Conference napalm::guitar

In "Hey Joe" I think it's:

	"I gave her the gun. I shot her."

Sort of pun-ish, like.

Per

    This guy really was pretty incredible.  Has anyone seen that
    rockumentary on him?  There's a film of him doing 'Johnny B. Goode'
    that's quite unbelieveable.  He just sort of gets his left hand in
    resonance and jams through the thing...  I always liked the way his
    layed-back voice complements his wild guitar playing style.  What do
    you think the effects on the music world would have been if he had
    lived?  No one has really tried to emulate him, I don't think anyone
    wants to try.  Pete Townshend said no one wanted to go on after him at
    a show, Hendrix should always play last!!
    
    			Steve

    re [.1]
    	I came with a gun -  I SHOT her!
    

I think this is it:


		Wind Cries Mary

After all the Jacks are in their boxes
And the clowns have all gone to bed
You can hear happiness walking on down the street
Footprints dressed in red
And the wind whispers Mary

A broom is drearily sweeping
Up the broken pieces of yesterday's life
Somewhere a queen is weeping
Somewhere a king has no wife
And the wind cries Mary.

The traffic lights they turn blue tomorrow
And shine their emptiness down on my bed
the tiny Island sags on down stream
'Cause the life that was there, is dead.
And the wind screams Mary.

Will the wind ever remember
the names it has blown in the past
And with this crutch, this old age and it's wisdom
The whispers know this will be the last.
And the wind cries Mary.

    re:0,4
    
    Cuz the life that lives, is Dead.

    Friday Jan 12 9:00 p.m EST
    The Arts and Entertainment cable network, will present a documentary
    on Jimi Hendrix, including footage of Monterey and Woodstock, and
    some rare interviews.

    
    
    
    
    
    	Thanks.. a lot... I've got it now... I agree the guy was a scary
    player... I never really tried to learn his stuff when I was a kid
    playing in bands.. just kinda faked in in whatever blues box was
    handy..  Now that I'm really working at it, I'm amazed.. simple stuff
    like 3rds in the bass on major chords.. and playing up the neck with
    ones right hand aren't as easy for me as they look.  His raised 9th is
    a cool sound too...  Truly amazing player when it comes to phrasing
    too.. his intro to Hey Joe is just right..  Wish I could express myself
    like that.
    
    Regards and thanks again...
    
    Steve

    re: .7
    
    Steve, one thing Hendrix had going for him is the fact that he had
    *HUGE*, *LONG* fingers.
    
    If you've ever seen videos of him playing, he rarely moved his hand
    that much, yet his digits were all over the fretboard.
    
    cheers/mike

    I read somewhere several years ago that Jimi was very bashful about
    his vocals.  He'd go into an isolation booth and turn his back on
    everyone in the studio.  When he was finished laying down the vocal
    track, he would turn around and kinda shyly say "uh, was that OK?"
    Kinda hard to picture.

    
    	Well, vocals weren't his strong point. 
    

	Does anyone remember reading something about Hendrix right before
    	he died when he was telling how he was not proud of his playing
        or any of the music he'd produced up to that point, even that
        he was embarrased, and wanted to start playing like everyone
        else?  I think it was the late Brian Jones who he was confiding
    	this too.  
    	How could anyone with his enormous talent be ashamed of his
        music?

    I can't answer the question for you, but it seems that from time
    to time artists sort of "give up" there old material for a new
    direction.   In the case of Jimi Hendrix, not too long before he
    died, he was doing some studio work with John McLaughlin.  Maybe
    he was moving toward the jazz/jazz-fusion genre and away from rock
    and R&B...
    
    	joe.

    RE: .12
    
    Kinda makes we wonder what kind of music Jimi would be playing today
    if he were still alive.
    
    cheers/mike

	I seem to remember from the Jimi Hendrix special issue of Guitar
	Player magazine an article talking about how he had been working
	on some new style of music.  I believe that the floppy disk 
	record included in the issue with a song called "Beginnings" was
	suppossed to be some sort of intro into what he was leaning towards.
	I believe that "Beginnings" has been included on a later record
	somewhere, but I don't know which one.

	_gary

    
    
    
    		Jimi, chose to use a lot of chemicals over dealing with
    life on life's terms.  It's not unusual for persons who use in order to
    avoid feelings to be really insecure about their lives, let alone their
    life's work...   I'm not surprised to hear that he felt insecure about
    his performance... even while he was being receiving acclaim for his
    music.  I look back and wish I'd paid more attention to him.. I did see
    him live, and it was scary.... now the more I listen to his music the
    more I'm amazed at his genius at phrasing guitar pieces.. gawd!
    

    
    I remember reading an article somewhere that quoted him (second
    hand) as saying he was a bit tired of the psychedelic-acid-rock
    image and that he felt locked in to that.
    
    It said he wanted to get back to more straight ahead R&B and play
    other kinds of music. 
    
    Didn't he start out playing backup in Little Richard's touring band?  
    Maybe he missed those days. Who knows?
    
    Bob

    He did play for Little Richard and also, I believe, the Everly
    Brothers.  Quite the talent, huh?  Try this:  Listen to "Hey Joe" and
    learn the solo.  Then play it.  Not that hard, right?  Now, try to make
    it sound just like Jimi, and I don't really mean the tone.  I mean the
    phrasing and inflection on the notes.  Sounds so simple, but I've never
    heard it done.  That was his gift.  It's not just coincidence that
    we're talking about it in a notes conference twenty years later.
    
    Will
                                              

    
    re: .17
    
    Isley Bros. not the Everlys.  

    That'd be something.  Hendrix playing on "Hello Mary Lou" ;^)
    
    Actually, you can hear Hendrix' influence in a lot of later Isley
    Brothers stuff ("Who's That Lady?" comes to mind).  Does anyone
    know if Jimi was on any of the Isley recordings?

    
    
    
    .17  Yes, Will, exactly the way I feel except I wasn't eloquent enough
    to phrase it... Heck I can't even get the INTRO to Hey Joe to sound
    right!!  When I SEE him play the stuff in movies, he's just kinda all
    layed back and relaxed and it's just flowing out.  I made the mistake
    of telling my teacher that what I'd really like to do was learn to play
    a few sons on the "Are You Experienced" album and his reply was: "NO
    SHIT!  Me Too!"  <grin>  The man was one hell of a chord player, cos I
    don't see him playing any scales.
    
    
    Steve

    Man, I knew Everly Brothers didn't feel right when I typed it.  Oh
    well...
    
    Will

    Classic quote from the movie:
    
    Dick Cavette: "Do you consider yourself disciplined, I mean, do you get
    up and work every day?"
    
    Jimi: "Well, I try to get up every day."

    
    I thought the movie was great!  Lot's of good footage of Jimmy playing,
    too.  
    
    One thing is for certain.  If Jimmy were alive today and still played
    his '70s material, he would definitely have a guitar with a locking
    whammy on it.  After some heavy whammy use it was kind of fun to watch
    him figure out which strings he could still use and how far he'd have
    to bend them to get to pitch.
    
