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1571.1 | Pricy Browsing | STAR::KMCDONOUGH | set kids/nosick | Fri Dec 01 1989 16:47 | 7 |
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Rick, how about Alembic and Pedulla? Seems like they would fit your
high-end criteria.
Kevin
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1571.2 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Sat Dec 02 1989 09:36 | 1 |
| And perhaps you could mention if you saw any 6 string basses.
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1571.3 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | punk jazz | Sun Dec 03 1989 16:44 | 6 |
| I tried Alembics and Pedullas years ago and didn't care for either;
my memory is that they're both heavy and have a relatively hard
tone, two downers for me.
Didn't try any 5 or 6 strings as I'm not in the market, but I encourage
other people to post reviews here.
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1571.4 | Alembics - HOT and Cold | FDCV07::DADDIECO | That's Just The Way It Is ..... | Tue Dec 05 1989 13:09 | 26 |
| ON Alembics:
My experience is that I either love them or hate them. Tom (Savvy's
lead guitar player) and I recently A/B'd a Standard, Distillate or
Spoiler Model (can't remember but it was $1100.00) against my Peavey
Foundation Unity Series Koa Bass. Although the Alembic was surely crafted
far superior to the Peavey, that warm, robust, deep and rich sound was
simply lacking. For a high end neck-thru bass, I was surely
disappointed. The Peavey in this instance was sounding much better.
But then I took a trip up to Danvers to visit Steve's Quality Musical
Instrument store. I found a Zebra Wood Alembic (one of only 9 made in
the world btw) - the Elan (sp?) model. This bass was absolutely
fabulous to look at - the wood was truly exotic and I just can't say
enough about how it shined! I demoed this one too - -this Alembic was
great - excellent tone, the craftmanship was superb - it was a very
fine instrument and if it weren't for the price ($1700.00) - I'd
own it!
So - i.m.o. - bass guitars are like wine - if you like it - it's great,
if you don't - it doesn't matter how fine an instrument it is - it's
just not right for you.
So like Rick C. - I'm still searching for that perfect bass!
Dan
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1571.5 | Alembic lover | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Conliberative | Wed Dec 06 1989 08:48 | 8 |
| I had a chance to buy Andy West (ex of the Dregs) Alembic bass for
a grand (good deal for any aged Alembic in good shape).
I don't play much bass, but if I did, I'd definitely have an Alembic.
There's something about the articulation of an Alembic bass that
really cuts through and attracts my ear.
db
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1571.6 | Paul Reed Smith Basses | AQUA::ROST | Drink beer: Live 6 times longer | Fri Nov 16 1990 10:38 | 40 |
| Paul Reed Smith has been cranking out basses for awhile but they have
been very low profile. The only time I ever saw anyone play one was in
a Dobbie Bros. video. Anyway, Rick C. tipped me to one at Daddy's in
Shrewsbury, MA, a used one for $1000.
An interesting bass. Body shape is like the PRS guitars, which makes
the 24 fret neck *seem* long. There are three pickups, two in a J-bass
type of setup and a third right at the end of the fingerboard. You get
four knobs, two speed knobs, one for volume, the other is the pickup
selector, and two active tones of some sort. There is a mini-toggle to
engage the preamp. The bridge looks a lot like a stock Fender bridge,
but has a lip all the way around it. Fingerboard was rosewood and the
body appeared to be a curly maple cap over some other wood.
As Rick mentioned to me, this bass was *extremely* playable. Yes, it
had pretty low action, but there's more to it than that. It just
seemed to play with very little physical effort. This was its best
feature. The tone setup was somewhat undecipherable. The pickup
selector, like the old Gibson EB3, does some weird tricks. You get two
tones that are P-bass like, one with extended bottom (my guess is they
kick in the neck pickup here) and three other tones which sounded very
thin and twangy, not my cup of tea at all. The tone was crisp overall
without getting brittle and it seemed to have a good, round bottom end
as well in the two settings I liked best. One tone knob appeared to be
a treble control (although its effect was subtle), the other mystified
me but may have been a midrange tweak of some sort, it seemed like it
was sweeping a boost across various frequency ranges...maybe 8^) ???
The fingerboard was quite wide and flat, much more like a P-bass than a
J-bass. The neck itself was quite slender, like early 60s Fenders
tended to be. The color, a transparent blue was kind of odd, but the
wood beneath was nicely figured. As with a lot of high-end axes, the
case was your generic hardshell...at these prices why don't we see
fitted flight cases and the like? Heck, Peavey used to supply a fitted
flight case with a $375 bass....
