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1719.1 | A relationship of the musical kind | MFGMEM::DERRICO | | Thu Mar 15 1990 10:07 | 13 |
| The first thing you might consider is to express your feelings
to the band, there's nothing more imprtant(besides practice) than
keeping an open communication with your musical peers. Let them know
how you feel as to how productive things are.
One thing to watch out for is being too rigid- you might just want
to have practices where occasionally you simply jam for the fun of it.
Another thing is to have all your material practiced on at home- so
when you get to rehearsal, you are ready.
Good luck,
John
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1719.2 | | TELALL::BUCKLEY | No one home in my house of pain | Thu Mar 15 1990 10:14 | 2 |
| Our rehersals are really loose...sometimes *too* loose for our own
good! I like having structuredrehearsals myself.
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1719.3 | A bit radical but... | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Conliberative | Thu Mar 15 1990 10:30 | 25 |
| If you want "instant structured" rehearsals, you might want to
investigate a technique I've found useful.
I was in a T-40 band that seemed to spend forever in my basement.
People weren't learning parts, a lot of screwin' around, etc. etc.
The drummer (an old pro and former "in-house" drummer for Motown)
and I were getting fed up.
Based on the "sink or swim" principle, he and I decided to go out
and book a gig with only two weeks to get in shape.
Well, the initial reaction was almost violent. The other guitarist
was literally panic-stricken. But you know, things started coming
together a lot faster and practice time was maximized to the hilt.
The gig went ok, not great, and admittedly a lot of it was improvised,
repeated songs, or me reading from a fake book with the rest of the
band sorta following.
The people who booked us told us we were "great".
It's a technique worth considering.
db
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1719.4 | Different Strokes Fer Different Folks | AQUA::ROST | Bikini Girls With Machine Guns | Thu Mar 15 1990 10:33 | 32 |
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Most bands I've been in have had pretty loose rehearsals. The only
exception was one where it was a leader/sideman type of band, we just
showed up and the leader ran down the songs with us.
My current band is *real* loose at rehearsing, but our setup is
basically, each guy throws out a new tune or two he wants to work on,
we play the record, listen for the parts then sort of steamroll right
through all the nuances 8^) 8^).
When we royally screw up a number live, it usually ends up getting
worked on in the next rehearsal, and every six months or so we do a
"Beginning/end" rehearsal where we play just the intro, maybe one
verse, and the ending of *every* song on our list (talk about weird
ways to practice) since it's usually these parts of the arrangements
that get forgotten.
Now, what would be ideal? Actually, a structured setting where we know
what we're going to do *before* we show up. Someone in the band has to
organize it, of course. I.e. let everyone know what will be worked on,
etc. Seperate sessions for just vocals, just bass and drums, etc. have
wroked out well in top 40 bands I've played in where real precision
arrangements were of upmost importance (as opposed to C&W bands where
noone knew what an arrangement was 8^) 8^)).
I dunno, if I was doing this full time, or working in a band where
sloppiness wasn't a virtue 8^) 8^) then I'd probably be more into
getting 100% of the rehearsal constructive.
Brian
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1719.5 | | DECWIN::KMCDONOUGH | Set Kids/Nosick | Thu Mar 15 1990 10:53 | 14 |
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I'll agree with DB. My current band (startup) was learning songs at
a pretty good rate, but there was no drive to get arrangements tight
and really learn the tunes.
So, we booked a 3-night gig that gave us about 1 month to get ready.
Now, it's sink or swim time.
That first night will be touch and go, but the 3rd night should be a
lot easier.
Kevin
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1719.6 | Hut 2-3-4 | ROYALT::TASSINARI | Bob | Thu Mar 15 1990 12:28 | 47 |
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I have different experiences......'from the ground-up', and 'just getting
back into it' situations to 'joining an existing band'. They weren't the
same probably because the personalities were different.
There are some who like just hangin' loose, just lettin' it happen,
eh, que pasa?, you know? I'm not one of those types because without
focus it becomes another DEC meeting 8-)! Sorry, couldn't resist.
I acknowledge the 'book a gig' method. I found it scary (just happened
in the band I'm in), lots of pressure, and lots of compromises for the
sake of schedule (sounds familiar ;-)). I didn't find it fun and I LOVE
to play. You also need to be able to accurately judge the bands ability
to progress (know your band mates well). If you book too soon (we did)
it can be a bit embarassing (it was).
