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1657.1 | check the valves! | FREEBE::REAUME | 0 to 60 - on 6 strings | Mon Jan 29 1990 11:09 | 5 |
| Oops - this is a TUBE unit. Four glowing 12AX7's. Before someone
tries to compare it to the numerous cheaper solid state units that
are out there I should let you know that would an apple and oranges
comparison. Some of the solid state units out there don't sound
that bad, BUT they aren't a substitute for tubes!
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1657.2 | At NAMM? | CSC32::G_HOUSE | It's just a jump to the left... | Mon Jan 29 1990 11:51 | 5 |
| Did they in fact debut this unit at NAMM last week? I talked to a
friend that was there and he said he didn't see it. If it was there,
it must not have been a show stopper.
Greg
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1657.3 | Anyone care to do some comparisons? | COOKIE::G_HOUSE | Greg House - DTN 523-2722 | Fri Mar 30 1990 19:58 | 15 |
| FWIW there is a short writeup on the SOHO preamp in the New Products
section of either this months or last months Guitar Player.
I hadn't realized it took two rack slots, is the KH Quattro also a two
rack slot unit?
How does this unit (and/or the Quattro, I understand they are based on
the same design) compare with some of the other similar units available
on the market right now, in terms of gain, clarity, noise, crunch? I'd
be specifically interested in how it compares to an ADA MP-1 (which has
only two tubes). I know the basic differences in control layouts, MIDI
compatibility and all that, that's not what I'm interested in. How
does the thing *sound*?
Greg
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1657.4 | | UPWARD::HEISER | Red Sea Beach Club | Mon Apr 02 1990 13:21 | 4 |
| I've also noticed the ads in Guitar World with the all familiar LPMG at
the bottom.
Mike
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1657.5 | they should stick with percussion! | FREEBE::REAUME | siZZle on |||6||| | Tue Oct 15 1991 16:39 | 9 |
| Just got mail from a noter that LPMG is getting out of the
electronics biz and the Soho preamps are being unloaded for
$149 !!!! These are effectively a Quattro clone as mentioned in
previous replies in this topic. If I didn't already have my
Testarossas and Quattros I'd consider one.
Any Vultures out there???
-B()()M-
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1657.9 | | DECWIN::KMCDONOUGH | Set Kids/Nosick | Tue Oct 15 1991 19:26 | 23 |
|
Do we call the sequel "Revenge of LP Music?" 8^)
<<< CVG::WORK3:[NOTES$LIBRARY]GUITAR.NOTE;2 >>>
-< Guitar Notes >-
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Note 1103.24 Kitty Hawk Amplification 24 of 1565
ARCHER::GOODWIN_S 15 lines 2-NOV-1989 00:10
-< distributor, dealer info >-
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Kitty Hawk's exclusive U.S. distributor:
LP Music Group
160 Belmont Ave.
Garfield NJ 07026
(201) 478-6903
"Angelo" handles KH product line (Was Josh....Kevin)
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1657.10 | | FREEBE::REAUME | siZZle on |||6||| | Wed Oct 16 1991 11:30 | 12 |
| I don't wanna know... Seriously, If I was in the market I'd call
to see if this is for real. I have three preamps already AND a GSP-21
that is pretty much a preamp (but it don't glow).
I think that the preamp market pretty much got flooded. LPMG saw
a good thing when the KH Quattro first came out, there wasn't as much
competition back then. Then somebody opened the floodgates. So now
we've got a excess with some good deals to be had.
Good Luck - I'm out of this one!!!
-B()()M-
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1657.11 | | QRYCHE::STARR | We are hope, despite the times.... | Wed Oct 16 1991 15:18 | 5 |
| So - has anyone ever tried one of these babies, or even heard one??? Not that
I can afford it, but it would be nice to have a backup to my Quattro in the
rack, just-in-case.....
alan
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1657.12 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Dances with Timberwolf! | Wed Oct 16 1991 15:32 | 1 |
| I rtied one out...it IS a Quattro in a different package!
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1657.13 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | UNIX is cool... | Wed Oct 16 1991 15:57 | 8 |
| I blew the whistle. I dunno if LP is dealing direct with customers or not.
However I know a dealer who will get them for you but he want's to add a
tarrif for his trouble. he's also the guy who showed me the LP flier.
