On" and "The Lemon Song" - Yep, these are the two Zep
    basslines that immediately come to mind.  Ramble in particular
    is sublime.
    
    "The Real Me" - Entwistle always has something interesting to say;
    this may be his finest moment.  
    
    "Donna Lee" - The first tune I ever heard Jaco do; a real jaw-dropper.
    
    But when I think of bass lines that changed my life, I think of the
    first time I really noticed "hey, there are some hip things going on
    down under".  That was Ronnie Lane's rollicking bass romp on the Faces'
    "Stay With Me".  An eye-opener.
    
    /rick

    I'm a sucker for any bass player who can hit the groove playing that
    funky thumb-popping stuff.
    
    "Ice Cakes" - Andy West with the Dregs, although the bass is mixed
    	way too low, this is my opinion of PERFECT funk bass, particularly
    	the rising part in the break (hard to describe)
    
    Bass Solos that changed my attitude about bass solos:
    
    *ANY Jerry Peek solo on Steve Morse's "The Introduction".  Where the
    hell did Morse find this guy and where did he go?  Although he's only
    got really about 3 album credits I know of, I think this guy is my
    vote for the "Best Player on the planet".
    
    The solo's on "Cruise Missile" and on "Huron River Blues" are
    definitely my all-time favorite bass solos (and I normally hold
    nothing but disdain for bass solos)
    
    Almost anything by Stu Hamm - his live work with Joe Satriani, and
    the album "Radio Free  Albemuth" (or something like that).
    
    "NV53345" by Billy Sheehan.  It's a great solo, but frankly it's
    one of the only things that he's done that really standout to me
    for anything other than sheer chops.

    ones that always got to me
    
    the bass line to Van Morrison's "Into the Mystic" .. not hard, just
    pretty, a nice groove
    
    One lick the guy does in "Piece of My Heart" by Janis Joplin always
    blew me away
    
    Phil Lesh, THe Other One

    "Another man's woman" -that fat guy in the Atlanta Rhythm Section
    "New Shoes" -The Busboys   =HOT!!!
    "Broken Hearts" -Living Color
    The Intro on "Gratitude" -Live Earth Wind and Fire
    "Thrill of the Kill" -Fee Waybill's "read my lips" lp
    "Fool for the City" -Foghat Live
    "Ooh Eee Diddley Bop" -Peter Wolf's first solo lp (maybe Doug Wimbish?)                                            
    

    -Bill    =BvP

    Does anyone remember Mel Schacher of Grand Funk?  Seems he had some
    pretty prominent/dominent bass lines on some of their tracks.
    
    A few that come to mind are...
    
    "I'm Your Captain" (aka: Closer to Home)
    "Get it Together"
    "Inside Lookin' Out"
    "Footstompin' Music"
    
    I know there were more, but...
    
    Mike

    Swing Time  by, Weather Report  
    
    Everything on the "8:30" album by Weather Report
    
    I'm So Glad  by, Cream (talk about "lead bass"? Try this one on for size!)
    
    Bach's Organ Fugue in G minor (the little)                         
                                                                         
                  
    All this and more got me thinking that BASS wasn't just for thumping
    anymore. Bass is only boring when it's played that way. Be progressive,
    bend the rules and have fun with it!
    
    Fred (who_doesn't_like_a_boring_bassline)   

    	My vote for the one in the groove, don't remember his name
    but he played with Van Morrisons "Moon Dance". Talk about onein
    the groove. But as previously mentioned, my starting first Rock
    'n'Roll band. Mel Schacher was one of my guiding/driving forces.
    
    My2cents.
    
    Steve...
    

My Picks:

Electric Bass

Jack Bruce -- with Cream -- "Crossroads"
Jim Fielder -- with Blood, Sweat and Tears -- "God Bless the Child"
Francis Rocco Prestia -- with Tower of Power -- "What is Hip?"
Randy Tico -- with Flora Purim -- "Open Your Eyes"
Jaco Pastorius -- (well, almost everything he ever did...)
               -- with Weather Report -- "Havona"    (and many, many others)
               -- with Joni Mitchell -- "Hejira"     (and many, many others)
Anthony Jackson -- with Donald Fagen -- "Ruby"
Baghiti Khumalo -- with Paul Simon -- "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes"
Marcus Miller -- with David Sanborn -- just about everything
              -- with Miles Davis -- "Tutu"
Victor Bailey -- with Weather Report -- the whole "Sportin' Life" album

Acoustic Bass

Ray Brown -- anything with Oscar Peterson
Eddie Gomez -- with Bill Evans -- anything from "The Bill Evans Album"
Stanley Clarke -- with Chick Corea -- "Spain"

I'm sure there are more, but the lunch hour is fast disappearing!