I like to use a practical approach. Where do I want to be in the end?
What do I need to do to get there? How long will it take? Yea, so it's not
real artsy but it has worked for me.
Discussing an agenda for next time ( what tunes?, who has the sheets,
tapes, etc.) sets up expectations and keeps the communication open
(everyone is involved).
Making notes from the gig of tunes that need work (and what parts) is
helpful.
When we were rehearsing in the 'from the ground-up' band, I used to
check off things we practiced. We found that we 'forgot' to go over
some tunes, we had a tendency to practice the same tunes rehearsal to
rehearsal. Some tunes need constant work and some need brushing up
once in a while. I'm not sure how this could happen unless you keep
track.
The difficulty is the balance between being too regimented and not
regimented enough. Some jammin', etc can be good to clear the mind.
On the other hand, too much leaves things undone.
First and foremost, the band needs to agree. It only takes one to
slow things down.
Bob Tassinari
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1719.7 | More Info
| SMURF::BENNETT | Pirhanna III - Tuna Bats in Knee-Hi's | Thu Mar 15 1990 14:35 | 25 |
|
There's a lot on info on how to handle this in the MUSIC notes
at note #65.
The past 2 months I've been working with an ever shifting cast
of characters trying to get a band off the ground and the
following things appear to be working:
o Have an agenda - and agree what it is
o Come prepared to work
o Rehearse known material for warm up
o Work in a new piece
o Jam for dessert. This is a good technique for learning to listen
o spend 1/2 talking over the rehearsal and planning the next one
o Oh.... noise hangovers suck, cut to impulse power if possible (new!)
We are in the process of generating charts and tapes for the stuff
we do. Chart readers can start cold on the first time in, tape folk
can listen and come in solid second time.
Now to find Yet Another Bass Player.
Charlie B
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1719.8 | | FREEBE::REAUME | rollin' rack! | Thu Mar 15 1990 15:24 | 14 |
| ...I've been through the rut where a few guys in the band just
want to bang away in the cellar until everything is PERFECT. I say
f*ck that! You might get tight, but I think that's how tensions rise
and the band will disperse without anything to show for all those
basement hours. Set a reasonable deadline, do frequent rehearsals
until your sets are complete, polish the rough spots, and go out
and play a gig. After you've got a feel for what market the band
is geared toward, then make the refinements that will improve the
band.
I'm happy with my rehearsal situation. We rely heavily on everyone
learning songs off a tape, so all we normally have to spend any
significant amounts of time on are endings and vocal harmonies.
-BoOm-
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1719.9 | Any input there Bulldawg ? | TCC::COOPER | MIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack puke | Thu Mar 15 1990 15:35 | 23 |
| Yeah the Sink Or Swim method works...But it is scary... Nobody wants
to be on stage when there is a boo-boo... ;)
RnR practices started out under pressure, because from the first gig
we played we've been playing nearly every weekend. We basically threw together
4 sets of material so we could start working... We didn't pay much attention
to dynamics, stage presense etc... Just structure, chords and notes.
Now that we've been together for a while (wow, coming up on 5 months!), we've
started to really 'pull together as a team' (can you tell the other guys in RnR
are reading this ?? 8^0 )... We're being more fussy about what we're doing, the
dynamics are coming together, we're working up guitar harmonies etc...
To me being in a band must be like being married...Because there is lot work
involved in communication (in our case 5 times more work than just having 1
spouse). You have to understand everyones needs, and be willing to compromise
too...Which is the tuffest part. Communication is the key to it.
The schedules and agendas work well, if you stick by them...But you have to
follow tangents sometimes (especially if you do any original material!) too.
jc (1/5 of RnR)
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1719.10 | My thoughts ..... | ASAHI::SCARY | Joke 'em if they can't take a ... | Thu Mar 15 1990 15:45 | 24 |
| My band practiced 1 time - everything clicked pretty good, then
our frontman/bass player booked a gig ! Granted, the tunes we were
gonna do were mostly oldies which had been etched in our brains
for years, but the pressure to perform (kinda like a honeymoon)
was on. 1st gig went great, got rebooked at the same place for
more money, blah, blah, blah.
