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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1612.0. "Warmouth" by VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE () Fri Dec 29 1989 12:36

    What experiences may anyone have with Warmouth necks and bodies?
    
    ( Considering a Warmouth neck as they offer a 24 fret model, 
    and 1 3/4 or 1 7/8 " nut)
    
    Or, to another topic, the Washburn Wonderbar?
    
    Thanks in advance. 
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1612.1It's good stuff, but pricyCSC32::MOLLERNightmare on Sesame StreetFri Dec 29 1989 15:3224
	They are top quality, but they are also expensive. If they have
	them in stock, you get them fast, if not, you may wait quite a
	while for it to show up.

	I visited the factory. It's a house in an average neighborhood.
	The living room was converted to a show room, the dining room 
	(with the owners father running it), was where the IBM P.C.
	sat & orders were entered. The garage was the shipping department.
	In the basement & the shed out back were where things were made.

	As I say, they do quality work, but their stock is stashed in 
	closets & anywhere you can imagine. They often don't appear to
	be in any rush to get things done, if it's not outside of the
	current schedule. 

	They do make up different scale length necks as a custom order
	as well as appropriately scaled bodies (ever wanted a Strat look
	alike with 24 3/4 inch scale like a Les Paul or SG??).

	Doesn't Stewart MacDonald offer a similar bolt on neck for about
	1/2 to 1/3rd the price (this is for a Strat style guitar, right??)
	You might want to check up on this before your order anything.

								Jens
1612.2S-MCSC32::G_HOUSESoul on IceFri Dec 29 1989 17:2214
    >	Doesn't Stewart MacDonald offer a similar bolt on neck for about
    >	1/2 to 1/3rd the price (this is for a Strat style guitar, right??)
    >	You might want to check up on this before your order anything.
    
    They don't offer a 24 fret neck, only 22 if that's important.  Also the
    neck that has the wide fretboard has a Jackson style headstock.  You
    can definately save some money if these things don't make any
    difference to you.    
    
    The neck with the wide fretboard is 1-11/16" at the nut with a 12"
    fretboard radius and costs $91.48 with a maple or rosewood fingerboard
    and $94.68 with ebony.
    
    Greg
1612.3VLNVAX::ALECLAIRESun Dec 31 1989 14:5422
    This is for a new guitar of mine.
    
    There's something about having 24 frets on the fingerboard, if opens my
    brain way up for som reason. Classical excersizes, which I do now
    out of boredom alot now, are stupid things that run all the way up and
    all the way down the board. I'm not having the trouble I did a year ago
    when I went to a 24 fret neck.
    
    But there's something about just taking your solo or thing an octave up
    on the spur. I don't feel real confortable doing this on the short
    necks, but on 24 frets, it's different, like a window is open.
    
    And I can get no fingerboard markers on a Warmouth, it's funny on the
    guitar I have em, I use em, but going to the classic I get around
    too. Something about the width of a fret, or seeing the positions on
    the board you get used to.  
    
    Gonna use a Mahogany body, 2 single and a hum. No pickup mounting
    rings, a shallow hole with the pickups screwed down to the wood.
    And the wonderbar. Should give me some resonance, ya think?
    
    
1612.5VLNVAX::ALECLAIREMon Jan 01 1990 13:518
    Maybe maybe I might layer the top with spruce. Seeing that the
    wonderbar sits on it, it might give me the resonance,
    sustain and thick as cream tone I want. 
    
    Perhaps if I route a cavity under the Wonderbar, then glue the
    spruce on, it would increase these charateristics.
    
    Perhaps somebody has seen something like this.
1612.6warmouth user replys:ORCAS::MCKINNON_JATue Jan 02 1990 23:4122
    
    I have owned a Warmouth "telecaster" for a number of years
    and it is a well built guitar.  Ash body and maple/rosewood
    neck.  I'm left handed and wanted a well made and easy to care
    for guitar.  They were very helpful in allowing me to take a little
    extra time to pay them as I was between jobs for a while and a 
    guitar was low on priority.  
    	I have toured the "facility" and it is a nice way to spend a
    few hours and just look and touch.  Nice people and you never know
    who you will run into there.  A friend of mine also has a warmouth
    "strat" and has been very satisfied with it.  esp. the necks.
    They can help you find that special neck before you buy it.
    There was about 200 to 300 necks that could be handled and inspected
    and there was the owner who could answer ?'s and give advice.
    They get my vote for quality, attention to detail and service.
    