Jack_(bass_is_my_life)

    How about the bass line for Red Barchetta by Rush...Or hell, anything
    by Geddy.
    
    jc

    re .17
    
    yea, that kinda sizes up my vote...
    i second the motion..
    
    Sp(Bass_players_get_deeper)

    
    "Everybody's go something to hide except for me and my monkey" -Beatles
    "Roundabout" -Yes
    "Lament" - King Crimson
    
    jay who_used_to_play_bass

    
    Twenty years of wearing out records and tapes....
    
    'Spirit of Radio': GL w/Rush
    
    'Dirty Linen', Dave Pegg w/Fairport Convention
    
    'Five G', 'Travels w/Myself', 'Sliding Floor' and a bunch of others...
     J. Berlin w/Bruford
    
    'Crossroads': J. Berlin Band (the bass takes both of Clapton's solos
    note-for-note....I mainly just sit back and laugh at this)
    
    Third Mvmt from J.S. Bach's Brandenburg #3....the lower string lines.
    Killer.
    
    'Peaches En Regalia': Shuggie Otis w/Zappa
    
    'Havona', 'Teen Town', 'Palladium', 'Remark You Made' Jaco w/WP
    (the last tune is probably his most beautiful ensemble playing ever)
    
    'Schizoid Man' (middle section): G. Lake w/Crimson
                                       
    All of "Lizard": King Crimson
    
    'Take a Pebble' (middle section), Karn Evil 9 (first section): Lake
    w/ELP
    
    'Heart of the Sunrise', 'Yours is No...', 'Close to the Edge': Squire
    w/Yes
    
    'Ice Cakes', 'Night Meets Light', 'Day 444', 'Bloodsucking Leeches'
    Andy West w/Dregs
    
    'Battle of Epping Forest': Rutherford w/Genesis
    
    'Mona Lisa': Charnett Moffett
    
    'Country Comforts': Dee Murray w/EJ
    
    ...Peter
    
    
      

    Most anything Paul McCartney did.
    
    re.15 yo bro 'tis bout time you get in this notes file...
    
    rj

    
    Amazing how often Paul McCartney's come up. My first reaction when I
    saw the note title was 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds' especially the
    chorus. But then I thought about Lovely Rita and then again When I'm
    64. All this coupled with A Day in the Life (mentioned earlier) make me
    wonder whether you just may as well say the whole of Sgt Pepper!
    
    Richard
    Basingstoke, UK

                Definitely Foghat  !   `Fool for the City' is one
                (which I saw  mentioned), `Road Fever' is another
                FUN tune you can  REALLY get into and `Sweet Home
                Chicago' is another.
                
                Next would have to be  alot  of the older (60's -
                early 70's) tunes.  Especially some  of  the bass
                lines  done  in  Robin  Trower's  group.     Some
                challenging,  some  simple,  but  fun to play and
                practice.
                
                Matt :^)

    
    
    	"Hunting Girl"	- John Glascock, from Jethro Tull's 
    			  "Songs From The Wood". 

    For me it was:  I'm freaking out - Dixie Dregs (Andy West on bass)
            
               and  The Fish - Chris Squire
    
    
    John

Sheeesh, almost forgot another awesome bassist that (IMHO) is 
incredible and often overlooked (since no one has said anything
about him here so far).  Not only can he play bass very well,
but his song writing is very strong too.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Steve Harris of Iron Maiden.

Check out his work on The Trooper, and any cut off of the "Number Of
The Beast" album.  Whoa.

                                                  
    Whilst he's good in the studio, Harris is a bit sloppy live.
                                                  
    On the Maiden England video you can here the overdubs he's done
    to cover up some of his mistakes.              
                                                  
    He's got really fast right hand fingers though!

    
    The bass work on early yes albums was incredible, especially 
    "Starship Trooper", and "Seen all Good People".
    
    Jack Cassidy (of Jefferson Airplane fame) on Hot Tuna's 
    "The Water Song" 
    
    Phil Lesh of the Grateful dead redfined the role Bass players play
    in country/folk/rock bands as examplified on tunes like "Brown-Eyed
    Women", Truckin', and countless others. 
    
    The bass playing on the J Geils' harp tune "Wamble Jamble"
    
    Lonnie Mack's bass lines on the Door's "Morrison's Hotel"
    
    The late Tommy Caldwell of Marshall Tucker on all of their early
    stuff. After he died, they replaced him with a new bass player and
    was never able to attain the same energy. 
    