    Kevin

    I liked the quote about the National Anthem when Jimi played at
    Woodstock; something like:
    
    Dick Cavett: "Have you recieved alot of criticism for playing the
    National Anthem the way you did at Woodstock"
    
    Jimi: "Why? I thought it was beautiful"
    
    Audience: laughter and applause!

    
    
    My most favorite quote:
    
    Interviewer: Do you use gimmicks?
    
    Jimi: Gimmicks!!!? The whole world's a gimmick!!... War!, 
          napalm bombs!...
    					    yes we do use em.
    
    
    Mark_who_has_many_gimmicks_but_still_don't_sound_like_MR._JH

    Saw an article on Miles Davis that mentioned Hendrix.  Miles mentioned
    that he was listening to Sly and Hendrix a lot around '69, and that he
    tried to get Jimi to show up for an informal session or something.  But
    Jimi was too shy, and very self-conscious around the jazz players, and
    wouldn't do it.  Miles mentions something about Jimi being a natural,
    or was it a primitive -- I guess in terms of finding his way according
    to his ear without the formal grounding of some of the jazz players,
    like McLaughlin.  Hope Jimi at least recognized and appreciated their
    keen interest in him...   - Jay

    P.S.  Since Hendrix (like Miles it seems) worried a lot about being out
          of touch with the black audience, it's interesting to note his
          influence on black pop after his death, from P-Funk to Prince.

    In the new Guitar Player, Jeff Beck talks a little about Jimi in the
    interview with him and Stevie Ray Vaughn.  (A very interesting
    interview BTW...)
    
    Greg

    
    well if jimi was talking with Brian Jones the night before he died,
    than sounds like ole' jimi got a preview of club dead. Brian swallowed
    his pill in 68.  
    
    	bs
    

	Hendrix was just getting into new types of music when he died. 
	It would have been fabulous to hear what he was going to do.
	He had been playing around in the studio with a lot of 
	jazz musicians, especially Roshn (sp?) Roland Kirk, (the guy
	who plays two horns in his mouth at the same time.)  Nine to
	the Universe has some tapes from this time, but they didn't 
	pick the jazz oriented ones for release. Still
	it's kind of interesting to hear a new direction starting
	on that album. 

	When he died, Hendrix had two interesting gigs lined up.
	One was to play on an all-instrumental arrangement of
	Hendrix tunes by Gil Evans. Hendrix was scheduled to 
	do this just days after he died. Gil Evans went ahead
	and recorded the album anyways, using a Japanese jazz guitarist
	whose name slips my mind right now. I have a tape of
	this album, and its a real shame that Hendrix couldn't
	have been on it himself. The jazz arrangements, with
	complete horn sections, of real familiar Hendrix tunes
	are just great; it would have been even better with
	the real Hendrix sound.

	The other interesting gig that he had lined up was to
	record an album with Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, and
	this would have been real interesting. The album was
	going to be called H.E.L.P. and would have been awesome,
	I think. ELP really needed a screaming guitar back
	then and although I don't think the band would've
	lasted long (it probably would've been Jimi's Blind Faith)
	it would have been new ground. Think about this possibility
	the next time you hear an ELP tune. (especially if the
	synth solo turns you off.)

	If Jimi were alive today, he would have made an album with
	Miles by now. Miles wouldn't have allowed him to get 
	away with not doing it. Mike Stern was Mile's guitarist
	for awhile (late 70's, early 80's) and he says Miles used
	to come over to his  amp, turn it way up, and say
	"Play rock and roll, damn it!"
	Think what would have happened if Jimi Hendrix were 
	on the other end of that amp. 

    Heard on the news this morning that one of Hendrix' strats (the one
    he used to play the star spangled banner at Woodstock) sold at an
    auction for a mere $320,000!!
    
    Sheesh!  Must be nice to have money!
    
    Mike

The one he lit on fire ???

    re .31 ....no
    
    re .30  Only $325k....that seems cheap.....someone must have needed the
    money pretty bad :^)
    

    I read somewhere that the stratocaster that Hendrix lit on fire, he
    gave to Frank Zappa.
    
    Of course, he's more than likely lit more than one strat on fire!
    
    ;^)
    
    Mike

    The guitar was sold by Mitch Mitchell - Hendrix gave it to him a few
    days before he died (there's an interesting article about it in this
    month's Making Music, for you UK noters). Apparently, although Hendrix
    used to mix and match his guitars, this one was a particular favourite.
    
    Nick

    
    
      Zappa was on the cover of GP a while back with one of Jimi's
    burnt guitars. Still looked playable.
    
    
    
    RC
    

    Anyone catch the Beach Boy movie on ABC last night?  It had an interesting 
    scene where the whole group sat around watching the TV, which showed
    Jimi "lighting one up" ;-)
    
    Mike

    Today is Jimi's Birthday.
    
    Joe-off-to-listen-to-his-Winterland-CD

    
    	Hey, that Winterland CD is really good.  I was surprised at the
    quality of the recording  - especially being a live event.  Isn't 
    there a version of Sunshine of Your Love on it too?  Good stuff.
    
    -pat

Article 954 of clari.news.music:
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: clari.news.law.investigation,clari.news.music
Subject: Report Hendrix death probe to reopen
Date: 8 Sep 91 21:01:27 GMT
Priority: regular


	LONDON (UPI) -- A newspaper reported Sunday authorities will reopen
their investigation into the death of rock legend Jimi Hendrix 21 years
ago, but Scotland Yard said it had not yet received a coroner's written
request in the case.
	The trailblazing guitarist, who soared to fame with his '60s group
The Jimi Hendrix Experience, died in London on Sept. 18, 1970, at age
27, choked on his own vomit after taking sleeping pills and alcohol. A
coroner's inquest recorded an open verdict.
	Two women who knew Hendrix told the News of the World Sunday that
Hendrix's girlfriend, Monika Dannemann, delayed calling an ambulance for
the ailing musician, instead calling first to singer Eric Burdon, a
member of the Animals rock group who was influential in launching
Hendrix's career. Dannemann denied the delay, the report said.
	Kathy Etchingham, one of Hendrix's lovers, and Dee Mitchell, who is
married to Experience drummer Mitch Mitchell, said their efforts had led
the coroner, Dr. Paul Knapman, to ask Scotland Yard to reopen the case
on Monday.
	Knapman could not be reached for comment, but Scotland Yard said it
had no written authorization as of Sunday.
	``This is apparently based on a note from the coroner's office, but
we have no knowledge of this letter,'' a spokesman said. ``We will
advise you tomorrow (Monday) or whenever we get it.''
	Hendrix is credited with creating some of the greatest music of the
rock era with songs like ``Voodoo Chile'' and ``Purple Haze'' as well as
raising standards of guitar playing and production to still-unrivaled
heights. As the legend grew of the African-American and Cherokee Indian
musician from Seattle, so did the questions about the circumstances
surrounding his death.
	Allegations also have arisen that Hendrix was still alive when an
ambulance took him to the hospital, with Experience bassist Noel Redding
writing in his recent book that the star died at the hospital, not at
Dannemann's apartment where he got sick.
	But Etchingham, 45, and Mitchell, 39, said the two ambulancemen told
them Hendrix was dead when they arrived at the apartment in London's
Westminster section.
	``We just want to establish the truth,'' Etchingham said, adding she
still grieves for the musician.
	``Jimi was an important part of my life. There has never been a
guitarist like him,'' she said. ``He could still be alive today. He
could be married with kids. He could have made some money and had a
comfortable life. But he didn't get a chance. That's what rankles.''
	Dannemann, who also has said Hendrix was still alive then he was
taken from her flat, told the newspaper she would welcome a new
investigation. ``It's really great. I always thought the police could
have looked at it better,'' she said.
	Etchingham and Mitchell said the new probe would focus on the alleged
delay in calling an ambulance. They showed Coroner's Court papers
granting Etchingham access in June to official reports of the tragedy.
	An inquest 10 days after Hendrix died ended with then-coroner Gavin
Thurston recording an open verdict. Near where Hendrix had lain, nine
sleeping pills powerful enough for two doses per tablet were missing
from a bottle, the report said. Alcohol also was found in his system.