It's true! But $149.95 was dealer cost.
dbii
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1657.14 | | FREEBE::REAUME | siZZle on |||6||| | Thu Oct 17 1991 15:46 | 5 |
|
Yikes!! Thanx dbii, I'm off the hook. See if anyone takes the bait!
-B()()M-
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1657.15 | | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Thu Dec 26 1991 17:02 | 4 |
| Does anyone know if there are any dealers out there that might still have
one of the SOHO preamps kicking around?
/steve
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1657.16 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu Dec 26 1991 17:13 | 4 |
| I don't know if this will help, but ProSound here in the Springs
has a new one for ~$250... It's a Quattro in a two space-case.
I can get you there number ifin' ya want.
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1657.17 | smells like a deal | CAVLRY::BUCK | | Thu Dec 26 1991 18:16 | 7 |
| >I don't know if this will help, but ProSound here in the Springs
>has a new one for ~$250... It's a Quattro in a two space-case.
Steve, ya might wanna call them and drop a few names...Angela,
LPMG, $149.00 blow-out prices, and see how the dood deals!!
Buck, who said a deal might be had there
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1657.18 | sounds like it's worth a phone call... | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Thu Dec 26 1991 19:40 | 8 |
| Hey JC, Buck,
Yeah, could you post their number and I'll give them a call... even
if I don't end up buying it, I'll reply with any details I can pick
up on... just so we can keep the NIA (noters intelligence agency)
fully informed on all guitar-related developments. 8^)
/Steve_Wilbur_South_of_Houston_etc
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1657.19 | | FREEBE::REAUME | KH/REXX SnoB | Fri Dec 27 1991 11:08 | 5 |
|
I wouldn't call Angelo "Angela", HE might get pi$$ed adn charge you
double!
-B-
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1657.20 | SOHO HO HO... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Tommy The Cat | Fri Dec 27 1991 11:19 | 13 |
| Steve,
The number at ProSound in Colorado Springs (they have other stores in
Denver and Boulder) is (719)597-9962.
Just FWIW, they have a policy (at least they claimed) of never giving
prices over the phone, so I don't know how well you'll do. In
compliance with the DEC noting policy, I'll refrain from saying
anything about my personal opinions of the store. Send mail if you're
interested...
Greg
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1657.21 | oh yeah, don't forget the SFH! | CAVLRY::BUCK | | Fri Dec 27 1991 11:26 | 6 |
| >I wouldn't call Angelo "Angela", HE might get pi$$ed adn charge you
>double!
Whoops! 8^)
Gotta love those typos!! ;^)
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1657.22 | | HEDRON::DAVE | UNIX is cool... | Mon Dec 30 1991 09:01 | 4 |
| Victor Litz mailorder has them for $249. I have no idea what the quantities
available are.
dbii
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1657.23 | | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Tue Jan 07 1992 17:10 | 39 |
| Well... I didn't call Prosound because I had misgivings about trying
to purchase from a store located halfway across the country that wasn't
in the mail order business in the first place.
Instead, I gave our old favorite LPMG a call to see if there might
be any dealers in my area that had the SOHO preamp in stock. The bad
news was that there were no local dealers (apparently not much demand
during the recession.) The good news was that they were quite willing
(at their own suggestion, BTW) to sell them direct at a special price
to retail customers.
So.. you know me (there's a sucker born every minute!)
It arrived via UPS yesterday, in a factory sealed carton. I connected
it thru the power amp section of one of my heads and fired it up. It
works great and I was delighted to find that the four modes do indeed
sound like the KH.
I can't make a comparison w/ the quattro, because I've never heard
one, but I could do an A/B w/ the M1 preamp by running it through
the M1 power section. The main differences from the M1 preamp are
that the SOHO (like the quattro) has a more flexible control layout.
It has six gain controls as opposed to only four on the M1, and the
eq section is four-band in the lead channel rather than the standard
bass, mid, treb on the M1. Another significant difference is that
crunch mode is part of the rhythm channel on the SOHO, whereas it's
part of the lead channel on the M1. But as I mentioned, the sounds
produced by the four modes are very similar to the counterpart M1
modes. There are ventilation slots on the bottom, front and top of
the case which in conjunction w/ the two space format seems to have
eliminated the over-heating problems that some quattros had. I ran
it for 2+ hours last night and it barely got warm to the touch. The
LED mode indicators are intentionally reversed...green is crunch and
red is lead on the SOHO. That should confuse the heck out of me when
switching between it and the M1.