    Anyone into Blue-grass/folk, might enjoy listening to a guy named
    John Kahn, who backs up Jerry Garcia, played on the "old and in the
    way" album, and does lot's of session work on the west coast.
    
    I've only scratched the surface.
    
    Bass playing must be a lonely field. People always remember the lead
    singers, and lead guitarists in their favorite bands, but the bass
    players contributions are often overlooked.
    
    Mark Jacques (soon to be part-time bass player)
    
    

I don't really play bass and I wouldn't exactly say that any bass parts have 
"changed my life" but one of my favorite bass players to listen to is Tony 
Levin.  Check out King Crimson's Discipline album for some of his work.

Greg

    The only person's bass playing that I've 'really' enjoyed listening
    to is Bill Wyman's.  Even if I wasn't a big Stones fan, he'd get
    my vote.
    
    Alan

	Bass solo before what is it? Maybe N.I.B. on the first Black
	Sabbath album.


	"Teen Town" - Jaco Pastorius (Weather Report - Heavy Weather)
	"Gates of Delerium" - Chris Squire (Yes - Relayer)

	"Lemon Song" ranks high on my list of "What does electric bass
		playing mean" references along with the tail end of
		"The Ocean"


	The are a lot of Tina Weymouth bass parts esp. on Remain in Light.

	Then there's (was it Dennis Dunaway?) the bass line in Alice
	Cooper's "School's Out"

	And Quadrophenia.

"Standing in the Shadows of Love" -- The Four Tops (probably James Jamerson).

                               
    Addicted to that Rush   Billy Sheehman   Mr Big                
    Screaming Blues-o-Mania Billy Sheehman   Solo with Paul Gilbert
    All of them!!           Mark King        Level 42          
                                                               
    These songs really opened my eyes to the fact that the bass can
    play some really great things without having to just blod along
    and be a 'secondary' instrument.
                                                                    
    -Tony

    I wouldn't consider this a "change your life" bass-line but I'm
    kinda surprised nobody has mentioned "Badge" by Cream. I thought
    it was "standard equipment" in the repertoire for bassists in the
    60's and 70's. 
    
    Wait, that's over 20 years ago! You young'uns have heard of Cream,
    right???
    
    :^)
    
    Edd

The bass solo from the live version of Free's "Mr Big" - this was the
song which first made me realise that bass didn't have to sit in the
background all of the time.

Well I was a 14-year old struggling with the two chords to "Allright Now"
at the time :-)

Derek

Another of the "not really life changing, but interesting" ones...

Another monster bass player that I haven't seen mentioned is Flea from the 
Red Hot Chili Peppers.  While I don't really like most of their music, the
guy has an incredible groove.  The bass line in their cover of Stevie Wonders
"Higher Ground" cooks.

I also believe he did the bass work in Young MC's "Bust a Move".  This is
one of very few rap songs that I like, primarily due to that extremely cool
bass line.

Greg

    re: .30
    
    Surprised it took so long for someone to mention Bill Wyman.  I
    was just thinking about that last night... you beat me to it.  I
    always loved "Miss You" and "Live With Me" especially.  I'm sure
    there are dozens more.
    
    							Marc

	First off, hey Edd, why was that Cream song named "Badge" ???

	Ok, I'm not good at remembering what songs as opposed to
	what players but I'll give it a shot.

	Jaco	      well, shoot, obviously "Birdland" from "Heavy
		      Weather"  (was it his or Pat Metheny's first
		      solo album (a trio) that was so great?)  And
		      why has there been no mention of his death
	              last year in this conference?

	Abe Laboriel  Esp. with Rit

	Jeff Berlin   virtually everything, esp. with Bruford, and
		      esp. "Joe Frazier"!!  What a great player!!

	Louis Johnson "Thunder Thumbs" himself - Get the Funk outta
		      my Face!!  A few on "Off the Wall" by Michael
		      Jackson.

	Nils Henning Orsted Pederson - What he does on upright with
		      Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson is perfect.  None
		      that fret noise and oh so musical!!!

	Paul 	      Everything he did is so singable, so melodic

	Stanley Clarke School Days!!!

	Anthony Jackson with Pat Martino, Al DiMeola, etc...
	

    
>	Jaco	      why has there been no mention of his death
>	              last year in this conference?
    
    Cause he died two or three years ago, not last year.
    
    "Badge" was named because (so the story goes) Ringo, George and Eric
    were all high while writing it, and had scribbled the word *bridge* on
    the sheet of paper illegibly enough that later it looked like *badge*.
    You figger it....how about "NSU" for an odd title?
    
    BTW, "Badge" was the first song I taught myself on bass.
    
