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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1776.0. "MIDI-Pedals for Effects boxes" by KBOMFG::MACKINNON () Wed Apr 11 1990 12:35

11-APR-1990

Thanks for all the responses on that last note, really appreciate that.

Another subject - is there a general consensus out there about MIDI-Pedals
to control these digital effects boxes?  What types are people using out
there and what are the things to look out for, important/or nice options to 
have etc? -or could anybody refer me to some Guitar Player issues that may have 
discussed this?  In case you haven't guessed I'm going through the 
'get rid of stomp boxes to multi-effects' phase, - so I'm trying to educate
myself on these things before I go out and drop my DM's .

Roy
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1776.1LARVAE::BRIGGSThey use computers don't they?Wed Apr 11 1990 13:399
    I'd also appreciate a beginners guide to effects boxes. For instance,
    what they can do, what a basic one is, what part do pedals play etc etc
    etc. 
    
    Buying an electric guitar last year seems to have opened up a new range
    of possibilities for me to spend money on (much to my wife's concern!).
    
    Richard
    Basingstoke, UK
1776.2Get a lookSMURF::BENNETTThe Alder StatesmanWed Apr 11 1990 14:309
	At the official TONE note in this notesfile. A number of us have
	been thru pedals, multi-FX units, midi control, 10 kinds of
	guitars, 80 flavors of pickups, a dozen brands of strings, amps,
	speakers... only to return to running a Les Paul thru a Marshall
	with nothing but raw amp & guitar.

	Please keep us posted. I've been getting my equipment trills
	vicariously in these notes....
1776.3TCC::COOPERMIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack pukeWed Apr 11 1990 15:2015
Yep, like Mr Bennett, I've gone off and bought loads of effects processors.
Less is definately more....

Althought I still have a little "more" than a Gibson and a Marshall...

I basically have a preamp and poweramp and a noise reducer (Hush)...
Sometimes I use a DSP128... Even that is a little overkill since
I use one algorhytym only and one patch on top of that.

Never again will I got the route of "Hey my box can do 666 FX at once!"

The K*I*S*S principle definately applies here...


jc
1776.4probably the only effects I'll try through the KittyUPWARD::HEISERfrom the trendoid vortex of AmericaWed Apr 11 1990 18:114
    I got the impression in here that not much is widely used other than
    Chorus and Delay.
    
    Mike
1776.5Quick PrimerAQUA::ROSTBass is the placeThu Apr 12 1990 09:4957
    
    I thought that there was already a note in here that described what
    the common effects are and what they are used for, but a dir/tit
    didn't dredge it up, oh well.
    
    There are a couple of basic effects groups:
    
    1. Distortion
    
    I think everyone knows what this is and what it's for.  Only about a
    zillion boxes out there to do this.
    
    2. Time Delay
    
    Lotsa stuff here.  Reverb and echo, of course, based on simple delaying
    of signals.  If you then *modulate* the delay time (i.e. the delay
    time is constantly changing over a fixed range) you get phasing,
    flanging, chorus, vibrato, etc. type effects.  At short delay times,
    the effect creates a "shimmer" or "Whoosh" type of sound which is
    caused by various harmonics in the input signal being accentuated over
    time.  Also most harmonizers and pitch shifters are actually based on
    time delays; these allow you to input a signal at one pitch and have
    different pitches come out.  Most of these effects are now done
    digitally for better fidelity and greater versatility, but the analog
    versions tend to sound "warmer" and can be better in certain
    applications.
    
    3. Amplitude Correction
    
    Compression, which makes quiet signals louder and loud signals quieter,
    is the best known of these.  Also, expansion, which is the *opposite*
    of compression.  Limiting is basically compression where you *don't*
    boost quiet signals but severely clamp the level of loud signals.  Also
    included here would be noise gates and noise reduction devices, which
    as their names suggest are used to remove noise (primarily hiss) from
    your signal.
    
    4.  Equalizers
    
    Fancy word for tone controls.  Parametric EQs let you adjust at what
    frequency adjustments are made.  True parametrics also offer control
    over how *wide* a range of frequencies the adjustment will be made, so
    called "pseudo-parametric" EQs often omit this.  Graphic EQs have three
    or more fixed bands of EQ.  They are not as versatile as parametrics,
    but if they have lots of bands can come quite close.
    
    5.  Miscellaneous
    
    Wah wah pedals, which are actually a sweepable tone control; envelope
    followers, which allow you to control tone by the attack of your notes
    (sort of like an automatic wah pedal, listen to mid-70s soul and disco
    records for this effect); aural enhancers/exciters add additional
    harmonic content (read: more treble and presence) to your signal to
    make it sound punchier; octave dividers regenerate your signal one
    octave below where you are playing.
    
    							Brian
1776.6primer pointerUPWARD::HEISERtag his toe & put him in the drawerThu Apr 12 1990 13:043
    do a DIR/TITLE=dictionary
    
    Mike