All-in-all, I'm very pleased with my relatively inexpensive new toy.
/Steve
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1657.24 | LPMG price wars begin again! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Tommy The Cat | Tue Jan 07 1992 18:31 | 6 |
| So, Steve...
You didn't answer the burning question on all our minds. How good of a
bargain did you get on the thing?
Greg
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1657.25 | How did I know you'd ask??? | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Tue Jan 07 1992 20:39 | 3 |
| $199.00 plus $4.20 shipping.
It was an offer I couldn't refuse! ;^)
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1657.26 | You knew... | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Tommy The Cat | Wed Jan 08 1992 11:18 | 1 |
| Curiosity killed the bank balance!
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1657.27 | | FREEBE::REAUME | KH/REXX SnoB | Wed Jan 08 1992 11:23 | 11 |
|
That's real hard to pass up - unless you just blew your extra denaros
on Canadian gear. I still think LPMG had the best deals when I consider
what I got. M1 for $350; Testarossa, patch bayette, AND M5 for $600
total!! Now Steve snags a $579 preamp for two bills!!! I paid $300
for my blowout Testarossa (the one I bought before the triple package).
See - there are some good things about the recession! Try buying
Real Estate if you got the bucks, it's a buyers market too!!!!!
-B()()M-
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1657.28 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Wed Jan 08 1992 12:42 | 1 |
| Wow. Thats tempting as HELL !
|
1657.29 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Stay with me tonight... | Wed Jan 08 1992 14:06 | 1 |
| But Jeff, I thought you kind of hated your Quattro?!
|
1657.30 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Wed Jan 08 1992 15:48 | 3 |
| No, I didn't *hate* it... I like my Mp1 better. But the $$ sure are right !
jc (Who probably won't get one)
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1657.31 | no room in my basement! | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Mon Apr 13 1992 10:34 | 21 |
|
Those warehouse cleaners at LPMG must think I've got a line on the
world after what I did with all the KH gear. I received three identical
flyers in the mail from LPMG, all with one sole product to sell:
SOHO Guitar Preamp - BLOW OUT!!!!
The recession beater deal? $149.00 any qty. !!!!!!
AND they included a toll free number so that those calls to New
Jersey don't show up on your phone bill like they did on mine back in
early 1990!
The number? 1 (800) 526-5312
Seems like a great offer while it lasts. Let me see - for what I paid
for the ACCESS, I could have got NINE of these preamps!!! But then I'd
need a bigger rack! B-}.
-B()()M-
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1657.32 | | ZYMRGY::sam | But Momma, that's where the fun is | Mon Apr 13 1992 11:22 | 4 |
| Oh. This is tempting. Does anyone know if the Quatr, er, Soho has a headphone
jack? Or will it at least power headphones from it's line out?
-- Sam
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1657.33 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Mon Apr 13 1992 11:57 | 13 |
|
Nope - no headphone out. But the line out should be able to feed
either a headphone amp unit (there's plenty of those out there) or
into a multitrack unit. I don't think there are many multi-trackers
(if any) without headphone jacks. DON'T put headphones into a line out!
It's not the proper impedance or level. And the other way around -
I've been told that you can damage a headphone out circuit by running
a line out cord into it. Makes sense since the ring/sleeve would
essentially be running into a short. I'm not gonna try it!
FWIW - I use my headphones a LOT with my ACCESS.
-B()()M-
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1657.34 | | ZYMRGY::sam | But Momma, that's where the fun is | Mon Apr 13 1992 13:41 | 6 |
| Thanks Boom. Another question: does the Soho provide different EQ for the
different channels?
Thanks,
-- Sam
|
1657.35 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Breakneck speed is what I need | Mon Apr 13 1992 13:47 | 16 |
| This is the basic SOHO Layout (maybe not exact, but):
CRUNCH TREB MID BASS MASTER CLEAN || PRES BASS MID TREB MASTER GAIN HOT
VOLUME VOLUME VOLUME VOLUME
O O O O - select buttons
Clean Crunch Lead Hot
As you can see, it's basically a two channel units, with two sounds per
channel. Channel A does Fender clean and Fender crunch (dirty fender).
Channel B does Marshall Lead and Boodie-ish HOT (super dist. lead!).