    							Brian

    re .38
    
    Since I didn't see a smiley face, I'll assume the question about Badge
    was for real and not an inside joke.
    
    According to an interview I heard with Clapton around a year ago:
    
    George Harrison was in the studio to contribute rhythmn guitar and for
    general moral support.  The song had no title, but Eric had written out
    the changes.  Where the lead break comes in, Eric had scribbled
    "bridge", except George couldn't read it and said something to the
    effect "hey Eric, what's this say, badge?".  They all had a good laugh
    and decided to use it as a title.
    
    Btw, if you're looking for some deep meaning behind the lyrics, don't;
    there isn't any.
    
    /rick
    

        " A little Fat Back Bass "
    
    
       The Bass Player that I really got into as a kid was, who ever
    played bass for James Brown, the lines were simple, but seemed
    to work nicely with the drums and guitar.
    
    James Jamerson was a definite inspiration to me, all the early Motown
    stuff, the bass was in the back but it was there.
    
    Larry Graham, (SLY and The Family Stone) first person I ever saw
    slap a bass, or use a fuzz box on a bass.
    
    Willie Weeks - was featured on the Donny Hathaway Live album.
    
    Stanley Clarke - School Days ( Bass Players National Anthem), 
                    I Wanna Play For You
                    Rocks Pebbles and Stones
                    Future Shock
                    Hide Away
                    The Stanley Clarke Band ( My Favorite)
                    If This Bass Could Talk
    
    Jeff Berlin -  Crossroads
    
    Jaco Pastorious - Birdland, Donna Lee, anything he did.
    
    Marcus Miller - Anything with David Sanborn, Luther Vandross,
                    And Watanabee (sp)
    
    Louis Johnson - Thunder Thumbs himself, more fun to watch live.
    
    Mel Schekemer (sp) The Bass player for Grand Funk, first rock player
                    I really checked out in the late 60's, he was
                    happening.  (What ever happened to him.)
    
    The bass player for Chicago did some nice lines in their early days.
    
    Bernard Edwards - (Chic) Funk with a capitol F.
    
    Verdeen White ( Earth Wind & Fire) Energy plus live.
    
    And probably the biggest influence Bootsy Collins,
    Parliament Funkadelics, some of IMO the most memorable bass lines.
                           Mothership Connection
                           Tear the Roof of The Sucker
                           Knee Deep
                           One Nation Under A Groove
                           Aqua Boogie
                           
    
                                                              Howard
    
    

    See! I knew there was a bunch of "Badge"-ees out there!
    
    Re: Birdland
    
    Who knows more than the 7 note riff?? The Manhattan Transfer do a great
    vocal cover of the tune (with great bass work) on their "Extensions"
    album....
    
    OK, fess up, how many of you stumbled upon the signature bass riff in
    Fleetwood Mac's "Chains"???
    
    Edd

    Wow I'm really impressed with the bass boys of this topic. yuze guys 
    lissen good. Seems like when you ask a 6 stringer (for the most part
    -imho) the typical picks would include dudes that really stand out,
    like Van Halen, Hendrix, etc. ad nauseum; people that you don't have to 
    listen closely to hear/know what they're playin. They're reaching out of 
    the speakers to grab you. From the picks I seen here James Jamerson,
    Louis Johnson, Verdeen White, et al (many al), like I said, I'm
    impressed. (OK so big deal -sakman's impressed- who 'n hell is he
    anyway?)
    
    My two cents other than the obvious (like Jaco and Stanley) or not
    previously mentioned:
    
    Barry Goodreau (?) - Every note of every tune off the first Boston Album
    
    Dude's last name is Armstrong - Jean Luc Ponte
    
    dude who plays in Little Feat - really tight with uneven rythms.
    
    Bass player for the Classics house band - watch him become a monster!
    
    
    
    "sakman"
    

    re .42
    
    My band (Alternate Routes) used to do Birdland, but it's out of the
    repertoire at the moment (since we lost our kybds).  It's a lot of fun.
    Check out Victor Bailey next time he's in town; he does a killer solo
    version, playing all the parts simultaneously.
    
    re others
    
    I'm kind of surprised to see multiple mentions of Jeff Berlin's
    "Crossroads" in here.  Hey, I generally dig Jeff a lot, but playing
    Clapton licks note-for-note, well....
    I thought he did it as a joke.  Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
    
    /rick

    
    re .43...I believe Ralphe Armstrong is the guy who playted with
    Ponty....also did some work with a later edition of the Mahavishnu
    Orchestra....
    
    re last and 'Crossroads'....I think I mentioned it because of all the 'best
    guitar solo ever' remarks that have been bandied about EC's playing
    on this tune. I thought it was great that a bassist went into the
    traditional guitar idiom, took out a great solo, and played it note
    for note on the bass as if to say 'don't limit your thinking--it can
    be done on a four-string, too'. (Either that or it was a self-serving 
    tribute to the guy's ability on the bass....which was the reason I said I
    'mainly sit back and laugh at this') In any event, although it's
    copycat playing, I think you'll agree it's pretty monstrous technique 
    at the same time, and I give the guy his due for it. I'd pick his
    work on 'What I Know Now' as his playing at some of its classiest, IMO. 
    