But for rehearsal, we usually jam on one of our current songs, then
get down to the business of learning new stuff. Recently we've
just been bouncing ideas off eachother and usually 2 out of the
3 of us will know it and away we go. I highly suggest jamming every
practice. Not a 20 minute version of "Cocaine" but a brief tune
that will allow each player room to "express" their style. You
can learn a lot about what type of tunes the group will handle well
by listening to the band's ingredients seperately.
Having a song list of tunes you know is crucial too. I hate wondering
what tunes you know (aggaga .... we know *so* many !).
It has to be fun though .... if it's TOO structured it'll be like
work. I don't unwind well at work, do you ?
Scary
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1719.11 | | TELALL::BUCKLEY | No one home in my house of pain | Thu Mar 15 1990 15:45 | 3 |
| Back when I had *my* band, rehearsals ran like the Third Reich! Now,
I am in a band where things are looser, and that is not always to our
advantage!
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1719.12 | what, me worry? | TOOK::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Thu Mar 15 1990 18:03 | 25 |
| I agree with a lot of the things said in .7. I've been in bands that
had just about every style of "practice" imagineable, from "let's jam
from 9-2", to "here's the list of stuff we're doing tonight". I think a
lot of people have been suggesting some middle ground. What my current
group does:
- Warm up on some familiar stuff. If you've got a lot of stuff in
your repertoire and don't gig all the time, it's good to go over stuff
just to keep it fresh in your memory.
- Do some more serious work on things that need it. One of our
members keeps careful track of the status of everything we are doing,
so we can quickly conjure up a list of what needs work. We usually do
this the week before, or communicate it sometime prior to practice. If
we haven't, we usually sit down at the beginning of practice and
discuss what needs work that night, then follow the agenda.
- Allow time for "having fun". If you're into jamming, fine. For us
it's doing some number that we all enjoy, usually something fairly new
that we aren't bored with yet.
A final suggestion - replace all of the band members with MIDI
sequences :-) This makes things go much smoother.
- Ram
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1719.13 | How about..... | CSC32::MOLLER | Nightmare on Sesame Street | Thu Mar 15 1990 19:14 | 25 |
| Of course, you could take my approach. It's been years since my
MIDI duo has had a practice, I tend to sequence all of the keyboard
players parts & set the volume loud until he learns his parts
(a cheat sheet is provided). Once he learns them, I set the
CC7 MIDI controller (Volume) low. We add about 1 new song every
2 weeks & play practically every weekend.
Before we were a MIDI duo, I carted around a TEAC portastudio &
used it in the same fashion as I do the MIDI stuff.
I enjoy keeping the 'band' to manageable numbers & never have to
worry about replacing either the Bass player or Drummer (they
are both rack mounted at the moment, or someone showing up late.
As for myself, I only work out songs that I like. The keyboard
player does the same (we each have sequencers & access to the same
gear). Cheat Sheets/fake books are all it takes. I'd rather be out
earning money. Since I know the songs & set up the arrangements,
there is limited need for rehearsal, at least on my part. Usually
by the 3rd time we've played anything, it sounds pretty tight.
By the way, it takes 2 to 6 hours to sequence a song (on the average),
so I guess that you could call this rehearsal of sorts.
Jens
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1719.14 | OK, who's off time now??? | CSC32::H_SO | | Thu Mar 15 1990 22:07 | 18 |
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Structure practices? Boy, you guys sound serious! ;-)
The band that I am involved in has been together since New Year Eve
and we get together 2 days a week, anywhere from 3 to 6 hours a day.
And so far, we've got around 17 presentable materials. We don't
have structured practices, we are SERIOUS about practicing; no booz nor
drugs during practice! and most of all, we have alot of fun.
To me, all business and no fun makes our band a dull band.
You need motivation behind your work and if it's too structured, it
would feel like job, and not something I enjoy doing. I realize that
there is a fine line that needs to be drawn, but either extreme can
break up a band! I think this applies to everything in life, actually!
Well, this is MHO...
J.
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1719.15 | The syndrome??? | CMBOOT::EVANS | if you don't C# you'll Bb | Fri Mar 16 1990 07:34 | 16 |
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Band practice is my favourite passtime. We work hard & play hard
ie if we feel we deserve it we crack open the beer later if not we go &
sulk. Our band is bunch of real jokers, we have at least one collapse
into uncontrollable laughter per session often & the drummers expense.