All the sounds are good, cept for the Crunch, which only does a cool
beefy fender thing.
|
1657.36 | Geez Boom, I'll be happy with *1* | SMURF::BENNETT | What goes down the stairs alone or in pairs? | Tue Apr 14 1992 12:00 | 4 |
|
I just called. Mine's on it's way. $149.96 + $6.00 UPS shipping
|
1657.37 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Tue Apr 14 1992 12:40 | 3 |
| Thats pretty cheap for sure...
jc
|
1657.38 | Hmmm...I noticed note 2.* growing | ESBTRX::KALINOWSKI | | Tue Apr 14 1992 13:58 | 6 |
| Coop.......
Could this be why the Marshall preamp is up for sale ?
BK
|
1657.39 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | When the right one comes along | Tue Apr 14 1992 14:06 | 4 |
| RE: BK
Good call!
;')
|
1657.40 | ;-) | FRETZ::HEISER | it won't be long, soon you will see | Tue Apr 14 1992 14:14 | 1 |
| what's funnier is that he had a Quattro and sold it!
|
1657.41 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Tue Apr 14 1992 15:41 | 8 |
| Jeeezzzz... guys - SHADDUP !!
:)
I liked his QT. Thinks I'll like the SoHo too - and it's in a sturdier
package. Thats the only think I didn't like about the QT is it looked like
someone put it together with pliers and a vice.
:)
|
1657.42 | I support Candidate JC | ESBTRX::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Apr 16 1992 07:39 | 10 |
| Common Coopster.....
Ya gatta know I'm the one guy in this conference who'll always take
your side....ADA tone bro. The Marshall is an OK unit but lets face it,
for a bill fifty the SOHO kicks ass.
But it's no REXX 8*) (Oh no... I see a whole new trend developing in
the notes file.)
BK
|
1657.43 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Thu Apr 16 1992 08:48 | 8 |
|
re: -.1
..... this is our own version of "The Price is Right!"
-B()()()M-
|
1657.44 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu Apr 16 1992 09:18 | 7 |
| Yo ToneBro,
For a buck anda half, I'm sure it's a rippin' preamp... Make a fine
backup for my rig. Actually, I've got everything but a power amp for
a backup RACK... Heh-heh.
:)
|
1657.45 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 09:30 | 3 |
| > ..... this is our own version of "The Price is Right!"
Johnny, tell em what they've won!
|
1657.46 | ...and the check is in your mouth! | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Thu Apr 16 1992 14:04 | 10 |
|
...sorry Buck, Johnny Olson's dead. or do you mean me? I'm alive!
...but if my wife know exactly what I paid for the ACCESS I might
be dead! Actually I just told her I was selling a few small things to
buy one big thing. I told her it would cut down on the clutter in my
basement! RIGHT!
B()()()M
|
1657.47 | Johnny? Whos Johnny? Are you Johnny?? | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 14:25 | 10 |
| B()()()M,
You can cut down on the clutter in your basement by giving me your...
- REXX 1602 rack
- REXX 610S rack
- M1 full stack
- ACE Newsletter/Magazine back issues!
8^)
|
1657.48 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Thu Apr 16 1992 14:46 | 17 |
|
No deal Buckmeister!!!!!!!
Tell you what. This note right here is living proof that I reached my
saturation point in GTS. The ACCESS came not that long after the
REXXtras. That's it!!! So no Ho fo me (no SoHo for B()()Mley)!
Tops in "play time" as of late : the Les Paul through the ACCESS rig
or the KH M5 combo for the simpler approach. I can appreciate either
means to the end. My next contrib to a noters tape will use these
pieces!
-B()()()M-
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1657.49 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 14:56 | 1 |
| Those SOHO's are temptin...hmmm...ah, no...well, maybe...
|
1657.50 | | FREEBE::REAUME | I've got a pocket full of 'em! | Thu Apr 16 1992 15:07 | 7 |
| RE: -.1
NAWWW - that man don't do the rack thing!
...saves ya $ on screws and washers!
-Rack-O-BooM-Z
|
1657.51 | How about for use with a bass? | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Thu Apr 16 1992 15:08 | 7 |
| Does anyone an opinion on using one of these beasts as a preamp for a bass?
I'd be using the clean channel only (of course) but am just wondering if a
true bass preamp would have different EQ biasing or whatnot. Looking thru
the "Generic Bass Preamp" note it looks like some of those units are dual
purpose. How 'bout the SOHO?