    For what it's worth on the Motown stuff, the bass work from 'Tears
    of a Clown' and 'I Was Made to Love Her' are classic.
    
    Peter
    
    
    Peter
    
    

    What about Stu Hamm and the bass solo from the Joe Satriani concert
    (just a couple of weeks ago in Atlanta)?  Lucky I got the inside scoop
    on the concert from all you northern folks!
    
    
    Don't know the bass player's name, but whoever it was does an
    incredible solo on the John Luc Ponty song 'Egocentric Molecules' from
    the album 'Cosmic Messenger'.
    
    
    Bruce Mc

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BobW

�as opposed to Toccata and Fugue in D minor BWV 538 (dorian)

    RE:  "Badge"
    
    One of my FAVORITE Clapton tunes too!  I'm a guitar player and have
    been playing that song since 1968....when the bridge comes in (the "D"
    part) and that SWEET lead lays in over the last lines of the vocals, I
    just HAVE to pick up a guitar.  That song change my taste in music....
    
    Steve D.

    There's an excellant anthology out (probably unavailable now) called
    simply "The Bass". It's a 3 record set covering the development of
    the bass as both part of the jazz rhythm section and as a lead
    instrument in it's own right. Both fingered and bowed styles are
    represented.
    
    Does anyone else have a copy? (I know one bassist in here does...)
    
    Highly recommended listening.
    
    Edd

    Here's two more bass lines that are worth a listen.
    
    Most of us have heard the Door's tune "Land Ho". Great bass intro
    line which continues throughout the tune. Funny that the Doors
    never had a full-time bass player (to the best of my knowledge).
    I know that Lonnie Mack played the bass in the tune "Morrison's
    Hotel" off the same album, so my guess is he played bass on "Land
    Ho" as well. Lately I see Lonnie with a 6-string Flying V. Does he
    still play bass ?
    
    Some awesome bass work from a differant gendre, is on the Pointer
    Sister's tune "Salt Peanuts". I have this cut on a greatest hit's
    album at home. I'm not sure what album the tune originated on. The
    bass playing sounds like an upright, but could just be a fretless.
    It's is essentially walking bass accompanyment for piano chord
    comping, but is so fast and furious, I would call it more like
    "running bass".
    
    No bass line, or guitar line for that matter, "Changed my life",
    but many have definately changed my way of thinking.
    
    Mark
    

    Sitting here thinking of some of the oldies, does anyone remember the
    song by Sugerloaf "Green Eyed Lady"?  Seems I recall some really
    nice basswork in that tune.
    
    Mike

    Re: .51
    
    Lonnie only played bass on "Roadhouse", the rest of that LP and many
    other Doors LPs used Doug Lubahn, who was in the bands Clear Light and
    Dreams.  
    
    Lonnie has always been a guitar man, I never have heard exactly how he
    ended up playing on that Doors cut.  Anyway, it *is* funky, though I'd
    also say it's a good example of a guitar player handling the bass line.
    
    I think there is a Lonnie Mack note in here someplace....
    
    							Brian

    
    Gee, I haven't bothered to mention a line that changed my life yet.
    
    Well, I got psyched to play bass from hearing Jack Bruce, but the one
    bassist who totally turned my head around was Ashley Hutchings, on an
    album by Steeleye Span called "Please to See the King".  A mixture of
    Rick Danko, Bach and traditional folk music.  Plus, he was working
    without a drummer, which gave him considerable rhythmic freedom.
    
    Since then everything that I can find with Ashley on it, I buy
    immediately.  He was the founding bassist of Fairport Convention, whom
    he left to found Steeleye Span (two feats which should guarantee him a
    spot in both rock and folk history) and then left Steeleye to start up
    the Albion Band which is apparently still in existence.  The Albions
    are the only folk band I know of who have covered John Coltrane.  For
    some reason (fear of flying?) he never comes to the US.  Guess I will
    have to book a ticket to the UK sometime soon if I want to see him
    live.
    
