Conference napalm::guitar

    See note #1381.
    
    The EDI is a direct box intended to accept speaker levels and has a
    tuned filter in it to simulate the frequency response of a "typical"
    speaker cabinet.  The trim adjustment lets you tweak the filter
    characteristics somewhat.
    
    Peavey may have been the first to market with such a device, but they
    never promoted it too well.  They have also built it into some of their
    guitar amplifiers.
    
    
    						Brian

      Also - check out topic 1516 on the H & K Red Box. It runs around $100
    and really does a good job. Definitly not your standard D.I. box,
    it uses a 9 volt battery, but fortunately doesn't seem to eat them
    up real fast. 

                              		- john r.

    How much does the Peavy unit cost?
    
    Greg

    Re: .3
    
    It's about $50-75, I think.
    
    							Brian
    
    

    
    Re: .3
    
    It's only $50.00 around here.
    
    BTW I've got the specs,
    
    SPECIFICATIONS:
    
    INPUT SENSITIVITY:
    35 volts RMS
    
    INSERTION LOSS:
    29 db
    
    DRAIN ON SPEAKER SIGNAL:
    Less than 1/2 watt at 30 volts RMS
    
    GROUND SITUATION:
    Input and output grounds isolated
    
    600 ohm transformer balance output 1/4" phone jack speaker/amp 
    connections:
    
    Timbre Adjustment

    I liked the idea, although with scepticism, until you ruined it with
    *that* word. The "P" word. Peavey.
    
    I'm pretty hooked on the sound of an EVM12L, as is usual with new
    products such as this, only my ears will know for sure....
    
    BUT I'LL BET DADDY'S IS ALL OUT OF THEM !!!! 
    
    :^)
    
    -BAP

<<    I liked the idea, although with scepticism, until you ruined it with
<<    *that* word. The "P" word. Peavey.
<<    
<<    I'm pretty hooked on the sound of an EVM12L, as is usual with new
<<    products such as this, only my ears will know for sure....
  
    Then you probably don't like the sound MADE IN JAPAN either!!
    
    Hmp, while I wouldn' rush out and buy a peavy Guitar, or Guitar amp,
    or Sound Board, much their sound reinforcement products aren't bad at 
    all.  I've had pretty good luck in fact with their Comercial Series 
    power amps (such as the CS800 and CS400)  Black Widow speakers are
    very popular and used quite frequently.
    
    Add to that, we've had remarkable sucess with some Mid and Horn
    cabinets, and I'd have to say that your baised could be unfair if
    you turn the interest of as soon as someone says Peavey.  
    
    Sure, they certainly have made some bombs but what company hasnt'
    
    At least with Peavey, you can afford the stuff, and it's farily easy
    to have their stuff serviced.  (Try getting a Phase Linear amp fixed!)    
    
    I'd check this out, and worry about whos naem is on it later.

    
    
    	Re: The "P" word
    
    		Peavey equipment is solid, well built and affordable
    equipment. I've had very little trouble with by Bass rig and it's
    all PV amplification. I'm curious why you don't like PV gear.
    
    -Tom (Die Hard PV Fan)

    
    Re: last few
    
    Can we put the Peavey bashing in another note, please?  Let's keep this
    one to the discussion of the EDI direct box.

    
    What kind of direct box would folks recommend for an acoustic guitar
    with a (Thinline) pickup?  What should I expect to spend for it?
    
    Justine

    I would buy one that is active (i.e requires a battery or other power
    source) and has an FET front end.  Pickups like a Thinline have a very
    high output impedance and you want the direct box to have as high an
    input impedance as possible for the best signal transfer.  A passive
    box will cost you less money though, and has no battery to replace. 
    Depending on the quality of the rest of the signal chain, it may work
    just as well.
    
    Passive boxes from DOD and Whirlwind start at about $25.  Top-flight
    passive boxes run up to about $75.  The Countryman Model 85 active
    direct box can be bought for about $100.
    
    Oh yeah, make sure it has a ground lift switch on it, some real cheap
    units don't.
    
    							Brian

        Jensen Transformers will sell you all the parts to make a passive
        direct box - resistors and capacitors - $5.00, Transformer -
        <$70.00, you have to supply the box, switches and jacks.
        
        The box can be used directly with the guitar, amp line out or
        speaker out.
        