-- Sam (thinking about building one rack-rig that can do it all)
|
1657.52 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:09 | 5 |
| Well Sam, there is plenty of experience available in here for folks
who want to do the "Rack to do it all" thang !!
Personally, I think you ought to go for an MP1/MB1 combo !
:)
|
1657.53 | :-) | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:12 | 5 |
| (In his best "down Maine" accent:)
Aww-yu, that be why I ask'd.
-- Sam
|
1657.54 | | ESBTRX::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:16 | 8 |
|
Geeze......If I wasn't spending $1100 on a bike, and didn't just buy the
REXX and could afford a new poweramp.....I'd definitely buy one of these.
For 150 clams even if you hated it you could probably make most of your
money back.
BK
|
1657.55 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:17 | 3 |
| -1
What kind of bike are you getting??
|
1657.56 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:25 | 3 |
| Tell me it's Rice, BK !!
:)
|
1657.57 | just say no! | FRETZ::HEISER | haveno shalom alechem | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:26 | 1 |
|
|
1657.58 | Yup a ricer...hey if Harley made dual purpose............
| ESBTRX::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:32 | 6 |
| Welll for those wondering........
It's an 89 Yamaha XT350. Dual purpose...just like Bulldawg Steve D.
BK....also avid DECTRAIL noter thanks to Coop.
|
1657.59 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:39 | 7 |
| Rice? _ /|
\'o.O'
=(___)= Aack!!!
U
Well, dual purpose *is* kind of cool...i like off-road, mud slinging
dirt biking! Wish I had my buddy's old Bultaco...that thing was MENTAL!
|
1657.60 | Best of both worlds...well not really | ESBTRX::KALINOWSKI | | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:44 | 12 |
| Believe me..I love to have a Sportster and a KDX250 And a SoHo/SE50/Mosvalve rig.
My wife would love to have some money in the bank, buy a house and have babies.
We compromise.....I get a dual purpose bike and we keep saving for a house.
By the way......how come babies rhymes with rabies. Brrrrrr not for me
BK
|
1657.61 | | ZYMRGY::sam | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:48 | 4 |
| So (ho), what about those SOHO "bass" amps? (He says, trying to the the topic
back on track... :-))
-- Sam (Lowrider owner, and one who has never been accused of sublety... :-))
|
1657.62 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu Apr 16 1992 16:55 | 8 |
| I don't think the SOHO would be any good for a bass... BBE has a bass preamp
for about $100 (at rice ?), that SCREAMS !
RE: BK
A sporty ? Tsk.Tsk. How about a Hurricane ? 180 outta the box !!
Good taste on the KDX though - note my nodename.
:)
|
1657.63 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 17:03 | 10 |
| >I don't think the SOHO would be any good for a bass... BBE has a bass
>preamp for about $100 (at rice ?), that SCREAMS !
I agree...the SOHO would probably sound farty with a bass into it!
Better off going another route.
RE: Hurricane
Just say NO!
|
1657.64 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu Apr 16 1992 19:07 | 3 |
| Yeah, yeah - "Friends Don't Let Friends Ride Rice" Right Buck ??
jc (A ricer)
|
1657.65 | Hate walking away from a good deal! | EZ2GET::STEWART | the leper with the most fingers | Thu Apr 16 1992 20:37 | 12 |
|
> A sporty ? Tsk.Tsk. How about a Hurricane ? 180 outta the box !!
Yes! I've got 22k miles on my 1 liter rice eater...and I'm one ticket
away from involuntary committment to the clinic for the
velocity-addicted...
But back to the topic at hand...is there any reason I should jump on
this SOHO deal since I already have the Quattro? Reasons like stand
by, hot backup, and/or general GTS don't count.
|
1657.66 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Thu Apr 16 1992 21:16 | 3 |
| >Yeah, yeah - "Friends Don't Let Friends Ride Rice" Right Buck ??
Couldn't have said it any bettah!
|
1657.67 | Preamps, Guitar vs. bass | RICKS::ROST | The Creator has a master plan | Fri Apr 17 1992 07:56 | 28 |
| Re: .51
Man, too many replies flying about...
Sam, in general, bass and guitar preamps have evolved along separate
paths since the days of the Fender Bassman. In addition to having EQ
tuned "lower", most bass preamps these days go for having lots of
headroom, so you can feed in huge amounts of signal and still be
squeaky clean. Most guitar preamps look at headroom as a minus, the
idea is to provide plenty of gain to get distortion. If there was
sufficient headroom to have all that gain *clean* it wouldn't be of as
much interest, eh?