    							Brian

    re .49
    
    I own a copy "the Bass"; was I the one you were referring to?
    
    Something I know I've mentioned in notes somewhere before, but
    worth repeating:
    
    Dave Holland has at least two albums out of unaccompanied solo
    bass; the first one is titled "Emerald Tears".  Probably not
    everyone's cup of tea, but Dave is a real master of the instrument.
    His playing is very musical, often outside, and for sheer technique
    I know of no upright player (Niels included) who can best him.
    
    /rick

    I don't remember the names of all of the songs but these are the 
    guys and others I can't remember the names of who I spent most of my
    young life constantly playing to:
    
    Ray Brown		Stanley Clark
    Jaco Pastorius	Jack Bruce
    Tim Bogart		Mars Cowling
    John Paul Jones	John Entwistle
    Geddy Lee		Will Lee
    Wilber Bascome	Anthony Jackson
    Louis Johnson	Francis Rocco Prestia
    Jack Cassidy	Larry Graham
    Chris Squire	Phil Lesh
    Bootsy Collins	Verndeen White
    Andy West		Sting
    Stu Ham		
    H.U.B. base player
    Kansas Base player
    Genisis "     "
    Red Hot Chili Pepers base player
    Living Color Base palyer
    
    Well dudes I know I am leaving out some more that Have influenced me
    But My mind has drawn a blank thinking of all of those Great Base
    lines I have tried to play.

    
    
    A few more...
    
    Jon Camp - Renaissance 
    Paul Simonon - The Clash 
    
    I was a big-time Clash fan in the late 70's. I wore out a coupla
    copies of London Calling, learning all the tracks. I appreciate
    the playing of Jon Camp more now than then. I considered Renaissance
    too "art-rock" back then. I guess I have learned a few things since
    then! :-)
    
    
    BTW, I think the guy who played (plays?) with Van Morrison is 
    Richard Davis. He also played on the track " The Angel" on 
    Springsteen's "Greetings From Asbury Park". 

    re: .55
    
    The Kansas bass player was (I believe) Dave Hope, and his playing
    and lines were definitely up to the high standards that band set.
    I loved his playing in "Magnum Opus".
    
    In a lot of ways, he reminded me of Chris Squire, not so much in
    sound and style, but in "how" he used the bass.  Kansas, Yes and
    the Dregs (and probably a few more) had at least one thing in common
    which was to go beyond the traditional 4-piece-type roles of 
    each instrument, and write something more akin to "ensemble" playing.
    
    In this style, the bass often did a lot more than support the rhythm
    or melody (if any).  Now lots of players do that occasionally, but
    those bands did it as an intrinsic part of their style.
    
    
    re: .56
    
    I'm glad to see Jon Camp of Renaissance mentioned.  I loved his 
    tight Rick sound and his playing.
    
    	db

    ?? Papa's Got a Brand New Bag" - James Brown - something about that
    bass riff & the way it was recorded, even if you hear it on a cheap
    speakers - it always cuts through.
    ... The Byrd's version of Mr. Tamourine Man - just few notes and that
    big slide part. I think that was one of the first riffs I played
    when I got my first real bass.
     ##$#$21st Century Schiziod Man - King Crimson - ...!!!
    .... something by Black Sabbath, it was a bass duo I think, I forget the
    title, didn't change my life, but it stopped me for a few minutes...
     School Girl by 10 Years After ... 

                Stuart Hamm - Black Ice
                            - I Want To Know
                
                This guy is  hot  !    The  album is instrumental
                only, but there's some good artistic music on it.  
                
                Matt

Check out some of his work on Vais' new album.  He *is* hot.

jc

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|Check out some of his work on Vais' new album.  He *is* hot.
                
                Thanks Coop.   I knew he played in a couple other
                groups, but wasn't sure which ones.  
                
                Matt 

    Well, I have finally read thru all 61 replies and was surprise
    that nobody mentioned Chuck Rainey. He did all the Aretha Franklyn
    stuff in the late sixties and seventies. He had a famous lick that
    Alphonso Johnson of Weather Report did a song based on it (no pun
    intended). He was one of the hotest studio musicians along with
    Bernard Purdie on drums, that combo backed up many artist on many
    hit song. And back then I tried to play along with everything he did.
    
    Then came Larry Graham of Sly and F.S. the Everyday People album. I
    wonder how many folk out there don't know that Larry Mr Funk Graham is the
    originator of the ever so popular 'slapping and popping' technique.
    
