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| 1673.1 | ANNOYING AIN'T IT???? | HAMER::KRON | BILL-THE-WONDER-MUTANT | Wed Feb 07 1990 11:25 | 18 |
| yep all the time but I hear it ....not see it on a tuner-
the lower the string is tuned to (and also if you pick the string
near the middle actually stretches the string for a split second
causing the tension on the string to be greater for the amount of
time that it takes the string to return to "normal vibration"
this problem becomes even more evident when using an octave or pitch
shifter because the box will "lock on"to the string's sharper pitch
and in that miniscule amount of time that it takes for the the box
to re-adjust to the correct pitch; it is aggravatingly out of tune!
a simple work-around is to use a heavier string guage- or pluck
closer to the bridge- which will due to the loss of leverage not
allow you to pull the string so far. As far as the use of pitch
shifting goes; either put a noise gate on the input with the attack
time set high or suffer with it!!!
-hope I shed some light;
- BILL
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| 1673.2 | Physics 101 | AQUA::ROST | Everyone loves those dead presidents | Wed Feb 07 1990 11:29 | 8 |
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This is just physics at work. Plucked strings naturally start off
slightly sharp (for the reasons mentioned in .1).
As far as working with tuners, I see this on *all* my strings, all the
time. It's really no big deal.
Brian
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| 1673.3 | WAVE it. | MFGMEM::DERRICO | | Wed Feb 07 1990 12:19 | 9 |
| (Just bouncing it back-)
So if there is a greater amount of tension on the string at that
time, the string vibrates faster until the tension settles?
If your intonation was out, would this make the problem worse?
(THe_one_who_needs_to_review_his_Physics...)
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| 1673.4 | PEG | WEFXEM::COTE | Bain Dramaged | Wed Feb 07 1990 12:58 | 13 |
| Intonation won't effect it.
The pitch change is just the same as hitting the string and then
turning the machine head. The string starts out at one tension and
then drops in pitch a bit as the tension is relaxed.
Drums do the same thing, go flat over time.
I was playing with a friend's Casio guitar controller over the weekend.
The pitch change was real apparent. Not only did it drop, it came back
up a little...
Edd
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| 1673.5 | | BAGELS::KNOX | but now I try to be amused | Mon Feb 12 1990 14:22 | 8 |
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Do you tune your bass using the open strings ??
If you have your intonation set up well, try tuning to the
5th fret harmonic. It gives you a much more even tone with
better sustain. Also, you don't need to pluck the string very
hard to get a steady signal.
/Bill
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| 1673.6 | you maybe right, I may be crazy. | DISCVR::JONEILL | | Wed Apr 11 1990 08:49 | 16 |
| I have a bass tuning question as aposed to a problem. Dir/title
said there wasn't a note and rather than start a new one thought this
might be a s good a place as any to ask. I've been teaching myself
the bass guitar for about 7months now and learn most of my songs from
the radio or recorded music. I've noticed that sometimes I have to
change my tuning from somg to song, maybe band to band is a better
explaination. I'm probably a ways off from playing in a group in
front of anyone but was wondering, do you people that go out and play
now have to change your tunning from song to song or do you play it
from where you start?(huh). I mat have wasted space with this question
and have the answer myself in that the only reason I change is cause
Im the only one out of tune with the record, in a band, I'd already
be in tune with the others so I would'nt have to change. So, is it me
or is this something that everyone does from time to time? Thanks for
listening and any comments are apreciated.
Jim
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| 1673.7 | You're OK, It's The Recordings | AQUA::ROST | Bass is the place | Wed Apr 11 1990 09:31 | 13 |
| Re: .6
No, the only dumb questions are the ones you *don't* ask.
The need to retune when playing along with recordings is because seldom
are two recordings in tune with each other. This is *not* something
you need to worry about when playing with people because (hopefully!)
everyone will get in tune before you get started. You may need to
*touch up* your tuning while playing (strings do go out of tune while
playing, but on bass it's not as bad a problem as with guitars) but,
no, you don't retune for every song.
Brian
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| 1673.8 | one for the old technology | HUNEY::MACHIN | | Wed Apr 11 1990 09:44 | 6 |
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This is another good reason to stick with vinyl until they bring out a
cd player with pitchshift. Just jimmy the pitch control on your record
deck -- it's quicker than re-tuning your bass!
Richard.
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| 1673.9 | | ROYALT::TASSINARI | Bob | Wed Apr 11 1990 09:44 | 13 |
| One other possible reason for being out of tune to record or tape is
that the speed of the turntable or tape deck could be too slow or too
fast.
Since I do the taping for everyone in my band, I try to record so
everyone has the same tuning. It has been embarassing when some folks
learned it in one key, and the others in a different key. Some players
don't like to have to change keys on the fly. 8-)
-1 is correct when he says that when you play in a band you all tune
together and this problem goes away.
Bob
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