    A warning to our non-UK readers. Take this with as many pinches of salt
    as you require, since the News Of The World cannot be even remotely
    described as "quality press".
    
    Cheap sensationalism, now that's another matter....
    
    Nick

re .-1 > Cheap sensationalism, now that's another matter....
    
Seconded...

Also they seem to have confused Eric Burdon with Chas Chandler (who was
the bass player with the Animals, and later Jimi's manager).

*DC

    This might be blasphemy and it might just be me, but the more I hear of 
    Jimi's material, the more unimpressed I become.  Don't get me wrong, he's 
    really great on some of the real popular songs.  However, a lot of the 
    stuff that doesn't get airplay seems to be pretty lame and strange.
    
    Mike

	But after he died someone got the bright idea to release anything
	that he recorded, no matter what it was. A great percentage of this
	is mediocre or deserves to be left out in the rain. I think that
	this garbage mixed into the classic work that he did colors a lot
	of your feelings. I never bought any of the after death releases,
	but I can still hear in my mind some of his earlier works (it must
	be good, otherwise why would it still be so clear to me over 20 
	years after I first heard it). People want to make a buck - there
	are reasons not to release a lot of poor efforts - I'd sure hate to
	be remembered based on something that I decided never to release.

							Jens

    RE -1: agreed

    There are but three real Jimi Hendrix albums. You may find an occasional
    track outside of them that offers something interesting. I heard a
    recording of Red House on the radio once that impressed me but aside
    from that the posthumous stuff is bad. Especially the live stuff where
    he's so f^cked up he can't play and all he tries to do is pander to the
    "let's boogie" mentality of the crowd.

    I heard "All Alone th Watchtower" on my way into work the other day and
    couldn't get over what an excellent rendition of the song it is. It's a
    gem. Listen to the first three albums: Are You Experienced? AXIS: Bold
    As Love and Electric Ladyland. Sure there's a few throw-aways on 'em but
    you can't miss his genius. Listen to the little things like the title
    track of Electric Ladyland. The finess of his rhythm work and
    embellishments is unbelievable.

    Also bear in mind that at the time Hendrix broke things wide open for
    electric guitar. I mean WIDE OPEN!

    The other part of the picture on the live stuff is that recording and
    sound reinforcement were not that good in the late sxities.  The
    massive sound systems we see today were unheard of.  Then add in the
    problems of playing in a trio setting without benefit of all the modern
    technology of today (I mean, go check out a Fuzz Face or Univibe
    sometime...you might be surprised how primitive they are) toss in a
    little bit of hallucinogenics and you've got stuff like "Isle of Wight"
    which is mostly garbage or "Band of Gypsys" which is actually pretty
    good in sections where Buddy Miles keeps his mouth shut.  The
    Winterland CD is quite good if you can tune out Noel Redding stumbling
    through the songs.
    
    It's sometimes hard to really hear innovators 20 years or more after
    they arrived, since their influence is felt everywhere, and what was
    once really different is now commonplace. 
    
    The real meat of Jimi for me is stuff like "Little Wing", "Angel",
    "Pali Gap"...the more impressionistic things.  Actually, in that
    respect, "Axis: Bold as Love" is the real essential Jimi release. To
    some extent, Robin Trower and Stevie Ray Vaughan on their first few LPs
    picked up on that side of Jimi's playing.  I can't imagine  "Bridge of
    Sighs" or "Lemmy" being written if Hendrix hadn't been around.
    
    						Brian

>   ..."Axis: Bold as Love" is the real essential Jimi release.
    
    Brian, agreed - absolutley 100% right. Also, let's not forget that Jimi
    Hendrix wasn't just a guitar player, he was a musician in the best sense
    of the word. Where he took the time to refine something, it was crafted
    with a passion for excellence.

    Funny you should mention Isle of Wight.  This has been in the media
    lately because a movie of concert footage was just released.  Based
    on the poor live tracks released on record, the rap was that this
    was Jimmy days before his death, an artist in decline.  But reviewers
    who've seen the new footage say it sheds a whole new light on things.
    The new previously unheard stuff is supposedly very good; Jimmy pushing
    the music in new directions.  The explanation is that Polydor did a
    quick hack job to cash in on Jimmy's death, and released all the "hits"
    from the show, which just happened to be all the dreck tracks.  Maybe
    he was just sick of playing them.
    
    Anyway, I'm anxious to check out the new stuff for myself.  It's
    supposed to be released on video in a package along with the entire
    Woodstock and Band of Gypsies sets.
    
    /rick

  I think you have to listen to the pioneers 'in context'. If you listen to
 what other musicians were doing at that time then you would understand the 
 genius he was.

  Compare him to now and you may arrive at 'ah, he ain't so great'.


    - Bob

    I had the great good fortune to have caught one of his performances, at
    the Randall's Island (NY) show in the summer of 1970...
    
    I have recently begun to revisit his genius.  Now that I am more
    "electric guitar-literate" than ever before, I no longer see Hendrix as
    some kind of wizard who could create supernatural sounds.  Instead I
    see him more and more as a real person who started out with the same
    "equipment" as anyone else, but who did things with it that had never
    been done before (or in quite that way since, with Trower and SRV
    sometimes getting close).  And that realization makes me respect his
    work, his talent, and his genius even more.  Even wizards have "off"
    days, though.  :7)
    
    \Gary

    Personally I love Jimi's stuff, even the hacky posthumous recordings
    (well, most of 'em anyway).  Yeah, he made mistakes and stuff, but so
    what?  Shows me that there was a real *person* playing there.  Some of
    the stuff out now is so perfect you couldn't tell if a real person
    played it or if it was pieced together with samples and a sequencer.
    
    Jimi's playing displayed a lot of emotion and that's one of the things
    that really turns me on about music.
    
    gh, who likes real music played by real people

>                                                                ...Some of
>    the stuff out now is so perfect you couldn't tell if a real person
>    played it or if it was pieced together with samples and a sequencer.
    
    
    Real close to the truth - that's why big studios slave two 24 track
    decks together, or use one of the monster 48 track machines - lots of
    the guitar "solos" we hear today are composites pieced together from 20
    different takes.  If Jimi were around today we probably wouldn't
    appreciate the consumate craftmanship he was able to pull together,
    even in times of personal crisis.