    Well just about all Jaco stuff, Marcus Miller and the many other
    player already mentioned.
    Actually the song were too many mention so I just mention the players
    but here are a few:- I want you back- the Jackson five
    			 I was made to love her - Stevie Wonder
    			 Something - Beatles
    			 Papa's got a brand new bag - James Brown
    
    Well, this note made me think about the good ole days, now I 
    know I really over the hill - 40 is but a year away......hmmmm.
    
    Errol	
    

    
    according to my memory, McCartney on the Rain/Paperback Writer single
    got a lot of folks to start payin attention to the bass. Not that
    there wasn't good stuff going on before, but both those songs, and
    particularly PW feature strong bass.
    
    After that many, many fine bassist's started standing out.
    
    However, before that, Ray Brown and Charles Mingus used to captivate
    me a whole lot.
    
    	bob
    

    The bass line on Wilson Pickett's _Engine No. 9_.  It was a Gamble/Huff
    production, dunno who the bass player was, but it's a killer riff.
    
    Peter

    Hey, can I make a small plug for "Duck" Dunn?  Every time I watch
    "The Blues Brothers", my ears zero in on Duck's bass work!
    
    						--Eric--
    
    P.S. Ditto all the replies on McCartney....:^)

    re -.2: I gotta vote for either Duck Dunn, who was the bassist for
    the Stax session band (included Steve Cropper on guitar) or for
    James Jamerson, who was the Motown session bassist.

    re: -.1
    
    Both great bassists, but I don't think it was either of these guys
    on this particular song.  Gamble and Huff were (are?) based in
    Philadelphia.
    
    

    Now that I think of it, Anthony Jackson is a definite possibility.
    
    Peter

    Is thgat the same Anthony Jackson I went o Berklee with?
    
    Like, funkmaster, right?

    Dunno when you went to Berklee, Buck, or if the Anthony Jackson I'm
    thinking of went there.  AJ played bass on the Gamble/Huff _For the
    Love of Money_ (O'Jays) in the '70s, which makes me think he could 
    have played on the WP cut.  I'm not one of these music research
    honchos, but I'll go back and look at the album and see if I can clear
    up this Unsolved Mystery.
    
    Peter

	Entwhistle - The Real Me
	Pastorius - A Remark You Made
	Glen Moore - Pepe Linque
	Stevie Wonder - I Wish
	Tony Levin - Elephant Talk
	Mingus - Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting
	Pretenders - Mystery Achievement

Good Topic. 
Need more of these and less  "What I want for Christmas". No offense anyone.)

Jaco! Gawd, so many of his recorded moments were inspiring but especially
  Donna Lee (unbelievable)
  Hejira w/ Joni Mitchell (spine chilling)
This guy will never receive the recognition that I think he deserves. IMO,
he did more for the sound of electric bass than anyone else. period.

Paul McCartney, a Day in the Life was great work but I always thought 
his sense of phrasing on 
  Rain and
  Getting Better (I dare you to play this)
was really extrordinary, especially on the latter. Check it out.

--rjb

    Perhaps this is slightly out of the current context, but if we're
    talking about bass lines, I gotta tell you that I *LOVE* whoever it
    is programming those synth bass lines on the last two Michael Jackson
    albums.
    
    Take a good listen to  "Man in the Mirror".

    I won't say it changed my life, but the bass line from Tesla's "Hang
    Tuff" is cool.
    
    One that I really love is Smithereens "Blood and Roses"...It's cool...
    
    jc

    A bass line that blows my mind is from Digital Underground's _The
    Humpty Dance_ ...way cool!

    Not that I'm a big rap fan or anything, but along that same line, I
    love that bass line in Young MCs "Bust a Move".  It's simple but really
    driving.
    
    Greg 

    
    RE: .76
    <Not that I'm a big rap fan or anything, 
    
    Yeah, sure Greg!  We believe THAT one!  8*)
    
    RE:  "Bust a Move"
    
    Doesn't Flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers play the bass one that song???
    
    Back to the general discussion on the topic, some of the songs that I 
    really like the bass lines are:
    Rush------------Marathon
    Queensryche-----Operation: Mindcrime, Della Brown, Jet City Woman
    Blues Saraceno--Before the Storm with Randy Coven on bass
    

    
    	About 90% of Paul McCartney's bass lines on the Beatles albums
    changed my life... nobody has EVER played so melodically, before
    or since.
    
    
    
    
    Brad Page
     

       
       
       
       
       
       Check out Bruce Thomas' playing with Elvis Costello.  Maybe not
       as sweet as Paul, but definitely melodic.  Seeing (well,
       actually, hearing) him play live really opened my eyes to bass
       possibilities.
       
       
       
       
       

Phil Lesh is also someone who can open your eyes. Not as melodic as Paul,
but can improvise like a mofo.
							John.