There are some exceptions, such as the Peavey Raxx preamps, where the
T.G. guitar version and T.B. bass version seem just about identical,
except for the EQ frequencies.
Other things bass preamps tend to have that guitar units don't is more
*bands* of EQ, compressors or limiters, crossovers for biamping
(probably a non-issue for you), XLR direct outs.
Actually, a better approach is to get a bass amp and use a guitar
preamp with it. That's because the trend in bass heads is lots of
clean power. For bass, just use the bass head, for guitar, patch
the preamp into the bass head's power amp input...something to think
about.
Brian
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1657.68 | Brian, you're such a wealth of knowledge... :-) | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Fri Apr 17 1992 10:48 | 3 |
| Oooh... That's a good idea! Thanks!
-- Sam
|
1657.69 | Do I smell sushi? | STAR::SALKEWICZ | It missed... therefore, I am | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:03 | 14 |
| re .66 CAVLRY::BUCK "Coaster Master"
> >Yeah, yeah - "Friends Don't Let Friends Ride Rice" Right Buck ??
>
> Couldn't have said it any bettah!
>
So Buck,,, what kind of guitar ado you play again? All this talk
about Rice,.. for shame!!!!
:-)
/Cat_chyalater
|
1657.70 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:05 | 5 |
| Dear Cat-titude...
If there was a USA made guitar that was worth a $#!t imvho, I'd be
playing it. From the looks of it, it may be an Odessey by Hartley
Peavey!!
|
1657.71 | Who Needs A Hockey Stick Anyway? | RICKS::ROST | The Creator has a master plan | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:12 | 3 |
| Nah, Buck you need a TransTrem Steinberger...a real man's guitar!
Brian
|
1657.72 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:14 | 8 |
| > Nah, Buck you need a TransTrem Steinberger...a real man's guitar!
_ /|
\'o.O'
=(___)= Aack!!!
U
|
1657.73 | | CSC32::THOMAS | Traveling is better than arriving. | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:16 | 4 |
| Re .70
How about a Paul Reed Smith. They're made in Maryland...
Lowell
|
1657.74 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:31 | 8 |
| > How about a Paul Reed Smith. They're made in Maryland...
_ /|
\'o.O'
=(___)= Aack!!!
U
I'd rather play a Charvel (which is also wicked gross!)
|
1657.75 | Bush and the Buckmeister | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Give dog a solo! | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:35 | 5 |
| re .70
You'd be in good company Buck. The new Monitor's got a picture of the
Prez visiting the PV factory and he's wailing away on an Odyssey.
Looks like he's plunking out the chords to Freebird :-0
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1657.76 | | CSC32::THOMAS | Traveling is better than arriving. | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:42 | 6 |
| Buck,
And all of this time I thought that I respected your opinion.
Perhaps you SHOULD be playing a Charvel.
Lowell
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1657.77 | Buckley goes to jail...film at 11! | CAVLRY::BUCK | Coaster Master | Fri Apr 17 1992 13:43 | 12 |
| > -< Bush and the Buckmeister >-
...and the next issue of MONITOR would feature a cover pic of Buck
whacking Bush-brains over the noggin with an Odyssey, followed by
a 5150 stack being pushed over on top of him!!!
> Prez visiting the PV factory and he's wailing away on an Odyssey.
Rick, could you save me this copy?? Rumor has it there is an Al
Pitrelli interview in there, and I want to read it!!! Al is my
Berk bud, and I wanna keep tabs on him.
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1657.78 | Mini Review | SMURF::BENNETT | What goes down the stairs alone or in pairs? | Tue Apr 21 1992 13:23 | 43 |
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Well the UPS dude dropped the SOHO QTR-1 at my place yesterday.