    RE .47
    
    I just saw the Isle of Wight film at the Somerville Theater (Mass).  I
    didn't show an artist in decline at all, IMO.  It showed that Jimi was
    majorly POed with the sound that night.  The songs looked and sounded
    at least crisp as the Monterey period, again IMO.  All in all I thought
    it was a very good show.  After listening to the movie I am more sure
    than ever that some of the songs from "In The West"  were recorded
    there.
    
    J, lefty and loooooooooooooong time hendrix fan

The thing that always put me off Jimi's live material at the time (as well
as the dubious sound quality) was the fact that he always seemed to have tuning
problems (due no doubt to whammy abuse and string bending).
It's easy to forget that when these tracks were recorded, electronic/strobe
tuners weren't available, and locking nuts hadn't been thought of.

I'd second that much of the studio material still sounds excellent.
*DC

    
    re -1
    Conn Strobo-tuners have been around for decades, it's just that
    practically nobody used them to tune guitars back then.

    I saw Hendrix twice. Neither was a very memorable show. His shows with
    the experience were very visual but suffered musically. Later on, with
    Band of Gypsis, when he was trying to focus on the music, he seemed to
    have trouble generating much excitement on stage.

    Re: sound
    I don't remember exactly what they used the first time I saw them but
    the second time I saw them they used a pair of Sunn Colosiums for Boston
    Gardens.

    Of all the R and R I love and cherish...Hendrix's Red House is probably
    my all time favorite tune.
    
    What a song. The emotion is so intense.
    
    There's a Red House over yonder...and that's where my baby stays.
    
    PC

    Hi,
    
    I've been seeing this 'new' Hendrix CD set out called Stages.  It's
    about $45 at Lechmere.  That is too pricey to buy without a set list. 
    Especially considering that there is NO set list on the box, kinda
    suspicous I think...  Anybody outthere got a set list on this?
    
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    
    Joe

    
I noticed in .45 that Brian mentioned "Pali Gap". I didn't think anybody else
knew about that one. Great instrumental to "float" on. Anyway, after listening 
to it over and over I still can't get the opening much less the rest of it.  
    
Are there any guitar books, in the Mass., NH areas, that have this 
transcribed or if anybody knows it and would like to reply on or off line 
it would be appreciated.

thanks,

Paul

    Omigawd, heresies of heresies....
    
    Noel Redding sez in the latest Fender Frontline mag that Jimi's Strat
    went bellyup when it came time for an early session, so he used Noel's
    *Tele* for "Fire" and "Purple Haze".
    
    So lemme get this straight, Jimi had a Strat in all those photos, and
    Jimmy Page used a LP onstage, but when the red light was on in the
    studio, they both reached for a Tele!  Come to think of it, there's
    some shots of Clapton in his Blind Faith days with a Tele, and Beck
    with the Yardbirds...
    
    This could rock the whole vintage market if word gets out  8^)
    
    						George Grunt

    Hey George...I mean Brian, I going to need a seat belt if you keep
    putting these notes in here. That's two in a row that made me almost
    fall off my chair.

    But doesn't 'Purple Haze' have a little whammy work at the end? You
    know, in the fade when Jimi's saying
                            "Puuuuurrrrrrpppllle haaaazzzzzzze".

    --Ron

    Thanks guys.....now I GOTTA have a Tele!  As if the Helecasters CD
    didn't make me want one.........
    
    8^)
    
    Steve

re: .59

>    But doesn't 'Purple Haze' have a little whammy work at the end? You
>    know, in the fade when Jimi's saying
>                            "Puuuuurrrrrrpppllle haaaazzzzzzze".

But Ron, you don't *need* a whammy bar on a Tele, you just bend
the neck!  (Only half kidding)

-Hal

    Right, Hal. I snapped the bar off my Strat in '68 covering "I Don't Live
    Today" (I've calmed down a hair since then) so from that point on (for
    the next 20 years actually) I'd grab the headstock and the upper bout
    and push for bend effect. Finally, in '88 I fixed the tremelo.

    --Ron

    Great to see there's still some interest in Jimi out there!!
    
    Some of the "boots" are well worth checking out and feature some fine
    playing - both in the studio and live.
    
    e.g
    Mauii - August 1970 
    
    Band Of Gypsies (rehearsals & unreleased stuff from the 4 gigs)
    
    L.A Forum - both 1969 & 1970
    
    'MLK' - the live tribute played by Jimi as the only piece in a gig -
    shortly after 'MLK' was killed - contrary to popular reports this IS
    available!!!!!!!!!
    
    Studio out-takes from 1969/70 - including several takes of Freedom,
    Drifting, Angel etc.... at various stages of development.
    
    In fact anything that Alan Douglas has'nt touched is probably worth a
    listen !!!!!!!!!!!
    
    I saw him twice - Coventry Theatre & The Isle of Wight (where it was 
    obvious from his tone and generally "knackered" state that he desperately
    needed a long rest!)
    
    The guy was a genius, not just as a guitar player - but as a musician
    and generator of sounds and feelings - a "one off". Just wait till
    September 1995 - 25th Anniversary releases etc.......
    
    Cheers
    
    Paul  

    Rick Calcagni was kind enough to loan me "Blues" and boy am I glad he
    did so I won't have to waste $12 on this stupid thing....the packaging
    and liner notes is boffo, but the music is weak. 
    
    Because of the repackaging/label changes over the years causing Jimi
    material to wander in and out of print, this package gives us some
    stuff that *used to* be available elsewhere (two versions of "Hear My
    Train", the UK "Red House") as teasers, then adds in some outtakes and
    jams.  Overall, this is one of the worst official Hendrix albums I've
    heard yet.  I could only recommend this to someone who has all the
    other offical albums already and is a completist.  As a package to
    prove Jimi was a big mojo bluesman, it falls a bit short mostly because
    a lot of the stuff is just uninspired (to my ears).  
    
    Meanwhile, where's the Woodstock and Atlanta material that came out
    shortly after Jimi died on those festival compilations?  Will "Band of
    Gypsies" ever get reissued on CD?  Boy, this situation is so sorry it
    makes me wanna pull out my copy of "Crash Landing" or even "Live with
    Lonnie Youngblood, Volume Four".  
    
    Waiting for the Kurt Cobain blues album next  8^(
    
    							Brian

    
    
    Band of Gypsies is out on CD...I've had a copy for at least a year...
    
    

>    Band of Gypsies is out on CD...I've had a copy for at least a year...

     Hmmm.....it's not listed in the Noteworthy catalog. Do you have
     the label and catalog # of the CD handy? I'd like to get a copy.

     Neal

    My buddy just told me about a friend of his that has a European BoG
    release that has some odd additional tracks on it.

    I've not been very impressed by any Hendrix tracks since Electric
    Ladyland. I don't think Jimi would have released any of that stuff in
    the state it was in. The live tracks are 98% garbage. Sounds like he
    couldn't even tune up in the condition in which he took to the stage.
    I can't even listen to these sides for more than a couple minutes,
    although Radio One has a few interesting takes.

    Somebody (Beautiful People) has a new release out using heaps of guitar
    and vocal samples from the Wind Cries Mary. (still the most exquisite
    guitar solo of all time)

>     Hmmm.....it's not listed in the Noteworthy catalog. Do you have
>     the label and catalog # of the CD handy? I'd like to get a copy.