What I want to ask is do any of you have experience of the good
reheasal = bad gig syndrome?
I've noticed in just about every band I've played in that if we
rehears real well the gig flops by comparison. If the rehearsal flops
the gig goes down a storm. Maybe my imagination but I've heard lots of
people mention this, hows about you guys.
Cheers
Pete.
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1719.16 | Way lame attitude IMHO | FACVAX::BUCKLEY | No one home in my house of pain | Fri Mar 16 1990 08:28 | 7 |
| I just quit my band last night...the reason? Their abhorable practice
etiquettes got the best of me. I don't wanna play in a band that runs
sloppy "it's good enuff, the audience won't know the difference"
rehearsals...where do you think that midset translats to...exactly,
poor gigs!
Buck, who says "who said practice was supposed to be `fun'?"
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1719.17 | Psychological | AQUA::ROST | Bikini Girls With Machine Guns | Fri Mar 16 1990 09:02 | 26 |
| Re: .15, .16
I think it's a psychological problem. You have a great rehearsal and
then when something goes weird at the gig, you get nervous and uptight,
etc. Then when you have a messy rehearsal, you go to the gig and play
just as messy but since the audience gets into it, you get psyched and
start really stretching.
A lot of the time the audience *doesn't* have any idea how well you're
playing. I have a bad habit of responding to compliments from the
audience with "Oh, you should see us when we're playing well, etc."
instead of just saying "Thank you." It's as if I'm more embarassed
about being complimented after I screwed up.
I want to digress a bit and mention that there seems to be a concept
that sloppiness is a virtue in certain styles of music. Punk rock, for
example. Or even the band I'm in now 8^) 8^). I live with it, I'm
having fun but I see it as detrimental in the long run. My band has
played for three and a half years and yet we can't get through a night
without at least one major screw-up. As a result we'll never be
anything more than what we are now, a bar band. I think that's *why*
we've been together so long, it gives everybody a chance to let their
hair down (I'm the only one who isn't doing this band as a side
project) and cut loose.
Brian
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1719.18 | | FACVAX::BUCKLEY | No one home in my house of pain | Fri Mar 16 1990 09:10 | 6 |
| .17
You made some good points, but I don't think, in my mind, that
general disinterest in putting some 'hard work' into your music
should be used as a crutch for an "everybody makes mistakes/we're
only human" excuse.
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1719.19 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack puke | Fri Mar 16 1990 09:35 | 6 |
| Well, IMHO we are all human, and we are ALL gonna make mistakes...
The problems occur when you make continual mistakes and don't
work to correct them. It's when forward motion ceases to exist that
I get bent out of shape...
jc (Who makes enough mistakes for all of you... :---)
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1719.20 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack puke | Fri Mar 16 1990 09:37 | 8 |
| Oh, I forgot...
When I used to race dirt bikes, a friend of mine used to coach me...
He said if I didn't fall off once in a while, I wasn't trying hard enough...
See the connection ??
jc
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1719.21 | The Emperor's New Licks | AQUA::ROST | Bikini Girls With Machine Guns | Fri Mar 16 1990 09:55 | 32 |
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Re: .17
Huh?
I'm not sure what you're responding to but I *don't* believe in using
the virtues of sloppiness as an excuse for laziness. That's why I
used the word "detrimental". And I'm also not suggesting that when
you play a messy set but are able to infuse it with life that that's
preferable to breathing life into an orderly set.
For example: When I first saw the Del Fuegos they had accumulated a
lot of hype about being a real down-to-earth, "normal guys" type of
band. What I heard was an intense drummer, a bassist who could crank
alongside him and a front man who couldn't sing, couldn't play guitar
or write songs. I didn't like them at all. Eventually, the Fuegos
*did* learn to play their instruments, write songs, etc. and as soon as
they did, a lot of their fans deserted them because they had "lost"
their sound. I have a similar problem with the Dead (yeah, I know,
I've gotta go to a show, OK, OK) where I think their audience lets them
get away with poor shows just so they can have the "freedom" to hit one
of their soaring peaks. Hey, I've heard enough so that I know they can
play well. It's just that often they don't, and I can't accept that
when I'm expected to fork over $$$ for tickets.