First thing I noticed it that it's Made In Hong Kong! Anyway, I
also noticed right away that it's very light. So I went thru
the manual and wired it up and took it for a test drive. Here's
the preliminaries:
o the level control on the output jack make it easy to mate to
the FX return on an amp, the input side of an amp, a board for
recording, or a power amp.
o I hooked it up to the FX return on the Super 60 and walked thru
the channels. My initial readings are that the high gain channels
sound great, there's lots of good harmonic content w/controllable
feedback and the like.
o The clean sound is not "Fender" clean. It's very clean but lacks
the low-midrange warmth that I'm used to from the preamp on the
Super 60.
o The crunch sounds pretty nice but I need to play the EQ a bit to
get enough bottom under it for my taste.
o The best one I got out of it all night was by turning down the
output level control and running the QTR straight into the Bass
channel of my 50wt Bassman. This gave the desired warmth to the
clean channels and gave the high gain channels something I can
only call "authority" - this thing was rippin.
o It sounds like a chainsaw when attached to a tape recorder. I'll
need a 15-band or a speaker emulator to clean it up for recording.
o I opened it up. The design and implementation is beautiful. All
of the wiring was done cleanly. All of the front panel controls
are mounted on 3 separate PCBs - 1 for clean controls, one for
dirty controls and one for the buttons. The tubes (Phillips!! ECC83)
are mounted across the chassis, rotated about 10 degrees off
normal to the floor of the case. It appears that this was done to
create a "chimney" effect that draws cool air into the front, over
the tubes, and out the vents in the top.
o this price can't be beat.
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1657.79 | SOHOw do you work this thing? | ZYMRGY::sam | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Tue May 12 1992 12:50 | 28 |
| Include me among the ranks (rank?) of those who've succumbed to SOHO
blowout induced GTS. Mine was delivered last night after almost 3 weeks
of waiting (ordered on 4/28, delivered 5/11). I've only had a short time
to play with it so far, but am pretty impressed at this point. There
were a couple of things I couldn't figure out however, so figured I'd run
it past all you experts. :-)
A separate sheet included with the manual indicates a change made to the
control layout/function, and states that the Crunch Master volume now
controls only the Crunch channel, and that the Clean Volume is used to
control the overall volume of the clean channel. It would be nice if it
really worked this way. :-) In reality, the clean channel seems to be
under the control of the Crunch Master as well as the crunch channel.
This means that if you set up the crunch channel as indicated (channel
volume up around 8 and master around 2) you get a good crunch sound, but
when you go to clean mode things get very quiet. And if I turn the clean
volume and the crunch master all the way up I still don't seem to be
getting the full performance out of the amp - I'm running this into a
200w power amp, and the clean channel just ain't that loud by itself! In
general I'm having a hard time getting VOLUME out of the clean/crunch
side.
Any suggestions? Other than the above, and the lack of an overall master
volume for all 4 channels :-( I'm pretty happy with my new purchase.
-- Sam
P.S. It sounds pretty good with the bass, too! :-)
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1657.80 | Let me just interject... | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Wed May 13 1992 11:12 | 31 |
| Well, pardon me for interrupting the plethora of replies, but... :-)
Some answers to my own questions after spending more time with this puppy:
I found that the "clean/crunch master" problem is not as bad as I thought.
The crunch master does indeed have some effect over the overall clean
side, but it's not operating as a master volume (exactly) for that
channel. If you turn the master up from 7 to 10 you do get a slight
increase in clean volume, but turning the master down never completely
dampens it. The master does have much more control over the crunch
channel.
Still, however, I'm not able to get a whole lot of volume out of the clean
channel. All the other channels will rattle the windows in my music room,
but even when cranked thru the 200w amp the clean is barely loud enough to
play along with a drummer. I checked the tubes and they're all lit
equally, though dimly.
I think I have found the "ultimate" (this week) way of using the beast
in my setup, though: Putting it in the *effects loop*, along with a
DSP128+, gets me the overdrive and EQ the Soho provides, while also using
all the front end features of the amp I'm using (Peavey MK3 bass head - EQ,
compression, channel switching, etc), not to mention the features of the
DSP. I've still got to tweak the EQ ("I've got so much! What to do with
it all?") but it looks like a weiner to me. All the outboard gear has
both input and output level control, so that helps. This of course all
may change as I play with the unit(s).
(Hey, if Boom can do weird things with his programmable effects loops,
I can put a preamp in mine... :-))
-- Sam (having fun with knobs despite himself...)
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1657.81 | | RAVEN1::BLAIR | What *is* it, Man? | Wed May 13 1992 14:59 | 2 |
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Call their asses up and complain about the clean channel volume!
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1657.82 | | FREEBE::REAUME | H&K/K&H/R&R | Wed May 13 1992 15:05 | 12 |
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Yeah - give them a flashback from the KH warehouse sale days.