Overall, this is one bass you should look into if you are shopping in
the high end ranges.
Brian
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1571.7 | Ken Smith Burner Bass | RGB::ROST | Your old lady is my old lady, too | Mon Oct 28 1991 13:36 | 43 |
| Ken Smith has been cranking out basses in his NYC shop for a few years
now, but at prices in the $2500 and up range, it's no surprise that
you don't see a lot of them around.
Recently, Smith introduced the Burner line which has bolt-on necks
rather than thru-body construction, and uses J-bass style pickups
rather than his trademark soapbars. The basses are made of various
woods (price goes up as the wood gets better) and you can get 4, 5 or 6
strings.
The neck is 24 frets and very slim. the headstock is tilted back so
that string trees are not used. Tuners are small enclosed units
(Schallers, maybe). The bridge is Smith's own design as are the
pickups. The pickups are passive, but there is a preamp with
volume, balance, bass and treble controls. An additional 12 db gain
adjustment may be made internally. Pulling up on the volume pot
bypasses the preamp in case your batteries go south.
The sound? Massive, with the EQ flat. More massive with the EQ turned
up. The sound was full and punchy *everywhere* even way up on the
neck on the G string, where most basses start wimping out. The
intonation on the one I played was incredible, good enough so that
chords above the 20th fret came out clear and in tune. The bass was
*very* light, and quite comfortable to play sitting down. The
rosewood fingern=board was very fast, I found myself zipping around on
licks where I normally choke up using my P-bass. I was quite impressed
overall with his bass. One thing in particular I liked was that it
has a much thicker sound than an Alembic or Steinberger.
McDuff's in Shrewsbury, MA is taking on the Burner line. They can
also order the "regular" Smith basses if you like. Pickups, bridges
and preamps are available as parts for retrofitting your Fender (but
not cheap, a P-J setup with preamp lists at $500).
The prices:
Standard: Alder body, solid finishes $1350
Deluxe: Ash body, natural or transparent finishes $1450
Custom: laminated neck, three-piece body $1650
Artist: ??? even fancier ???
Add $150 for hardshell case, add $100 for five string, add $200 for
six-string.
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1571.8 | | PEKING::BARKERN | Dries in minutes | Tue Jun 30 1992 07:05 | 82 |
| Re .0
Why oh why has the Washburn Status been reviewed, when the real Mccoy
has been left out.
Time to rectify it.
Status Basses
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Status Basses are the finest Graphite Basses on the market at the
moment.
Developed in the Mid Eighties by Rob Green, they combine the finest
creftsmanship and materials with the most comprehensive p/u / circuits
available.
Basically they all revolve around the graphite neck. This is quite
similar in feel to a Music Man, and is totally consistent through out
all models. They come now in three main models Energy (bottom end
market around �875-) Bolt on 24 fret graphite neck, 2 jazz p/u's
and basically what is an active "tone" control, Vol and P/u fader
(front/rear) Although good in feel, I don't think that the bolt on
neck works, and you really are paying for the graphite. When you
consider that for the same price you can get a Wal or a Manson hand
built then I wouldn't splash out on one of these. None of the sound
charicteristics of the big brothers.
Series 2000
This is an all graphite model, and was the British answer to the
Steinberger. It has a full shaped body, two rather macho looking
horns (scuse the conotation) with excellent deep cut aways for access
to the top frets, of which again there are 24. The circuits on these
was Hyperactive, but is now something else (not sure) but they all
revolve around the same idea. The p/u's are Rob Green designed, and
are basically humbuckers (no real suprises) one at the bridge, and one
mid way between neck and mid body. The circuits are basically vol. p/u
fader (f/r) and bass and treble cut and boost circuits. These give
boosts from -15db to +15db of each frequency. The most effective
control though is the fader (as most bass players find). There is also
a small toggle switch to turn on/off the actives.
Playing these basses makes you realize how lively graphite is, but
also how punchy graphite basses are. The lows sing and never get
swamped by mud. They really have a modern bass sound.
The best of the bunch is the Status Series II. At around �1400- you
don't get one every day, and infact couldn't as the company only
complete 6 a month, and it takes about 10 weeks to build one.
Again the through graphite neck, but this time it is surrounded by
wooden wings. These are usually three ply, a facing wood, usually
very ornate but natural rather like a PRS finish. A middle sandwich
wood that is usually stained a funny colour to give the bass some
defined shape (you'll see what I mean if you look at one) and the rear
wood which is usually a solid lump of American Cherry or some other
blonde wood. My bass has got quilted Indian Larch as its facing wood
and sycamore as it's sandwich wood (stained blue) wit cherry on the
back. Beautiful..