                Jensen Transformers, Inc.
                10735 Burbank Blvd.
                North Hollywood, CA 91601
                (213) 876-0059 Phone
                (213) 763-4574 FAX
        
        

    Justine,
    
    H&K makes direct boxes for about $80.  They work well from what I
    understand.  
    
    You might also consider a Boss GL100 line driver. It's actually a
    preamp, but has speaker emulation circuitry and EXCELLENT EQ sections
    (multiple channels), stereo switchable FX loop etc..  It's a hot unit 
    and are going for as low as $100 !!!!
    
    jc

    
      New to the active ditect box market - ADA! - with their new
    single rack space microCAB speaker emulator. I don't think it's
    designed to take speaker level though, just line outs. What is nice is
    the flexibility. There is a hi-cut control and a "thump" control for
    low end resonance. There are seven speaker types available by push
    button:
    		Open Back Cabinet-
    			1 X 12
    			2 X 12
    			2 X 12 vintage
    		Sealed Back Cabinet-
    			1 X 12
    			2 X 12
    			2 X 12 vintage
    			4 X 12
    			4 X 12 vintage
    
      Haven't heard one yet, but it does look interesting. I think
    Musician's Friend sells it for $179.
    
    							-B{}{}M-

    Hmmm....  I wonder how it would work with the Mp1, which doesn't
    do direct to tape recording very well... ??
    jc

    I saw that ad on the back cover of the new Guitar Player I got this
    weekend, looks very interesting!!
    
    Greg

    re 14,
    
    	What? no 4 10,2 10,1 15 cabs......or is this an upgrade? :^)
    
    

compared price wise with the red box it's not competative. Personally I 
can't imagine that it sounds that much better to amke the price difference
worth it. Not to mention how big it is...

dbii red box bigot

I thought the speaker box idea was neeto!  Ya know, like they had in
HS&R last month ?? 

    re: dbII
    
    But it's a lot more flexable then a RedBox since that one only emulates
    one cabinet.  Seems feasable that it's worth the extra $100 if it
    sounds good.
    
    Greg

    
    
        I completed my first gig with the ADA microCAB feeding the front
    end. No problem with sound quality whatsoever. I used the 4 X 12
    setting and had the hi-cut at mid-point and the thump control at 
    around 2 o'clock. I think this unit is well worth the cost ($175 to me)
    because it is stereo (like two D.I.'s in one, great for recording)
    and has a lot of control. 
        It was nice of ADA to include a ground lift switch on the XLR outs
    because I had to use it to get rid of some hum. And they were smart ot
    include a pass-thru out to feed your power amp just in case you are
    using it in an effects loop or "preamp out/power amp in" configuration.
        If you have to use power amp prior to your D.I. this unit will not
    work, then you pretty much have to consider something like the Red
    Box.
    
    							-B{}{}M-

    Are the stereo channels of the Microcab completely independant? 
    (signal wise)  Are there seperate controls for each channel?
    
    Greg

    
       Independant channels / No seperate controls! Not that that's a
    bummer. I think the idea here (and a good one at that) is to allow for 
    full stereo seperation when going into a mixer. If your gear has
    stereo outs (hmm - Me, Coop, other MRP's in here) then the microCAB
    gives you that stereo advantage when recording. Nice touch for not
    much money!
    
    							-B{}{}M-

>Nice touch for not much money!                                     
    
    As long you've already spent the dough on tape tracks...
    :-)

    
    
      The ADA got a good workout Friday evening. I did some minor tweaks
    on some of my patches and used the wireless so I could stand out and
    really hear the sound of my rig through the front end - RIGHTEOUS!
    
      To add to that I got roped into doing about a four minute guitar solo
    because someone in the crowd yelled "guitar solo" and I played just a
    few quick riffs. I stopped after about 12 seconds, the crowd yelled and
    my drummer told me to go for it. It wouldn't work everywhere we play,
    but it seemed appropriate for this gig. I could really hear the front
    end from the stage during the solo, so I must've been cranked at the 
    board and it's all ADA fed. My only regret - I should've ran the ADA
    in stereo because the PA system is stereo on the mids and highs! All it
    would've taken is one more 1/4" patch and one XLR to the snake. That
    would do it! NEXT TIME!
    
    							-B{}{}M-