There's a big difference between John Lee Hooker who has no technical
chops but plays with an emotional power and someone who also has no
technical chops but also no idea of how to infuse his emotions into his
playing.
Brian
Closer_to_the_latter_than_the_former
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1719.23 | Hard work = fun | ELWOOD::CAPOZZO | China Beat | Fri Mar 16 1990 11:16 | 26 |
| Well after reading all these replys I had to add my 2cents. Let face
it, bottom line, use your practice time as a valued time, not a place
to have a night out away from the wife or girlfriend. I have a goal to
be in a band in which everyone eats sleeps and thinks like a pro. Why
you ask, because I have been in many bands that practice, practice, and
then practice somemore and end up doing a few gigs and then one guy
leaves or the whole band breaks up. I want to be part of a band in
which every member has the same goal, treat it like you would a
business, lets face it if you what to get signed someday you need good
music, good common goals, and most of all a well rehersed show. Not
just four guys on stage playing music. Put time into what your trying
to sell to the public and most of all the record companys, I read
somewhere that Boston has something like 5,000 original bands, one
being just like the next. So use your practice wisly, don't screw
around until the end of the night, treat practice like part of the job,
"hard work does pay off"
What if you had to give a presentation at Digital on the Vax 9000,
would you screw around for a week , work on the material off and on,
and just say to yourself, "I know this stuff I don't need to go over
it". (I don't think so)
This is IMO and most likely won't apply 100% to a cover band.
Mike___
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1719.24 | | IAMOK::CROWLEY | Some call me.....Tim | Fri Mar 16 1990 11:19 | 33 |
|
I've been in bands that have had totally opposite ways of
rehearsing. My last band spent more time joking around,
drinking beers, and waiting for the other guitarist to
show up (and it was HIS house we rehearsed at!) I found
myself just as guilty of the bad habits as the other guys
but couldn't see a way out of it, so I left. Rehearsing
songs consisted mainly of running through the song once or
twice...no work on arrangments, dynamics, our show etc.
The band lasted only 6 months.
The two bands I was in before that were ruled, as Buck would
say, like the Third Reich! The former by one of the other
guys and the latter band by myself. Both bands had members
who knew what was expected of them and agreed to the structured
rehearsals and meetings (yes, this is a BUSINESS...you've got
to have business meetings aside from rehearsals!) The results?
Both bands gigged alot! The second band gigged all over the
northeast and had dialogues going with record companys. That
band stayed together for a few years. If we'd had the business
maturity that we individualy have now, we'd still be together
and maybe even signed.
It all depends on what you're in it for....if its just for
fun, then have a blast!! If its for a career, then you
have to structure things and take alot of $hit!
JMHO
Ralph
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1719.25 | It Don't Come Easy | ROYALT::TASSINARI | Bob | Fri Mar 16 1990 11:37 | 31 |
|
We are all human and it is that human-ness that allows us to find
excuses for everything.
I would much rather stay 'hard at it' than to allow myself the luxury
of the 'Im only human' excuses. All mistakes are fixable should you
want to.
Excellent point about moving forward. There's no standing still,
you're either improving or sliding backwards.
Considering the money I've spent on equipment and the leisure
time I put to rehearsing (BOTH of which get taken away from other
thing..there's only so much time and money), I owe it to myself
(and others) to be the best I can be. I can tell you that sometimes
I'm the only guy in the band doing that and it is very discouraging.
Most times I think it's better than sitting at home waiting for the
perfect band.
I'm not looking to be 'make-it really big' but I'd like to feel
that I gave it everything I had. Our limitations are in our own minds.
You CAN do anything you set your mind to.....if you have the desire
and dedication to do what's necessary to get there.
It takes guts to stop accepting the situation and walk....it's a shame
though because I find that an awful lot of investment (especially
emotionally) has been made.
Bob
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1719.26 | Our routine. | CMBOOT::EVANS | if you don't C# you'll Bb | Fri Mar 16 1990 11:45 | 28 |
|
Re.16 Sorry to hear that Buck, I know what you mean though. I was
looking around for a new band a while back & I found no end of
no-gooders who were prepared to get smashed make a noise, total
anarchy.