As with all Statuses the hardware is origional and brass (sometimes it
is charcoal in colour, but mostly it is natural and you can still see
the machine marks on it- which I like 'cos it gives it a real look not
a plastic finish, and a sort of geometric quality to it.
The weighting of all the instruments is perfect when strapped on, but
sitting down it tends to be a little back heavy.
The company now does models of all of the above with the optional
headstock as well( for all you headstock freaks).
Anyway I'm not going on any more, 'cos you're all probably very bored.
Cheerios
Nigel
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1571.9 | more... | RICKS::CALCAGNI | sing like an eagle | Tue Jun 30 1992 08:58 | 9 |
| You don't really say, are there any sonic differences between the 2000
and the Series II? Or is it just cosmetic.
I can't recall exactly, but I think it was Mark King in a recent
article who said his one beef with the Status is that it plays *too*
evenly; you can't get any significant effect by moving your picking
hand towards or away from the bridge. Comments?
/rick
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1571.10 | | PEKING::BARKERN | Dries in minutes | Tue Jun 30 1992 09:29 | 22 |
| Re.-1
There is quite a difference between the two expensive basses, The
Series II is alot woodier, and consequantly has a greater tonal
variety. Mark King uses the 2000 mostly, and I would agree that on
his setting amp wise, there is little difference, if you use more mid
range than he does then the harmonics on the string are very apparent.
What I also forgot to say is that the action is incredibly low, lower
than most guitars are, and the intonation is spot on. They are all
fully set up before leaving the factory, and Status will always re do
it if you aint happy Free of Charge. I don't know anyone who isn't
happy however. In the four years that I've had it I haven't had to
touch the bridge, what so ever.
Rob Green has always been there to answer any questions that I may have in
person, and when I needed a new jack socket nut it was on my desk within
eight hours from them, in time for my gig, and again with no cost.
Basically they put alot of emphasis on customer satisfaction, and that
also counts for alot in my books.
Nigel
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1571.11 | PRS Basses Out Of Production | TECRUS::ROST | Give me Beefheart or give me death | Fri Jan 08 1993 07:33 | 10 |
| Followup to .6:
Paul Reed Smith no longer makes basses and will not even do them as a
custom order. Looks like these might be good collector's investments.
Add reggae great Robby Shakespeare to the list of PRS owners. His
advice to PRS in a recent interview: "Keep making those basses, mon".
Too late, Robbie 8;( 8;(
Brian
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1571.12 | hometown boy makes guitar | TUXEDO::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Fri Jan 08 1993 15:45 | 11 |
| Just as an aside, I was surprised to discover during my Christmas
vacation in Annapolis, MD (my home town) that PRS has offices or a
factory there. I gather that must be their home base. I just happened
to run across it when I was looking up music stores in the Yellow
Pages. No reason why this should be of any interest to anyone else - I
just thought it was a little unusual, since Annapolis is not exactly
what you would call a big industrial city 8*| I was thinking of
stopping by to see if they'd give me a tour, but ran out of time. Maybe
next vacation.
- Ram
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1571.13 | Tobias Acquired By Gibson | TECRUS::ROST | Give me Beefheart or give me death | Mon Jan 25 1993 15:10 | 6 |
| Well, the news is official: Gibson has bought up Tobias, and all
production is being moved to Nashville. Michael Tobias is staying on
as "consultant". We'll have to wait and see if this works out better
than it has for Steinberger (another Gibson subsidiary).
Brian
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1571.14 | World Class Basses From Amherst MA????? | TECRUS::ROST | Big Balls in Cowtown | Tue Mar 02 1993 15:02 | 8 |
| Just saw a blurb in Bass Player for basses from a David King of
Amherst, MA. Custom headless 5-string (looks like a Status) with ebony
board, body and neck of rare woods, custom wound pickups, etc. Prices
start at a mere $1000, the picture bass was $1300. If it plays and
sounds as good as it looks, a bargain. Being semi-local, I'd like to
check this guy out. Support the local economy and all....
Geezer Mc Kagan
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1571.15 | Campellone | RICKS::CALCAGNI | L'Angelo Minestronio | Wed Mar 03 1993 09:03 | 24 |
| Sounds worth checking out.