    p.s. my telly was about 500.00.  all but the case included.
    
    jim mckinnon@seo
    orcas::mckinnon_ja
    
    
1612.7VLNVAX::ALECLAIREWed Jan 03 1990 09:398
    I'm bummed, I found my old Warmouth catalog and the 24 fret neck comes
    in rosewood only. I really want a maple neck. the catalo lists the
    fender- style head in birdseye @167 and another head something like
    Jackson, maybe a little more like the old kramer at 217. 
    1 3/4" nut is the widest.
    
    Does anyone have a basswood body? Warmouth says it sounds warm, I
    don't know if it sounds warmer than mahogany.  
1612.8I wouldn't do business with themROLL::BEFUMOBetween nothingness & eternityWed Jan 03 1990 16:227
    I'd be VERY hesitant to send money to these characters.  It took me
    something like six or seven months just to get a catalog from them.  I
    sent them checks twice (neither of which has ever been chashed), called
    them three or four times, and each time it was just like talking to
    someone who just got in from Venus.  If I HAD to buy something from
    them I'd definitely make sure I paid with a credit card so I'd have
    some recourse when they started jerking me around.
1612.9DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDJust say no: The Edward's Dam!Thu Jan 04 1990 10:1815
My experience talking with Warmouth on th ephone has been similar...they
really don't seem to be interested in talking and in my case, I was looking for
a custom cut pickguard, they weren't even interested unless I gave them a
template (if I had one I'd a cut it myself!). DItto a custom body (Tele 
thinline, flametop 1 ea.)...

I did pick up a used Warmouth neck, it seems to be very nice but I haven't 
put it on anything yet...the price was right $75 (bird's eye maple with ebony, 
list is ~$250) and it's in very good shape...

I think the products they make are probably real good, they seem to lack in the
service area...


dbii
1612.10Warmouth ProblemsORCAS::MCKINNON_JAFri Jan 05 1990 16:2111
    
    
    Thank you for the input on what has happened to you dealing with
    Warmouth.  This is a matter of concern to me and I'll post any update
    that I can.  BTW, some of their employees are from a different place
    and do not handle english very well.  
     
    thanks, jim mckinnon@seo
    orcas::mckinnon_ja
    
    
1612.11VLNVAX::ALECLAIRESat Jan 06 1990 12:076
    re 1612.5
    
    There's an ad for Chandler guitars in GPFTPM, it shows a Tele-style
    body routed all out with a spruce top. 
    Also in the Ibeniz catalog they have a hollowed solid-body out of
    mahogany. 
1612.12need a catalogICS::BUCKLEYParadise in the sandWed Jun 13 1990 10:306
    I'm looking into building a Warmouth Strat-style guitar.  Anyone
    have the current catalog they could copy for me??  I'm really
    not into waiting for a catalog from them!
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Buck
1612.13DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDNice computers don't go downWed Jun 13 1990 10:364
No catalog but I have a warmouth neck. The radius is really cool! This may 
turn into one of my favorites on earth....

dbii
1612.14exICS::BUCKLEYParadise in the sandWed Jun 13 1990 10:467
    -1
    
    I was (hopfully) looking for a 24ft neck with a maple baord and a 
    reverse headstock!  I want this to be the definitive metal axe  (you
    know, scalloped board and all!)
    
    B.
1612.15;*)WOODRO::FRASERA.N.D.Y.-Yet Another Dyslexic NoterWed Jun 13 1990 10:5512
>           <<< Note 1612.14 by ICS::BUCKLEY "Paradise in the sand" >>>
>                                    -< ex >-
    
>    I was (hopfully) looking for a 24ft neck with a maple baord and a 
        ...
        
        That's a giraffe, not a guitar!
            
        Andy
        
        PS. Sorry, couldn't resist!
        
1612.16DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDNice computers don&#039;t go downWed Jun 13 1990 15:435
last catalog I saw warmouth only did 22 frets and no scallops.