    Hey, Neal, you probably couldn't find it because they mis-spelled
    Gypsies.  It's on Polydor, I guess the catalog number is 821933-2 --
    there's a little Y and H in boxes after the number, if that matters.
    
    

    Polydor?  Sounds like an import to me, where did you find it?  While
    Polydor was Jimi's label elsewhere, in the US they never issued any of
    his stuff and that album in fact was owned by EMI due to a contractual
    snafu dating from Jimi's tenure with Curtis Knight.
    
    							Brian

    That could be the Euro release I referred to in .67.

    
    
    
    Well, the back cover does say that it was printed and pressed in West
    Germany...so maybe it's a little older than I realized...  When did the
    wall fall???  I'm sorry, I don't remember where I got it, but it's
    either from a local (So CA) store or from the CD service of the
    National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences (NARAS).
    
    

    I've seen the BoG CD several times in local shops (Tower, Newbury).
    It carried a $26+ price tag (which is why I didn't buy it).  I'm pretty
    sure it did have extra tracks.
    
    I have a video of the entire Woodstock set; it's incredible.
    Among other things, some cool fusion-type jams and one of the best
    versions of Voodoo Chile anywhere.  If you're a Jimi fan, this is
    about as close as you can get to the real thing.  It's obviously from
    the same source as the Star-Spangled Banner footage, i.e. excellent
    audio and video (my only complaint, too much focus on Jimi, not enough
    band shots; however, I think I did spot Ron Burati in the crowd :-).
    If you've only heard the movie and album stuff, you've missed a lot;
    recommended.
    
    Anyone seen BoG and Isle of Wight videos anywhere?  These were also
    rumored to be coming out sometime.
    
    /chas

    I hope the Woodstock cinematographer is working as a shoe salesman
    today. I get clostraphobia (?) from that film. Talk about tight shots.
    Actually, it looks a lot like some (irritating) modern day TEEVEE ads.
    As hard as I tried, I could not get in the frame.

    --Zelig

    Enfin un topic sur Hendrix!!
    
    	Hi,
    	
    I'm a big fan of Hendrix and I try to learn his music...I'm a beginner,
    I play guitar since 4 years only...(I have a Strato Us Standard..)
    
    I'm looking for tablatures (or just the chords) of Red house, Purple
    Haze, and Manic depression... (L'ai-je bien �cris? je verifierais tout
    � l'heure.)
    If someone can help me...
    	
    		Thanks,
    
    			-Fred-
    

    
    
    Picked up a "Jimi Hendrix: Woodstock" laser disc the other day.  Has
    footage that didn't make it into the movies.  The sync sucks, in parts,
    though...  I hate it when they just edit stuff in, manage to get the
    beat right, and hope that no-one notices that the insert is from a
    different place in the song...
    
    

    
    	Of the 3000+ files in here ( and myself just coming on line ) I	
    	find it incredible that there is not more conversation on one of
    	the greatest guitar players ever. I'm wondering if there is anyboby
    	out there who has been influenced by this man as much as I have,
    	and if so, drop me a line. 
    
    	Does anybody out there collect Hendrix material...?
    	CD's, albums, boots, video.
    	
    	I would be interested in trading, swapping.  or even some
    	information on how to obtain hard to find items.
    
    
    	Thanks.
    
    
    
    KEVIN , Ottawa
    

    
    	Wow.  Sounded like quite the "Experience". Another interesting
    	thing is we should all know where we are in relation to each other.
    
    	sam from ________
    	
    	note .3 from __________
    
    	Do you still have the jackplate from the strat.
    
    	The only experience I have is braking a string on
    	Alex Liefson when he came to Ottawa back in March 1985.
    	He came to the edge of the stage on his knees and I
    	and four other people grabbed the guitar.
    
    	Later,
    
    
    					TITAN
    

    
    Don't know how great this is but here it goes.  I was station in Idaho
    back in 69 during the release of Electric ladyland. I always had Jimi
    blasting in my room. Well one day this guy knocks on my door and asked
    if I'd like a copy of the original electric ladyland album with nude's
    I only had seen the cover with Jimi in a blurr. Seems, now this is his
    story, the original cover was to obscene for US sales. This guy's 
    brother worked at a record distribution center and had taken two of the
    albums and sent them to the guy knocking on my door, he thought it
    would be nice to have one on the west coast and one on the east coast.
    
    I've still got it.
    
    Gordie

re: toppling stacks

Yes but it was Ritchie Blackmore...and he toppled two stacks with one blow of
the strat....

dbii

    
    	Can anybody tell me if Electric Ladyland was repressed
    	with the original Naked Ladies cover.  If so when and 
    	how many?  If not, how many were originally pressed?
    	I recently acquired a copy and was wondering if it was
    	an original.
    
    		Thanks Kevin, Ottawa.
    

    I coulda bought one of those about 20 years ago but I knew
    my mom would find it if I brought it home (even if I stuck
    it under my mattress :-)) so I passed. Bad move.

    I recall seeing copies with this cover in stores not too long ago,
    back in the 80's when vinyl was still available.  They may have
    been imports.

    	Has anybody heard anything about a Hendrix benifit that is
    supposedly happening this summer in seattle to help raise $ to get his
    estate back into the family?????
     	Does anybody have any info on that movie thats supposedly in the
    making?
        And lastly, any info on his next CD would be interesting.
    Apperently there finally going to release 'First Rays of the New rising
    Sun', the duoble album he was working on just before he died. Although
    there is going to be some tracks that are already available on CD,( I
    heard it will be a compilation of 'Cry of Love' and 'Rainbow Bridge')
    it sure will be awsome to hear tracks like Pali Gap and Earth Blues in
    CD format!
    
    Kevin 
    

    	Just a follow up to that last note.....
    
    The guy that plays Ike Turner in the Tina Turner movie (life of--
    pretty good show), is the same actor that is playing Hendrix!
    
    The new CD was dated for release in Jan.'95.
    
    Kevin

    
    	Laurence Fishburne.
    
    							GTI
    

    	We meet again GTI...
    Not sure what his name is but I'll take your word for it. 
    
    I thought he did a pretty good job with Ike's character, hope he does
    o.k. with Jimi's.....
    
    Kevin F

    At Woodstock '94, in the middle of Carlos Santana's set he brought out
    Jimi's daughter to speak to the crowd.  She proceeded to piss and moan
    about how her dad and his estate have been ripped off over the years
    (no doubt true, but it seemed like the wrong time/place to me, just
    imo) and then mentioned the first annual Jimi Hendrix Memorial
    festival to be held next (now this) summer in Seattle, Jimi's hometown.
    At least part of the money is intended to go to Hendrix's estate.
    
    Laurence Fishburn supposedly acquired the rights to Jimi's story (from
    whom???) and has been planning for years to produce and star in it.
    However, this is the first news I've heard of anything actually
    happening on this project.  It would be interesting...
    