In a similar vein, I was slummin down in Rhode Island this weekend and
spotted a few Campellones for sale. Mark Campellone has been hand making
high end basses out of the smallest state for several years now. These
are gorgeous instruments, on par with the best from the high-profile
custom builders like Tobias, Ken Smith and Fodera. They're typically
maple neck through with multi-layer body wings of various exotic
hardwood, custom brass hardware and Bartolini electronics. The workmanship
on these is exquisite, but the best part is that Mark is also a monster
player and this is reflected in the playability of his instruments.
The basses I saw were a turquoise metallic 5-string fretted with
gold hardware and ebony board with cool "brainscan" inlay for $1200,
a figured walnut/maple/mahogany 5-string fretless also $1200, and
an all figured maple 6-string fretted for $1500. This last was Mark's
most recent bass, #89.
Attention Danny Weber: I hear Mark has been branching out into custom
archtops as well. Haven't seen any of these myself, but someone in
20th Century Guitar recently wrote very favorably about them. Sounded
very high quality at about half the expected price.
/rick
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1571.16 | | KADAFY::COOPER | Ex-Squeeze Me ? Baking Powder ? | Wed Mar 03 1993 09:40 | 2 |
| I think Will ought to log in here and tell us about his new bass...
It's purdy! Neck thru, 24 frets...What is it Will, an Alembic or ??
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1571.17 | 20th century guitars ? | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Thu Mar 04 1993 06:19 | 6 |
| Rick,
What is"20th Century Guitar" a magazine ?
Inquiring minds want to know
Mark
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1571.18 | Alembic Essence | CSC32::W_ALEXANDER | | Fri Mar 05 1993 08:22 | 34 |
| It's an Alembic Essence. It is reviewed in the 1993 bass players
buying guide. It has tone for days although I am still getting
used to playing way up on the neck since I am not used to having
the extra frets. It is great for slapping/popping but also works
for any other style including heavy metal. it has three knobs;
one volume, a trebble/bass tone control which is cool since the
output is balanced well beteween trebble and bass volume, but the
most usefull is the pickup pan. The bass has two active pickups,
one at the neck and one at the bridge. The neck position is great for
most applications but when soloing past the twelfth fret by panning
the pickup pan knob to the bridge pickup the tone is out of this world.
I typlically have it set to about 3/4th's neck pickup and 1/4 bridge,
since I find this best for all arround and I just use different a
attack for rock or funk and just set the tone to more bass for blues.
the pickup pan knob also has a detent at mid-position which when set
there has the perfect jazz tone (immho) which my Ibanez (P-bass clone)
could never acheive. I think the list is 1750 dollors and I found
that by brother-in-law, who is the manager of a large guitar store
chain and gets me cost+10 for anything and no sales tax (I am in
Colorado and he is in California and if anybody wants anything
for that send me mail off line) could get it for $1299 out the door
with case but he had this used one in perfect condition w/case
and shipping for $800. Some guy had just purchased it and then needed
some money %~(
Dana, a fellow DEC bass player stopped by yesterday to show me
this cool Midi bass he has (I cant remember the name though) and
asked how the sustain was on the Alembic with the thru the body neck
so I plucked a note (not an open string) and I think it finally
stopped this morning! Big time sustain.
Will
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1571.19 | | KDX200::COOPER | Hello me, it's me again! | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:35 | 6 |
| I second the sustain/tone comments... And I might add that the
bass LOOKS good too. I hate ugly basses.
Sure is nice playing with a bassist who can PLAY the fackin'
things... Man, you been taking lessons from Guido?
;-)
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1571.20 | Or starting to screech uncontrollably? | GOES11::G_HOUSE | It's NOT a TOOMAH! | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:45 | 3 |
| >Man, you been taking lessons from Guido?
Why? Is he getting worse?
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1571.21 | | KDX200::COOPER | Hello me, it's me again! | Fri Mar 05 1993 16:45 | 1 |
| :-)
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1571.22 | Ken Stein | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Sweet summer sweat | Mon Jun 28 1993 10:13 | 5 |
| I heard a group this weekend, and the bass player played a five string
he said was a Ken Stein. It sounded terrific. Is this a custom shop,
or is it even a high-end bass?
Dave
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1571.23 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | submit to Fred | Mon Jun 28 1993 10:31 | 1 |
| Never heard of these, tell us more!