Then again, maybe it is just a weak tube, they are easily interchanged
between sockets for troubleshooting! I remember them sending me three
free 12AX7's for my KH gear and all I had said to them was I thought one
was noisy.
Did you get the footswitch with the preamp included in the sale
price?
-B()()M-
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1657.83 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Wed May 13 1992 15:44 | 7 |
| Yeah - Hey Sam - My Kitty Qtr clean channel would blast you thru the
wall on 5 !! (Umm, just don't tell anyone I used a clean channel
once...It was an accident. :).
Swap a tube - if you need a 12AX7 I gotta a whole drawer full of 'em.
jc
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1657.84 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Hearts of the Wild! | Wed May 13 1992 15:46 | 1 |
| Yeah, sounds like a tube to moi. My clean channel was LOUD!
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1657.85 | | ZYMRGY::sam | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Thu May 14 1992 10:39 | 8 |
| Yeah, I'll try the tube swap tonight. I had thought of it, but got sidetracked
on other things (like just playing through the amp... :-)).
Re: Boom, yeah, it came with the footswitch for that price.
Thanks for the replies!
-- Sam
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1657.86 | | KDX200::COOPER | Step UP to the RACK ! | Thu May 14 1992 10:40 | 3 |
| How'd it go Sam ??
jc
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1657.87 | | ZYMRGY::sam | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Thu May 14 1992 10:56 | 3 |
| Easy, Coop. I just entered that note this morning... :-)
-- Sam
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1657.88 | | ZYMRGY::sam | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Thu Jun 04 1992 15:56 | 11 |
| During lunch I went to a few local music stores, and one of them had a used
Soho in the rack marked $175! I didn't tell him you can still get them new
for $150... :-)
I'm slowly learning to use/love mine. Sounds completely different in a "band"
or jamming situation than it does when practicing. It's very bright sounding,
and sounds somewhat harsh to me by itself, but when others are playing it cuts
right through. Tonight I'll be trying it through my new 2x10 cab for the first
time, so it should be interesting.
-- Sam
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1657.89 | Schematic? | LEDS::ORSI | Stimpy's Magic Nose Goblins | Tue Sep 15 1992 07:00 | 6 |
|
Anyone have a schematic, or know where I can get one, for
the Soho unit?
Neal
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1657.90 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Tue Sep 22 1992 06:57 | 12 |
| Yes...me one too? My Address is:
Jay Tashjian
P.O. BOX #189
Worcester, Ma. 01602-0189
I'll pay costs, and be forever gratefull.
Thanx
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1657.91 | Not part of the package | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | Up on Cripple Creek | Tue Sep 22 1992 08:32 | 4 |
| I checked my Soho owner's manual and there are no schematics included,
unfortunately...
-- Sam
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1657.92 | | FDCV09::GOODWIN | | Tue Sep 22 1992 11:18 | 4 |
| from what I can gather, the SOHO is an exact clone of the KH quattro,
so possibly the quattro schematic will suffice?
/Steve
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1657.93 | | LEDS::ORSI | Stimpy's Magic Nose Goblins | Tue Sep 22 1992 11:39 | 7 |
|
>from what I can gather, the SOHO is an exact clone of the KH quattro,
>so possibly the quattro schematic will suffice?
OK, anyone have a Quattro schematic?
Neal
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1657.94 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Wed Sep 23 1992 07:01 | 9 |
| Yup, that's easy.
Send a SASE with a note of what ya need to:
Jay Tashjian
P.O. Box #189
Worcester, Ma. 01602-0189
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1657.95 | "Soho, So Hot" | COMET::LAURICH | | Mon Dec 06 1993 16:55 | 8 |
|
Just picked one of these up. Nice unit(and light too).
This thing does'nt get hot either. Then again, it hasn't been to
10*yet*.
Jeffy
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1657.97 | | LEDS::ORSI | Cuz I *FELT* like it...OK? | Tue Aug 09 1994 11:57 | 11 |
| Steve,
It sounds like a power supply problem, probably the ~15vdc supplying
the relay operating voltage. Also, there should 6.3VAC between pins
4/5 & 9 (pins 4+5 are connected together) and roughly 200VDC between
pins 1 & gnd, and 6 & gnd of all the tubes.
If you can't locate the problem, I could take a look at it for you.
Neal
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