    Here, here for Phil Lesh.  He's hot on the bass.

    My all time efavorite bass line is the Bee Gees "Stayin Alive"
    My favorite type of music is death metal,punk and disco
    Strange combonation huh? I love the Staurday night Fever record
    

        Heard an  oldie on the radio yesterday and I'd forgotten what
        an influence the bass  line  had  had  when  I  first started
        playing bass.
        
        `Simple Kind of Man' - Lynyrd Skynard
        
        Matt

    Great tune, slight nit.
    
    It's Simply "Simple Man".  Just played/sang that yesterday at
    our monthly jam.  Love that southern stuff dude !

Can't Hurry Love - the Supremes version.

        RE: .84
        
        Oh. . .okay.
        
        :^P
        
        Matt

    I hate to drag up old topics,  but I wasn't around back then.
    
    Did anyone mention anything by Pino Paledino (or ain't you lot heard of
    him?) 
    
    Also Ellis Beggs and Howard - Big Bubbles, no Troubles.  Nick Begg's
    chapman stick is the Best.
    
    Anything by Tony Levin, Lee Sklar,  Mick Anker,  Jaco, and that dude
    that did the bass line to Opposites Attract by Paula Abdul.  
    
    Nigel
    
    P.S.  I'm sure that Paula Abdul could play the Bass,  and she would
    certainly change my life.
    
    
    

    More on Ellis, Beggs and Howard, pleez.  I have seen pics of Beggs in
    ads but they have no releases in the US that I know of.  What kind of
    music is it?
    
    						Brian

    Tony Levin is one of my favorite bass players.  Truely awe inspiring!
    
    gh

    I don't know if any of the pre-mentioned players are in the Steve Morse
    Band, but his (Steve Morse's bassman) display of talent on the "Coast
    to  Coast" album impressed the hell outa me!
    
    Steve

    re: .90 (SDandrea)
    
>    I don't know if any of the pre-mentioned players are in the Steve Morse
>    Band, but his (Steve Morse's bassman) display of talent on the "Coast
>    to  Coast" album impressed the hell outa me!
    
    That's Dave LaRue and no, he wasn't mentioned.
    
    If you want to check out the guy who I think is the best bass player
    I've ever seen, check out an earlier Morse album called "The
    Introduction".
    
    Someone DID mention the bass line from that one section of "Ice Cakes"
    from the Dixie Dreg's "What If" album, and I want to strongly second
    that one.  It's all over the place and yet it fits PERFECTLY behind
    everything else.  I probably listened to that a dozen times before
    I focused in on the bass and realized how incredible it was.

    re: .87
    > ...and that dude that did the bass line to Opposites Attract by Paula 
    > Abdul.
    
    I never expected to hear that - never thought anyone else besides
    myself would even admit to it.
    
    But there's a particularly groove/funk style of T-40 bass  that I
    absolutely LOVE and that tune is a fine example of it.
    
    Usually it's synth bass - I've only met one or two guys who can play
    that style and really nail the groove (cause if you don't, it sounds
    100% cheesey).   
    
    It's easy to "hit the notes" but "nailing the groove" takes incredible
    talent. I've sequenced those kind of bass lines and it often takes a
    dozen takes for me to hit the groove.  Makes me truly amazed at the
    guys who can pull it off live.
    
    I'm pretty sure that the bass for that track was sequenced, but I'm
    sure Paula would be able to find someone who can do it live.

    I'll ask Paula next time I'm in bed with her.
    
    Nathan could have played it and nailed it first time in the studio, 
    
    (I could have done it in about two or three takes
    
    
    
    
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    Nigel
    

    I'M APPALLED THAT NO MENTION OF PHIL COLLINS' HOBBY BAND BRAND X BASS
    PLAYER, THE INCOMPARABLE PERCY JONES WAS MADE. Also, (I've cooled down
    now) a London, Ontario band called Thundermug had an awesome debut
    album and a song with a bass line in a song called "Africa" that most
    certainly changed my life. As well the following:
    
    Jack Bruce: I'm So Glad
    John Entwhistle: The Real Me
    Jack Cassidy: Other Side of this Life/Somebody to Love (Live)
    Chris Suire: Roundabout

    I cannot believe I was almost not going to mention the amazing Alain
    Caron of the Montreal based progressive jazz band UZEB. If you ever get
    a chance to see any live performances on the Bravo channel from
    concerts gone by or pick up any of their recordings do so, as I believe they
    are no longer together. What a shame!              

    I'll second Jack Bruce Bill, but Crossroads at the fillmore does it for
    me....
    
    -kev (you know who)