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1571.24 | Here's all I know | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Sweet summer sweat | Mon Jun 28 1993 13:41 | 13 |
| I never heard of them either. The body was shaped almost exactly like
a Carvin (I have their catalog), with long, pointy horns and a neck-
through body. The finish was natural; the center (neck) part of the
body was lighter colored than the sides. No pickguard. It had two
pickups that looked like EMGs and sounded active. The headstock was a
traditional style (non-pointy), three keys left and two right, with an
ornate 'S' inlaid at the top, along with some other inlay between the
keys.
In reading through these replies, I notice there's a maker named Ken
Smith, but I'm sure the guy said this one was a Ken Stein.
Dave
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1571.25 | | TECRUS::ROST | Deja vu all over again | Mon Jun 28 1993 13:58 | 6 |
| The description sounds somewhat like a Ken Smith. Smith pickups have
exposed polepieces, unlike EMGs. They look kinda like Gibson
humbuckers. I wouldn't describe the Smith horns as "pointy" though.
So maybe it wasn't a Smith.
Brian
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1571.26 | | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Sweet summer sweat | Mon Jun 28 1993 15:30 | 15 |
| I didn't get a close enough look to see polepieces, but the horns were
definitely pointy, and longish and slender. I thought it was a Carvin
until I looked at the headstock. I seem to recall the owner saying it
was made on Long Island somewhere, or maybe Brooklyn; I don't hear too
well after a good set and a couple of beers. %^)
Actually, if anyone wants to check it out and hear some great music, the
group was the Herman Johnson Quintet; they play at Ryle's in Cambridge,
MA, every Friday and Saturday night. The guitarist blew me away, the
bassist was perhaps the best I've ever heard, the drummer was
outrageously good, and Herman's no slouch on tenor, either. And let me
know what that bass really is, and how I can get one without taking out
another mortgage.
Dave
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1571.27 | Hamer 12-string | RICKS::CALCAGNI | gray folded | Mon Sep 12 1994 09:16 | 39 |
| Went to the Music Expo in Boston yesterday and finally got to try out
one of those Hamer 12-string basses. For those who've never seen one,
it's strung as four groups of three; typical E-A-D-G with *two* octave
strings for each. These were popularized by Tom Peterson of Cheap
Trick and Doug Pinnick of King's X, although interestingly both players
seem to have stopped using them on their latest records.
I always wondered what the big deal was with these. Well, despite the
fact that I already own an 8-string bass (one octave string per), I
walked away from the Hamer thinking about some creative financing.
This is one beast of an instrument; each note is like a punch in the gut!
(I mean this as a good thing :-). Something about that extra octave
string just seems to work (as Nick Lowe once said of his twelve, "it
sounds like a train wreck"). The sound was big, rich, full, intoxicating.
I could've spent the whole afternoon fiddling with it. Pickups looked
like standard EMGs, three knobs (volume, balance, tone?). The bass
sounded good no matter where they were set; different colors, but all
of them usable.
You would think that with all those strings on the neck things would
get kind of crowded, but playing it was breeze. It felt comfortable
immediately, not too wide, and I had no trouble getting clearly fretted
notes right off the bat. The scale length is 30.5 inches, shorter than
the standard Fender 34". Shorter scale length means less string
tension and this was probably a very good idea on the twelve; this one
played like butter. Shorter scale also usually means less power in the
low end, but the nature of the twelve seems to make up for this. Trust
me, there is no lack of low end power with this monster.
Body style was a straightforward double cutaway, like an old LP Junior.
I think the body was maple, definitely a maple top, flat with a slight
flame, nice transparent golden-yellow stain. Hamer's twelve-string
headstock design is way cool; simple, functional and stylish. The bass
was a medium weight, not light but not uncomfortable, a little neck
heavy but again not much of a problem. Note that they also make a 35"
scale version of this instrument, but I would expect it to be
significantly more neck heavy and harder to play.
/rick_who's_got_some_new_blisters_on_his_fingers_today
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1571.28 | | GOES11::HOUSE | How could I have been so blind? | Mon Sep 12 1994 10:14 | 3 |
| > I could've spent the whole afternoon fiddling with it.
With 12 strings, you could have spent the whole afternoon TUNING it!
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1571.29 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Venimus, Vidimus, Coastimus | Mon Sep 12 1994 10:21 | 3 |
| >With 12 strings, you could have spent the whole afternoon TUNING it!
Not Rick ... Mr. ears of steel!
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1571.30 | clueless bass | RICKS::CALCAGNI | gray folded | Mon Sep 12 1994 12:31 | 4 |
| >>Not Rick ... Mr. ears of steel!
Uh oh, is that like "ears of tin"? You must've heard me play fretless!
|