Although I said we have a laugh we do not compromise standards. We have a
long way to go on a lot of our material esp getting dynamics ( ie NOT 300
db all night). We plug away chipping off the rough bits & it gets
better all the time. AT present we're in a major line up change so we
have an opportunity to be ruthless & cut stuff which doesn't work & set
a higher pace of learning/perfecting introduced. The formulea for
practice will remain similar. Get there on time, set up, tune up
loosen up with a straight jam around a number just to get juices
flowing. Stop! Talk through what people regard as problems or dislikes
& look at a few ideas to mend them. Run the set. Extract the problems
& work them. Stop! have a slug of Coke (the drink!!!) discuss new
matereial. Work new material. Run through new material as if live
noting mistakes. Work mistakes. This has soaked up a good 3-4 hours.
Go to local village pub appologise for being such a pain in rehearsals
but it's for our own good. Buy beer. Go home & practise so that you
aint' the one being shouted at next week. Seems to work, we get better
every time we play & some of our stuff is real knockout.
Right! Andy The Keys & Andy The Other Guitar, now rip me to bits!
Cheers
Pete.
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1719.27 | more 2 cents. | PELKEY::PELKEY | Dangerous Distortion, Serious Sustain | Fri Mar 16 1990 12:42 | 55 |
| The best adivce has already been given.
Sometimes, the most productive rehersal time is spent not playing a note...
Like many of the other noters here, I've been doing bands for a real long
time too, (Since i was like 15..) I've seen many bands, come and go over
the most ridicolous reasons.. The band I work in now has the best inter
personal dynamics you could ever find...
Here's how we have evolved into doing things..
1. Talk about things. Wether it's about one member, or, the entire
auora of whats going on. (real important, : Good inter dynamics)
Up front, out in the open, no emotions,,,, problem, complaint, what
ever.. If your all adults, then it'll work
2. Know your parts BEFORE everyone gets together. then it's like
puttin a puzzle together once the borders are done. Everything falls
into place, depending on the complexities of the song alot smoother then
shooting from your hip. (I don't know bout some of you other guys,
but if I'm not comfortable with a vocal, I can't do it.)
3. Define who will do what when a new song(s) is picked. The person
singing, is responsible for the words (period) the people doing the
harmonies, should know basically where they are, and what the approximate
flavor is. Given that sometimes you just can't dupe some harmonies...
(Real common sense stuff, but you'd be surprise to find out how many
times the person supposed to be singing a tune, never got the words
for it.. That wastes a lot of productive time..)
It's not necessary to learn the solos note for note if your axe men
are good at improv. Leave it up to the guitar player doing the solo
to decide how he wants to run that part of the song. Sometimes, I'll
copy, sometimes, I'll do my own thing. What ever is appropriate, leave
up to eh guy doing it. (Unless you really have a burning desire, then
again,, talk it out.)
4. DONT PALY WHEN OTHERS ARE TRYING TO TALK, OR WORK SOMEHTING OUT.
(nuff said,, lots and lots of time can get wasted by the solo-diddlers.)
5. Plan the rehersals (the agenda thing...)
As a final comment, I can't emphasise enough how important it is to keep
all the communication lines open... Talk about things with each other.
DO NOT wait till you get home, pick up the phone, and tee off on the bass
player with the drummer. This sets a precidence, and it sets an undertone that
eventually wreck the morale. Keep it cool, keep it light, but make
sure you've set goals for each rehersla (or for as many as necessary)
It's much better to walk out of a rehersal knowing you got soemthing
accomplished, then to go into a rehersal not know what you're working
on.
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1719.28 | organized | DNEAST::PUSHARD_MIKE | | Mon Mar 19 1990 07:06 | 12 |
|
In our band,we work from tapes. Each of us have a tape with our songs
on it. New songs are introduced and the person introducing it is
required to provide the tape. we work on our parts at home,and,use
practice sessions to tie it together. We have seperate sessions for
vocals only. We do a couple of songs to warm up,work on new songs,go
over problems with other songs,like openings or parts we need to
improve our timing on,etc.
Mike
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1719.29 | Try out tonight | BAHTAT::BELL | SWAS Leeds 845 2214 | Mon Mar 19 1990 08:28 | 4 |
| Thanks for all the input fellas. I guess I'll try some of these tips
out tonight like turn up with a proper schedule and see what happens.
Richard
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1719.30 | Dangerous change of direction! | CMBOOT::EVANS | if you don't C# you'll Bb | Mon Mar 19 1990 08:36 | 4 |
|
You'll probably get lynched:-)
Pete.
