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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1703.0. "IBANEZ UNIVERSE" by KIDVAX::ALECLAIRE () Mon Mar 05 1990 23:36

    There used to be aTopic for this But I can't find it anymore.
    I'll start another one, but maybe this'll end up there.
    
    This Guitar by Ibanez has *7* strings.
    Otherwize the instrument is set up  with a bolt-on neck.
    
    From the photos in GPFTPM it looks like a lower string has been added.
    
    Special Floyd-licensed trem, 7 pole pickups ( Hum, single, Hum)
    a special locking nut, 7 machine heads.  A speciasl wide neck with
    extra  wide body route.  Tone, Volume and looks like a pickup selector 
    slide switch, side mount plug.
    
    Comes in at least 1 extravagant multi-color colors.
    
    I anyone can find one, kindly post a review of the machine.
    
    
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1703.1Why not ..ASAHI::SCARYJoke 'em if they can't take a ...Tue Mar 06 1990 06:235
    It has an added lower "B" string.  As if I didn't have enough troble
    with 6 of 'em ...
    
    
    				Scary
1703.2CHEFS::DALLISONFunk-o-metal Carpet RideTue Mar 06 1990 07:377
                                                                
    According to Vai, who's says he'll be playing them exclusively 
    now, the guitars will soon be in music stores.          
                                                      
    Vai used the 7 string on the new Whitesnake album.     
    
    -Tony
1703.3up the creekTRACTR::SHIPPINGMon Mar 05 1990 10:435
    I don't know about you but I would be totally lost playing with
    an extra string.  
              
                               Dave
    
1703.4CHEFS::DALLISONFunk-o-metal Carpet RideMon Mar 05 1990 11:2314
                                
    According to Vai, its prettys easy to get used to - he says that
    after a couple of hours the neck seems no different to a 6 string,
    although it would screw me up no end !!!
                                                                      
    If you ask me its just musical snobbery!! If he wants a low B for 
    something he should learn to de-tune the low E string to B, whilst 
    he's playing, and then return it to E after playing his lick in
    B - now *THAT* would be cool!! Having said that, he'd have to lossen 
    his locking nut, then he'd have to re-tune his floyd and.... 
    ...oh well, maybe not!
                     
    -Tony (who also has enough problems playing six strings without worrying
          about a seventh!!).                               
1703.5DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDNice computers don't go downMon Mar 05 1990 12:025
John Mayall was playing a 7 string 20 years ago when I saw him...

FWIW

dbii
1703.6Not new, but still unique in todays marketCSC32::G_HOUSEGreg HouseMon Mar 05 1990 12:199
    Yeah, this isn't exactly a *new* idea.  George Van Epps used a 7 string
    acoustic for years.  It sure takes a lot of custom built parts though. 
    Trem/locknut/pickups...
    
    What's cool is that this one'll be in general production so it'll be
    available (but expensive, no doubt).  I doubt I'd really buy one, but
    it'll be really interesting to see.
    
    Greg
1703.7IAMOK::CROWLEYSome call me.....TimTue Mar 06 1990 13:329
    
    
    Back in 1980 when I was going to U of Lowell, my guitar prof
    played on a 7 string.  Used to confuse the hell out of me
    at first when I'd look at a positioning he was showing me,
    and I'd end up on the wrong strings on my guitar!
    
    Ralph
    
1703.8TELALL::BUCKLEYTNT on I-25 at 85Tue Mar 06 1990 13:392
    Lenny Breau used to play a 7 string, but his addition was a high A
    string.
1703.9It takes me long enough to string up nowFREEBE::REAUMEJane! Gimme back my loincloth!Wed Mar 07 1990 10:5114
    
      OK, how long is it gonna take DiMarzio and Seymour to come up
    with a replacement 7 pole pick-up? How about an extra low bass
    control on guitar amps to cover this new low B string. 
    All the string companies are gonna stand behind this guitar, eh?
    