    As an added bonus, here's a non-guitar related trivia question: long
    before his current status as a hot Hollywood actor (Boyz In the Hood,
    What's Love Got to Do With It, etc.) what Saturday morning children's
    show did Laurence Fishburn have a regular role on and what was his
    character?  (hint: the show's main character would have been a good
    choice for the Jim Morrison story :-)
    
    /ebert

    
    	If the movie was "What's Love Got to Do With It" then that's
    	him.
    
    	He also starred in "Deep Cover" with Jeff Goldblum and a few
    	others that I don't recall right at the moment.
    
    							GTI
    

    Newsweek had an interesting article two weeks ago about various people
    trying to cash in on Jimi's fortune.   There's even some kid that claims to
    be his son.   His dad apparently sold the rights to his songs fairly
    soon after he died (not believing that the music would last long) and
    apparently is now suing the current owner of the rights and trying
    to regain the rights.   The basis of the law suit wasn't explained very
    well, or maybe it just made now sense to me and thus I can't explain
    it here either.   

    	Re.88
    	Truth is thats where I got my info as well!
    	Now how and where do I go about a follow up on this ?
    	Any suggestions?
    
    	Kevin
     
    	Re.90
    
    	Read it. Pretty interesting arguement on Alan Douglas' part...
    	I think they quoted him as saying " If he ( Al Hendrix-JImi's dad)
    	wanted Jimi's music so badly...where the f**k's he been all these
    	years!?!" 
    	
    	Jimi Hendrix sold 5 million albums last year....If I were Al
    Hendrix, I'd be a little T'd off at myself for signing away that kind
    of coin. May be that's what this is about. What ever the case, I'm sure
    this will end up being another issue to be hung up in the courts for 20
    to 30 years!
    	As for Jimi Jr.(as he likes to be called) Swedish courts have ruled
    in his favour and named him, with out a doubt, Hendrix' son. If you
    ever see a picture of this kid (24),it's pretty convincing.
    
    	Kevin
    

    
    	Hi, 
    
    	If anyone has the tab to the acoustic version on the new BLUES
    	album, could you please send it to me or answer here?
    
    		Thanks,
    		-fred-
    

    	
    	Fred, if it's any help,tune down half a step to E-flat, and play
    	your heart out in the key of B. I did fool around with this a
     	little and found that I was bitting off more than I could chew.
    	Although I am not a big fan of tablature, and do the majority of my
    	'ripping off' by ear, I do agree that a sheet of tab would
    	definately help out here.Leave it to Jimi to write something
    	like that!
    	On another note, every thing else that Hendrix had 'officially'
    	released was put out in Tab, so the 'Blues' stuff wiil more
    	than likely be soon to follow....we hope.
    
    	Good Luck
    	Kevin, Hendrix FANatic
    

    	Looking for a copy of 'LOOSE ENDS'
    	1975 - Produced and released under Alan Douglas
    	Some tracks include:
    		             Blue Suede Shoes
    			     Electric Ladyland (alt. version)
    			     The Stars that Play with Laughing Sams Dice
    		             
    	Please mail me if you have access to, or have a copy to sell
    	or trade.
    
    	Kevin, Ottawa
    

    	
    	Just a quick correction to that previous note:
    
    		Released 02/74
    		Last official release BEFORE Alan Douglas take-over
    		European release only. [Eng] [Ger] [Fra]
    		
    
    		Also includes:       Come down hard on me
    			             Jam 292
    				     Drifter's Escape
    				     Hoochie Coochie Man
    				     Burning Desire
    
    	Anybody know what's on the cover?   (Bruce?)
    
    	Kevin
    

    Well,the Hendrix motion picture is finished and awaiting release.
    It's about damn time!
    
    -kev

    A travelling Hendrix exibition is headed to Canada this July/Aug. It
    will be appearing at Hard Rock Cafe locations.I saw this exibit at
    Woodstock 94 last summer. An amazing display. Interactive
    technology, and rarities galore. Well worth a look, fan or not. Actual
    dates have not been confirmed yet.
    
    -kev

    re:.93
    
    	Thanks, it helps! Now I have the tab for "Hear my train a comin'"
    	(acoustic) on the "Blues" album.
    
    		-Fred-
    

    Fred, Did you buy the whole BLUES book? How hard is the acoustic
    version of HMT?
    
    -kev

    
    	No, it's a tab I downloaded from the OLGA archives! (ftp)
    	the acoustic version of HMT is simple in the begining and hardest
    	at the end, the rhythm is hard to keep while singing.
    	If someone have "catfish blues" in tab, please post it!
    	It isn't so hard but I have some riff (solo) missed!
    
    		-Fred-

    Whats "OLGA"?

OLGA = On Line Guitar Archive

   Supposed to replace the nevada FTP tabulature archive.

    Is this an I-net thing??

    Be warned, the transcriptions I've seen there I would categorize
    as follows:
    
    20% Borderline useless, should never have been posted.  Like notating
    	"Stairway to Heaven" with only chords and missing most chords
    	 as in Am C  D  F  (i.e. this also means A+7aug5 -> A)
    
    60%  Very bad, almost accurate chord notations, but pretty inaccurate
     	 tablature 
    
    15%  Pretty decent, not professional, but not "rank amateur"
    
    5%   Quite accurate
    
    I suppose that for lots of people, even the bad stuff is useful, but
    the problem is there's so much of it, that it's hard to find the
    good stuff.

    I thought it was an Olympic gold medal-winning Russian gymnast.

    Jimi Hendrix died 25 years ago today....I wonder how the guitar world
    would have evolved with out his influence....
    
    -kev
    

>>> I wonder how the guitar world would have evolved with out his influence
    
    	Well for one thing, we wouldn't be able to buy fuzz-face reissues
    	for $100 plus dollars.   
    
    	;-)

    Nov 27. Happy Birthday Jimi!
    
    If anyones interested,there is a Book being released today with a CD
    included. Six songs from Jimi's personal home demo tapes with acoustic
    versions of Midnight Lightning, Angel (awesome,and probably the same
    version as on the Lifelines box set),and a few more.
    There is also a Sessions book recently released for freaks like me who
    have been collecting Hendrix material since before they care to
    remember.
    
    -kev

    Has anybody seen the concert video of Jimi Hendrix at the Atlanta Pop
    Festival (Aug? 1970).  A friend of mine got it at a Music store in
    Alston MA (Mr C's?) and thinks it may be the best musical performance Jimi
    ever did on video.  He said Jimi was "straight as an arrow".  Anybody
    seen this ? 
    
    pc
    

    	DO NOT JUDGE HENDRIX BY THIS PERFORMANCE!!!
    
    	I have this show and about 20 more in my vidoe colletion of Jimi.
    This show was a little boring to me. Of course, I'm a little obsessive
    when it comes to Hendrix. I've been collecting for quite a few years
    now. I have a B&W of the Band of Gypsies show at the Fillmore in '69. I
    thinkk that's pretty neat. If your looking to buy an officially
    released Hendrix show, pick up Live at Montery. The energy is
    unbelieveable (could have something to do with the acid, i dunno.). As
    for Jimi being "straight as an arrow" at the Atlanta
    gig....Hmmmmmmm....not too likely. 
    	Fwiw, there is SUPPOSED to be a movie in the can of his life story.
    Looking forward to that for sure.
    