Stewie macs had 22 fret scalloped necks (cheap too)

dbii
1612.17BTOVT::BAGDY_ME=mc� - the formula for beer bubbles !Wed Jun 13 1990 15:547
        Buck, I'll check all my catalogs at home.  It seems that back
        a couple months  ago  I  ordered  a  few  catalogs.  One from
        Hosono and I `THINK'  Warmouth  was the other.  I'll get back
        to you tonight when I log in from home.
        
        Matt
1612.18ICS::BUCKLEYParadise in the sandWed Jun 13 1990 16:017
    I'm mainly looking for 24 frets and a maple board...the scalloping
    I plan to do myself!
    
    I see people with these neck around, so they must come from
    *somewhere*...
    
    B.
1612.19Maybe not anymoreCOOKIE::G_HOUSENo, I&#039;m very, very shy.Wed Jun 13 1990 16:267
I'm looking at a Spring 90 Stewart-Mcdonalds catalog and it doesn't seem to 
have the scalloped fretboard ones anymore.  They do have some cool looking 
birdseye maple ones though...

You may want to try Chandler or Performance Guitar for 24 fret necks.

Greg
1612.20love that slick feel!GOOROO::CLARKtake a ride to the land inside of your mindWed Jun 13 1990 16:306
    How much are maple necks, anyways? I'm somewhat interested in 
    a satin-finish maple neck for my American Standard Strat with
    a neck radius similar to the one I have now (which I guess is
    about 16").
    
    thanks - Dave
1612.21Varys widelyCOOKIE::G_HOUSENo, I&#039;m very, very shy.Wed Jun 13 1990 18:377
Depends on where you get it from and what options you get, about $85-$300.

If you want a Warmoth neck with the old compound radius and all, expect to
pay somewhere close to $300.  If you want a Stewart-McDonalds generic Strat 
replacement, about $85.

Greg
1612.22BTOVT::BAGDY_ME=mc� - the formula for beer bubbles !Wed Jun 13 1990 21:3935
        Buck, looks  like  you're  out  of  luck  on the Warmouth.  I
        checked and could  only  find  my  WD Music Products catalog.
        They've got a Strat  replacement neck that's Scalloped with a
        Maple fretboard, but it's only  22-frets.   That one goes for
        $260.00.  They also list a  scalloped rosewood for $260.00 as
        well.  Standard 11" radius with 1  5/8"  nut  width.  Nothing
        on the Tele style replacements but they do  list  replacement
        necks for the Jackson.  More expensive with a  14" radius and
        a 1 11/16" nut width.
        
        Hosono  on  the other hand, lists 24-fret, four bolt mounting
        necks.    Specs  on those are Top loaded, `super duty' double
        expanding truss rod  at  the  end  of  the  neck (body side).
        Scale is 25�" for Fender  specs.    Available nut widths they
        offer are 1 5/8", 1 11/16",  1  3/4".    Radius is 12".  They
        don't offer scalloped necks, although they do offer:
        
        Fretboard/stock
        
        Maple/maple                     $194.00
        Rosewood/maple                  $206.00
        Purple heart/maple              $206.00   All listed are 
        Brazillian rosewood/maple       $253.00   25�" scale, 24-
        Pauferro/maple                  $218.00   fret necks.
        Ebony/maple                     $233.00
        
        Birdseye Maple Stock, add $30.00
        
        They  also offer 12 different head stock  selections,  but  I
        don't see any reverse stocks as you wanted.
        
        Sorry I can't help ya' any more than that dude.
        
        Matt
1612.23DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDNice computers don&#039;t go downThu Jun 14 1990 12:2915
re: need a neck for my amercian std strat

Warmouth necks appear to come unfinished!]

I recently bought a Fender replacement neck for a good price (also unfinished)
it's the '62 re-issue rosewood fingerboard

seems real nice

Stweart Mac's has finished necks that are very fender-like for under $100.

Warmouth necks are quite expensive and are not fender-like but come with a 
compound radius, these are excellant necks but overpriced IMHO.

dbii
1612.24TCC::COOPERMIDI rack pukeTue Jul 17 1990 12:495
That birdseye stuff is BEAUTIFUL !

Check out the linseed-oil finished one at Mr. C's in Marlboro...

jc (Who always wanted to build his own)