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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1696.0. "FENDER SUPER REVERB - ???$$$???" by --UnknownUser-- () Wed Feb 28 1990 18:17

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1696.1I used to have one back in the 60'sCGVAX2::GOODWINWed Feb 28 1990 23:0822
    Dan-
    
    I was looking for a pre-CBS super reverb for over half a year and
    was unable to locate one.  Finally I gave up and blew my cash on
    some Kitty Hawk stuff instead, but the vintage equipment dealers
    who I spoke with during my search (Cambridge Music, RetroMusic in
    Keene, NH, Lark Street Music in Albany, NY, and Billy Lees Music
    in Worcester) all gave me similar price ranges. They said depending
    on condition, they usually sell somewhere between $475 to $600, and
    they usually sell pretty fast.  This was about a year ago, so prices
    may have changed somewhat since then.  They said that the 'Fender
    Electric' (pre-CBS) models are more sought after than the 'Fender
    Musical' versions, though there weren't significant circuitry changes
    made until the silver faces came along. The blackfaces are generally
    worth more than the silverfaces.  They also said that the closer the
    amp is to original, the better... any modifications made by previous
    owners drastically lowers the resale value.
    
    Anyhow, it sounds like you've got a real gem there... drop me a line
    if you decide to sell it... I might be interested in looking at it.
    
    Steve
1696.2how old is it really?RICKS::CALCAGNIThu Mar 01 1990 12:5116
    well, 20 years ago puts it around 1970.  By that time, all
    Fender amps had switched to the silver panels and the engineers
    had *improved* the circuitry.  With Supers, the circuitry wasn't
    modified immediately; early silver panel Supers are very close
    to the earlier blackface Supers in design and performance (unlike
    Twins, which got really bad for a while right after the silver
    panel was added).  The earlier, unmodified designs are generally
    considered to sound better (and I agree), but any Super is a
    good amp really.
    
    If it's got a black panel, or a silver panel with NO master volume,
    then it's desirable.  I usually see non-MV silvers selling for
    $300 - 400.  MV silvers don't usually go for much less (maybe $50)
    but they don't sell as quickly.
    
    /rick
1696.3Super Reverb -- how old is it?FABSIX::E_PHILLIPSFri Jan 24 1997 09:1319
    This note seems like the best place for this question...
    
    I am trying to find the approximate vintage of my wife's Fender Super
    Reverb.  It's a silver face but with no master volume control.  I took
    the chassis out looking for identification numbers but only found the
    following:
    
    Stamped on the chassis      = T-5 A 76515
    Printed on the tube chart   = 010385
    Stickers inside the chassis = W-14, W-21, W-26 and INSP 28
    
    Any Fender amp specialists out there who can help?
    
    						--Eric--
    
    P.S. BTW, we finished refurbishing this amp a few months ago (new
    tubes, new reverb tank and two new speakers) and wow, does it sound
    sweet.  I know that rockers and blooz players like 'em -- but it's a
    great amp for playing country music, too!
1696.4RICKS::CALCAGNIthick slabs of dirt in a halo of airy twangFri Jan 24 1997 12:207
    Is there a metal frame around the front grill?  That would put it at
    '68 - '69.  Otherwise, get any 6 or 7 digit numbers off the
    potentiometers.  That should help date the pots, and probably the
    amp as well.
    
    /rick
    
1696.5;^)FABSIX::E_PHILLIPSFri Jan 24 1997 13:025
    Re. -1
    
    Thanx, I'll try it (AFTER this weekend...I've got a gig to play!)
    
    						--Eric--
1696.6a few more clues...EVER::GOODWINFri Jan 24 1997 18:5617
    
    The tube chart should give some indication of vintage.  The blackface
    era ended with the AB763 circuit and the first silverfaces came out in
    1968. There was an AB568 circuit that was produced through early 1970,
    which was followed by an AA270 circuit.
    
    The first silverfaces were 40 watts RMS and were labeled "SUPER REVERB
    AMP" in block letters on the front panel.  In 1970 (probably with the
    new AA270 design) they became 45 watts RMS.  In 1972, the label was
    changed to "SUPER REVERB", with no "AMP", and casters were added to the
    cabinet. I'm not certain exactly when a master volume control was added.
    
    The transformers and speakers may also have a code stamped on them which
    indicates the date of manufacture.
    
    /Steve (who went through a similar exercise with a blackface last year
    	and was able to narrow it down to late 1967).