    -k

    re .-1
    
    >>	Fwiw, there is SUPPOSED to be a movie in the can of his life story.
    >>Looking forward to that for sure.
    
    let me guess; Brad Pitt's going to play Jimi, right?

    
    	I had read Larry Fishburn, who played Ike Turner a few
    	years back.  No clue if that's still true.
    
    

    >>>I have this show and about 20 more in my vidoe colletion
    
    Yow - that's a little larger quality than I've had the opportunity
    to see !
    
    By Monterey, I take it you mean the infamous Monterey Pop Fest where
    Jimi does "Wild Thing", etc ? 
    
    paul
    

   I'm not sure he does "Wild Thing" (maybe it's in there) but he does do
   the quintessential version of "The Star Spangled Banner", wherein he does
   the lighter fluid trick on the Strat, bites/licks the strings off the
   guitar, and generally beats the thing to sh*t (maybe even busts up the
   amps?  It's been a while...)

   The "Concert for Rainbow Bridge" has always been my fav...  Even saw the
   movie.  Is the soundtrack available seperately?  (And if you ever see it,
   check out the album's liner notes - amazing Jimmy lasted as long as he
   did!  :-))

   -- Sam

    Jimi's entire Monterey set was shown on cable (HBO?) a couple of years
    ago; I think I have a copy somewhere.  I'd expect it's available
    commercially as well.
    
    /rick
    

    	Re Montery: It was available until MCA bought the rights to Jimi's
    Music and discontinued everything. Now the only ligit JImi out there
    is the remastered Are you Exp..., Axis, and E Lady land. Brutal...
    Speaking of cahanges, the infamous Alan Douglas has been canned too!
    This is the SOB who's been butchering Hendrix's music all this time.
    Whooohooo!
    
    -k

    
    	Interesting show on tonight on VH1 at 8:00.  I just caught a bit of
    	the ad but it's a special on Hendrix and the recording of Electric
    	Ladyland.  This seems like the one to watch / tape.
    
    	Tom

    
    	It's an hour and a half, btw.  And at 9:30 is a 1973 movie called
    	"Jimi Hendrix".  Anyone every see it?
    

>>    	It's an hour and a half, btw.  And at 9:30 is a 1973 movie called
>>    	"Jimi Hendrix".  Anyone every see it?
    
    Only about a dozen times.  It's a cut-and-paste documentary kind of
    thang; performance clips, interviews with people who knew him, rare
    footage (the Cavett Show interview, "Hear My Train-A-Comin" on acoustic
    12-string, etc.).  If you're into Hendrix at all, you'll want to have
    it on tape.
    
    /manny_depression
    

    As you may have heard, there are four newly remastered Hendrix CDs on
    the market.  A quick rundown for those who may not have heard this:
    Jimi's dad recently (and finally) got control of his estate and hired
    Eddie Kramer, who engineered the original recordings, to sort through
    all the tapes that exist.  Amazingly, Mr Kramer had never been asked to
    participate in any of the posthumous Hendrix releases, until now.  What
    he discovered was that previous CD releases used 3rd and 4th generation
    tapes that had been processed to compensate for the inadequacies of
    vinyl reproduction as it existed in 1968.  Even recent remasterings,
    like the Voodoo Soup compilation have supposedly used these inferior
    tapes as a starting point.  Eddie also discovered untouched first
    generation masters of all the old sessions.  These were used to
    produce the current re-releases of Experienced, Axis, Ladyland, and
    a new release "First Rays of the New Rising Sun" that is Kramer's
    version of what the next release would have been (basically yet another
    meld of various tracks from Cry of Love and Rainbow Bridge although
    since he was there he is arguably the one person most likely to actually
    know).
    
    I decided to sample one of these this weekend.  I chose First Rays
    since it was the one disc that had at least a couple of cuts I didn't
    already own on CD.  I'm always skeptical of these rereleases, but I
    must say this one exceeds all expectations.  Since I have Voodoo Soup
    which contains many of the same tracks, I could do a direct comparison.
    The difference is stunning.  The new new releases sound fuller, more
    color and texture to the instruments, much more detail.  Tracks that
    are almost completely obscured in the Voodoo mixes are out front and
    sharply defined.  It's as if they added 8 more tracks, cleaned out all
    the crud, and widened the audio spectrum considerably.  My first
    reaction was that the mixes sounded too busy and cluttered, but I soon
    grew to love the disc.  It's like a Lousiana Gumbo; on the surface a
    gloppy stew, but dig in and you experience multiple intricate layers
    of flavor.  The Voodoo Soup mixes are like Campbell's chicken noodle by
    comparison.  As an added plus, this CD somehow captures what I think
    of as a "vinyl" sound.  That whole edge that CDs have (and which
    I've grown accustomed to) seems to be conspicuously absent.  
    
    Based on this taste, I'll be going back for more.  Next up will
    probably be Electric Ladyland.  I'm anxious to see if it impresses
    me as much as New Rays did.
    
    /rick
    

Re: .-1:

Are the new releases HDCD encoded ( if so you'll see the little HDCD logo 
somewhere in the fine print on the CD jacket)?

Interesting,,,,

I've always thought the remastering projects, usually took away
from the inate, raw aspects of what the original artists wanted 
and how they produced the tracks based on what the state of the
technology was at back then..   I mean Hendrix new what he could 
get out of the stuff he was using, and I'd guess he put things 
'where' he wanted them in the mix with some level of intention...  

Given he's not here for the re-tracking, I wonder
if he'd want that stuff actually mixzed different, maybe cleaner
yes, but different ??.. hard to say,,

Add the remastering with todays toys and filters, and what I find 
comes out is something that's neither a better or more likable product 
than the original,, if it was good in '69,. it's probably still good
todaym, right ?  

I guess it's all a matter of taste, but as an aside,I find it 
disturbing; (for me anyway) when I go into a recording project, 
and the final product is more a result of what the sound  engineer
wanted it to sound like, instead of what I wanted it to sound like 
(I really do hate that, my brotherinlaw does this to me constantly.
he's a good engineer but, there my tunes ya know,)  anyway,, I'll have 
to check this out...

/r

    I share your feelings about remastering, hence my lowered expectations
    about this project from the start.
    
    One of the things Kramer mentions is that in those days the masters had
    to be eq'd and otherwise mucked with to try to make up for vinyl pressing
    process which had it's problems.  So even the original vinyls LPs
    aren't truly representative of the sound Jimi wanted and got on the
    original masters.  With CDs, we can now get a much more accurate
    transfer, and so the hype is that these are a more true picture of
    Jimi's original vision.
    
    /rick
    

    	All I can say is that it's about time.This is what the fans have 
    been waiting for for 25 years...I can't wait to hear these new disc's!
    
    -kev_

    re: .121
    
    I checked for the HDCD logo, but couldn't find one anywhere
    

    I think I saw them in Straberry Record down Searstown Mall.
                                                              

    what's the label name for these new CD releases?

    So how much of Rainbow Bridge is on New Rays?  I've always wanted
    Rainbow Bridge on CD, because I love that album - the flow of the tunes
    and even the art work!
    
    I bought Cry Of Love on CD about a year ago ($18) and think it sounds
    great!  Haven't got War Heroes yet, but that'll be soon.
    