    			- I'm selling all my axes right now! -
    
   
    		- I can't stand my sense of humor  (sometimes) -
    		
    							-BoOm-
 
 
1703.10TCC::COOPERMIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack pukeWed Mar 07 1990 11:124
Gee, I can see all the metal heads scrambling to write a whole bunch of 
songs in B using all the classic Judas Priest lix that used to be in E !

:)
1703.12Steel fifth (seventh) Wheel?SUBWAY::BAUEREvan Bauer, DBS Tech Support, NYWed Mar 07 1990 23:526
    Keith Richard could get one and then have a guitar where he didn't have
    to use 3 of the strings.  Or he could use his standard ratio of 
    5 strings:3 notes:2 fingers:1 *!@#$% -- and leave all the strings on the
    Ibanez and get (be?) a second *!@#$%.
    
    - Evan
1703.13Problems tuning the G-string (or detuning???)CSC32::H_SOThu Mar 08 1990 00:1111
    
    My former instructor, Michael Miller, had/has a 7 string semi-hollow
    body, but he said that it's mainly for jazz playing.  "It adds more
    depth", I think is what he said.  It was custom made, though.
    Thank god he didn't use it for giving lessons; would have confused the
    h*ll out of me!!!
    I think his had a low B.
    
    Now, that man could play *ANYTHING* !!!
    
    J.
1703.14George Van EpsMILKWY::JACQUESThu Mar 08 1990 15:408
    George Van Eps has long been considered the master of the 7 string 
    guitar. His 7 string archtop was made by Epiphone (I believe), and 
    also has a string dampener attached to the headstock. About 5 years
    ago, Guitar Player did a cover story on George and his unique playing
    style. I'll see if I can locate the article and post the issue later.
    
    Mark
    
1703.15Van EpsTOOTER::WEBERFri Mar 09 1990 11:2910
    Van Eps' original 7-string was an Epi, but he started using a Gretsch
    Van Eps model in the '60's.
    
    George uses a low A string, which allows the fingering to be
    transferred easily from a six string. Chords that formerly had roots on
    the fifth string now have them on the 7th string.
    
    Most custom archtop builders offer 7 string versions.
    
    Danny W.
1703.16Dont' get me wrong, *I* don't want oneCOOKIE::G_HOUSENo, I'm very, very shy.Mon Jun 04 1990 18:4510
Has anyone actually seen one of these beasts?  The Ibanez dealer that I work
with here in Co. Springs says they won't stock any because they don't believe
the market here will support it (probably true).  Said they'd be happy to 
order one for "someone", if "someone" wanted one though.

My dealer said the price was "about $1800", anyone know what they're actually
selling for?

Greg (who could have three killer 550,560, or 570s for that, with a couple 
      hundred change...)
1703.17decent dealHAVASU::HEISERtocar la guitarraSat Jun 29 1991 01:234
    There's a black in the Phoenix's papers for $1,000.  In talking with
    store owners, it sounds like these aren't going over too well.
    
    Mike
1703.18Universe addition to my flock?KDX200::COOPERRevolution calling!Thu Feb 09 1995 08:2014
    A better deal:
    
    I saw one in a local pawn shop the other day for $600 with case.
    
    7 string Ibanez Universe, black, florescent green
    pickups/knobs/bindings....  Looked like it'd make a NICE addition
    to my hot-pink Ibz.  I'm considering it.  It played just like my
    other two ibanez, 'cept the fret-board was a little wider.  I think
    I could get used to it...
    
    Anyone have any comments?
    
    jc
    
1703.19u NEED this axe!RICKS::CALCAGNIhow could it be otherwise?Thu Feb 09 1995 08:231
    
1703.20KDX200::COOPERRevolution calling!Thu Feb 09 1995 08:304
    Well, I think you're right, but I was actually probing for something
    I *didn't* know.  :-)
    
    
1703.22SUBPAC::GOLDIEResident AlienSat May 18 1996 07:316
    
    ...don't no about the price but I generally avoid Daddy's
    stores,the one in Shrewsbury seems to be run by a bunch of idiots!
    
    
    				ian