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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1676.0. "Tolex glue?" by VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE () Fri Feb 09 1990 10:19

    What kind of adhesive do I use for Tolex?
    
    Thanks in Advance
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1676.1My techniqueCSC32::MOLLERNightmare on Sesame StreetFri Feb 09 1990 11:4162
	If you are attaching to bare wood, Elmers carpenter wood glue
	works quite well (no fumes either). If you have a painted or
	already finished cabinet that you can to cover over, use
	contact cement (in a well ventilated area).

	The procedure for applying Tolex (or Ozite for that matter) and
	Elmers (or any other varient of the same type of glue) is to
	do a side at a time. Most people try to start at an area that
	will be covered by hardware (like metal/plastic corners), and
	try to put all seams on the bottom of the cabinet. Give yourself
	lots of leeway when cutting the covering material. Measure the
	material and make sure that you include the extra that you need
	to round all of the edges and up until the material can butt up
	to any braces. Add another 1 to 2 inches to allow for you not
	aligning everything perfectly straight. Never put a seam directly
	on a corner (always an 1/2 to 1 inch from that edge), unless you 
	plan to totally cover the corner with aluminum/plastic edge covers.

	When spreading the Elmers glue, pour out from a large container
	(you'll use a lot of glue - buy the 32 oz size, not the small 
	containers), and then smooth with a spreader (the type that are
	used with the auto body filler work very well & can be washed and
	re-used - or a piece of wood, or a 3 inch wide cheap paint brush).
	Get a thin coat on the side & lay the covering material in place.
	Do the outside surfaces before attempting to pull the material
	around the front and back edges of the cabinet. Make sure that you
	have a good staple gun. If using TOLEX, make sure that you work
	your way from one end of the cabinet to another to avoid getting
	air bubbles under the TOLEX. OZITE lets the air thru, so it's not
	a problem.

	Once the outside is done, to the inside edges. The procedure is
	to coat the tolex  where the edge will be pulled over, then
	coat the wood where the staples will be attached. Start in the middle
	of the edge & work your way out to the corners. Use lots of staples.
	Put staples in places where they won't be seen in the final product.

	Finishing corners is an art into itself. I suggest getting corner
	hardware (lots of music stores sell it). This way you accuracy is
	not so obvious.

	Doing the back is just like doing a side & some edges.

	As a side note, I put about 700 staples into a case when I cover it
	(this is a large case & this number includes grill cloth), because
	I expect the case to look perfect when I'm done. Nothing looks more
	sloppy than air bubbles or loose covering material.

	The process for contact cement is similar, except that you paint
	both the covering material and the cabinet with contact cement.
	Let both dry for 20 minutes & then carefully start applying the
	material (you don't get a second chance to move things). Be wary
	of trapped air, so work your way from one end to the other. I
	also use a rolling pin to force good contact. You may find this
	easier going if you have someone to help you. Liberally use staples
	as you would have when using Elmers (they can't hurt).

	I prefer Elmers when possible (it's more forgiving) & holds on
	quite well, you just have to avoid putting too much glue on (it
	soaks right thru OZITE).

								Jens
1676.2VLNVAX::ALECLAIREFri Feb 09 1990 12:561
    Thanks mucho.