    /paul
    

    On a Band Of Gypsys note.... I received the Band Of Gypsys Score in the
    mail yesterday from Music Dispatch!  It's way cool.  Includes all tunes
    from the original album as recorded!  Guitar, bass, drums, vocal staves
    plus tab all for $29.95.  Lots of nice anecdotal info on the Forward
    and for each song.
    
    Hope they do this for some of his other less praised albums like
    Cry Of Love. 
    
    /paul
    

    Awsome!!
    

    If I get a chance I'll post the tracks for "New Rays".  I'm not
    familiar enuff with Rainbow Bridge to know which tunes r from there.
    

    If you're not experienced yet, check out
    
    	http://www.jimi-hendrix.com/
    
    Track listing from First Rays of the New Rising Sun:
    
    1.Freedom 
    2.Izabella 
    3.Night Bird Flying 
    4.Angel 
    5.Room Full of Mirrors 
    6.Dolly Dagger 
    7.Ezy Rider 
    8.Drifting 
    9.Beginnings 
    10.Stepping Stone 
    11.My Friend 
    12.Straight Ahead 
    13.Hey Baby (New Rising Sun) 
    14.Earth Blues 
    15.Astro Man 
    16.In From the Storm 
    17.Belly Button Window 
    

    Okay, it's tunes from Cry Of Love, Rainbow Bridge and War Heroes.
    /pc
    
    Track listing from First Rays of the New Rising Sun:
    
    1.Freedom  - Cry Of Love
    2.Izabella - War Heroes
    3.Night Bird Flying - Cry Of Love
    4.Angel - Cry Of Love
    5.Room Full of Mirrors - Rainbow Bridge
    6.Dolly Dagger - Rainbow Bridge
    7.Ezy Rider - Cry Of Love
    8.Drifting - Cry Of Love
    9.Beginnings - War Heroes 
    10.Stepping Stone - War Heroes
    11.My Friend - Cry Of Love
    12.Straight Ahead - Cry Of Love
    13.Hey Baby (New Rising Sun) - Rainbow Bridge
    14.Earth Blues - Rainbow Bridge
    15.Astro Man - Cry Of Love
    16.In From the Storm - Cry Of Love
    17.Belly Button Window - Cry Of Love
    
    Tunes on the original Rainbow Bridge that aren't here:
    Star Spangled Banner (studio version)
    Look Over Yonder
    Hear My Train A Comin' (live @ Berkeley May 30, 1970)
    
    Tunes on original War Heroes LP that aren't here:
    Bleeding Heart
    Highway Chile
    Tax Free
    Peter Gunn
    Catastrophe
    Midnight
    3 Little Bears
    
    Tunes from the original Cry Of Love are all here!
    'course I don't have New Rays, so I don't know if they're the exact
    same takes.
    

    my impression is these are all the same takes as on the albums; the
    only difference being the quality of the masters from which they were
    pressed
    

    	I picked up New Rays this weekend. I'm kind of a Hendrix freak and
    I will say that the quality of these tracks is incredible. I have
    quite a collection of Hendrix material and these, by far, are the best 
    quality of the lot to date. I'm so glad to see that Jimi's affairs and
    music is finally being taken care of properly. 
    	Btw, the only track I was disappointed in not seeing was Pali Gap
    from rainbow bridge....
    
    -kev

I'm a little confused.  I recall that the first Hendrix CDs had really 
poor sound.  Then a few years ago, there was a reissue of the three 
initial CDs (Experienced, Axis, and Ladyland?) with a greatest hits 
CD also in the re-release if I remember correctly.  People raved about 
how these disk were SO much better.  Is this a re-re-release of this 
material and how do the three compare?

Jim

    you are correct, sir!  This is the third time on CD for most of these
    tracks.  From my understanding:
    
    1st release - quick and dirty transfer from tapes originally eq'd for vinyl
    
    2nd release - improved "CD" mastering, but still using inferior tapes
    		  as source
    
    3rd release - 1st generation tapes, no vinyl eq, minimal processing by
    		  Eddie "60's ears" Kramer
    

    Re: .135; You're right Pali Gap isn't listed on New Rays which did
    come from Rainbow Bridge.  Missed that one.  And yeah,  Pali Gap is
    a very cool tune.  Jimi was going for 'something else' in his later
    days and I liked that direction very much.  Then again, maybe it's also
    in part that this stuff didn;t get played to death.
    
    Been listening to Band Of Gypsys alot lately (bought the CD) and I'm
    really digging the heavy R&B feel that this band had!  These guys were
    right on. They spoke eloquently on their instruments - right in the
    pocket... unlike alot of the Mitch/Noel recordings 8>).  But that's
    apples and oranges - the older, still very cool.
    
    /pc
    

    I think Billy Cox may have had a lot to do with that R&B feel in the
    BOG.  For my money, he was a much better bassist for Jimi than Noel
    was.  Heck, even Jimi was a better bassist for Jimi than Noel was
    (e.g., "Watchtower").
    

    
    Buddy Miles most definitely contributed to the R&B groove as well,
    having originally played with Wilson Pickett's band, and then the
    Electric Flag.  I recently picked up his 'Best of' compilation on
    CD from his post-Flag days with the Express. There's one blues tune
    on it that has a hotter-than-h@!! guitar solo by Jim McCarty, formerly
    of Mitch Ryder's Detroit Wheels, but I was disappointed that it didn't
    include the Express's cover of Otis Reading's 'Cigarettes & Coffee'.
    
    /Steve
     

    
    Band o' Gypsies is my fave Hendrix, and his solo on 
    Machine Gun is one of my fave solos of any style.  
    I mean that _note_ (where he's playing with the 
    pickup selector?) just _screams_.  Inimitable IMHOP. 
    
    Dave 

    re: .139, re: Noel vs. Billy as bass players.... I was trying to be
    nice (snicker, snicker).  Billy did more of his home work.  Think that
    both Buddy & Billy contributed greatly to tight groove!
    
    And Yes, just last week I picked up the Best of Buddy Miles CD! Great
    to see this stuff made it to CD. When I was a teen ager I used to
    listen to his album, "Message To The People".  There's 4 tunes on the
    CD from that album, Joe Tex, Midnight Rider, Wholesale Love, and one
    more. Good stuff.  Always liked that way he covered Greg Allman's
    Midnight Rider.
    
    Was reading that around ~1994 Buddy did an album with Bootsy Collins
    called "Hardware". I'd be real interested to hear that.
    
    /paul
    

    
    I took a listen to Band of Gypsies over the weekend, and thought
    about what I like about the Machine Gun solo.  I compared it
    to another (very very different) guitar solo that I like, 
    Wes Montgomery on the first blues cut of the Smokin' at the
    Half Note album.  A big difference is the way
    the soloist is playing rhythmically with relation to the
    rhythm section.  In Machine Gun, Hendrix is playing completely
    independently of the bass and drum rhythms, very "freely" if you
    will.  Wes in contrast is digging way deep into the groove, 
    playing very closely with the time.  And both solos are 
    great.  This kind of free rhythm solo (Hendrix) sounds very 
    "psychedelic" to me.  It also reminds me in a way of free jazz.
    
    Dave