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1719.31 | Two can be One. | IOENG::JWILLIAMS | Welcome to the Bush League | Tue Mar 20 1990 14:41 | 20 |
| My band has three basic modes of practice:
1) Discuss Business
2) Rehearse Material
3) Rehearse Vocals
We do mostly #2 and do not allow anyone to stop in the middle of a
tune. If you screw up a part, you find your way back pronto. No one
really runs the show, everyone knows what's expected of him.
I joined this band 2 weeks before our first gig, and I think gigging as
soon as possible in some out of the way place is the best medicine.
The name of the game is grace under pressure and I can't think of
anything worse than practicing six months with musicians who choke.
You always perform under adverse conditions. No sense playing material
that you can't play solid.
And yes, you CAN be diciplined AND have fun at the same time.
John.
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1719.32 | Instant Band | RANGER::WEBER | | Thu May 31 1990 16:40 | 69 |
| For five years I have had a standing obligation to front a band for a
large party (300 guests) on the first Friday after May 31st. This is
not a real band in the sense of working together regularly--we just get
together each year for this one gig. Since the audience is pretty much
the same every year, we have one standing rule: no repeat material. We
also don't want to invest too much time for a one-shot, so we try to
get by with as little rehearsal as possible. On the other hand, we
don't plan to make fools of ourselves.
We have three female and one male singer, bass, drums, keyboard and
guitar. All the members have extensive band experience (but not
together) and are old pro's at this type of gig. We have had mostly the
same members, though the drum seat has changesd a few times. At the
beginning of April I distribute a list of about 60 songs to each of the
members. At the end of the month, we have a get together for the
purpose of "claiming" songs and to select keys. Usually, we just use
guitar for this meeting. Everyone is expected to learn their parts on
their own, immediately. Sheet music, fake books and recorded music are
used to assist at this.
We then have a couple of two hour evening sessions with anyone who can
attend except the drummer. Leaving out the drums makes it possible to
have the early practices without a sound system and with minimum setup.
We work out arrangements, develop harmonies, pick tempos and work over
rough spots. We might also squeeze in some lunchtime sessions with just
guitar or keyboard and the vocalists to tighten up the ensemble parts.
We continue to shorten the list. Sometimes, the dropped songs are just
not coming together quickly enough and will wind up on next year's
list. Some of the songs are dropped because we decide they suck :-). By
mid-May, we have a playlist of two, 15-song sets.
The strategy for our practice sessions is that we do each song once
through until we've done them all, then we start again from the top. We
do this until we feel we could get throught two sets without looking
completely stupid, at which point we start working on the details.
One week before the gig, we do our first rehearsal with everyone, and
then we have a dress rehearsal a couple of nights before the gig.
That's it. Typically, we've had 4-6 practices and two rehearsals and
we're ready. We aren't going to be great, but we do a better show than
many working bands.
The audience has a wide range of ages, and our playlist covers a lot of
ground. We tend not to use recent songs, but we try to avoid the
standard bar band repertoire. At number of the tunes each year will be
reasonably complex. The party is a cold sober, sit-down luncheon with
no dancing and we are the only entertainment, so we have to keep
everyone's interest.
To make it easier to find songs, we've mined a couple of lodes rather
heavily. One of the singers does Ronstadt well, so we do a couple of
Linda's covers each year. Another does well with Carole King tunes, so
we do a few of those. We usually do something by The Beatles, The
Beachboys, The Pretenders, The Impressions, some Motown, a couple of
standards, and something outrageous. This year we are doing "Wave",
"She Bop", "Goodbye To You", "Satin Doll" and "Moondance" in our first
set, eclectic if not catholic. We sometimes have guest singers: this
year we have a Japanese visitor who will sing "Ue O Mui Te Aruko",
which, of course, was a number 1 hit in the US in 1963.
I know a number of fine musicians who have been rehearsing bands
forever without doing any gigs. They think they are "not ready", I
think they have terminal stage fright. If we were doing a straight
instrumental jazz gig, I wouldn't hesitate to do it cold, without any
rehearsals. The first one or two gigs are a better learning experience
for a band than 100 rehearsals. I wish we could do a few gigs with this
group, but we only get one shot at it. Tomorrow.
Danny W.
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