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1535.1 | | PNO::HEISER | Celtics, Suns over Lakers, easily | Wed Oct 25 1989 19:54 | 4 |
| Danny, isn't Lee Ritenour considered a jazz player? What is your
opinion of him?
Mike
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1535.2 | Another One | CSC32::MOLLER | Nightmare on Sesame Street | Wed Oct 25 1989 20:20 | 11 |
| What about Gabor Szabo?? A minimalist in the area of guitar jazz.
For those of you who have never heard of him, if you've heard the
'GIPSY QUEEN' part of the Santana cut 'BLACK MAGIC WOMAN/GIPSY QUEEN',
you've heard Carlos Santana playing almost note for note Gabors
guitar part. He died a few years ago, but his albums are still out
there. He used only simple drums to back up his music, and as you
might have guessed, he was Hungarian & merged Jazz and Gypsy
Influences. Carlos Santana's sytle is highly influenced by
Gabor Szabo.
Jens
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1535.3 | what-who-what? | POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA | | Wed Oct 25 1989 22:18 | 1 |
| What about Al DiMeola? Is this guy jazz or fusion or what?
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1535.4 | | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | | Thu Oct 26 1989 09:29 | 6 |
| I'd consider both Lee Ritenour and Al DiMeola to be "Fusion"
players,and if you want to call them Jazz Fusion I suppose
you could but not strict Jazz player's.
Rick
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1535.5 | ! | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI | You dont give up, do you? | Thu Oct 26 1989 10:48 | 5 |
|
"Chromatic palette" by Tal Farlow is a nice album.
Joe Jasniewski
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1535.6 | Wow!! good stuff! | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | | Thu Oct 26 1989 10:52 | 27 |
| I would add to this list with the following:
Herb Ellis- Hello Herbie(Oscar Peterson trio)
Jim Hall- Live
Joe Puma- Chuck Wayne/Joe Puma-Interactions
Jack Wilkins-?
I totally agree with your All time greats,and most of the Almost
great's except for a few. I also agree with your opinion on the Overated
except for one,but I'm keeping mind it's really more of a public opinion
that these player's have become overated or a marketing ploy.
I'd agree with you on George Benson also and so would a lot of
people if they heard "Cookbook" I believe.
Of course the up and coming players seem so few and far between,
I'll have to check out Collins and Forman.
Joe Beck has been around for years doing the studio scene,I'm
kinda suprised he fall's into this category at all,he must have made some
changes.
Alot of good guitarist's and music,now to find place's where these
recording's can be bought!!!!!!
Thank's Danny!
Rick
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1535.7 | Pat Metheny, plus and minus | NEWVAX::PHARMON | | Thu Oct 26 1989 10:56 | 7 |
| I've been more or less disgusted with Pat Metheny's overall direction
since about his second album, but have you checked out some of the
solos on his latest ("Letter From Home")? Just in terms of his
command of jazz guitar technique and harmonic sophistication, I
wouldn't relegate him to the overrated heap...
Paul
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1535.8 | | RAINBO::WEBER | | Thu Oct 26 1989 18:19 | 33 |
| Random answers:
Rick expressed my feelings about Rit and DiMeola. I think Al is a
teriffic player and I have a number of his records, I just don't hear
any jazz in them. Rit is technically excellent, but virtually
everything I have heard from him is too pop for me.
I mentioned Szabo in the basenote. His earlier records showed an
incredible talent, and a strong, progressive bop flair. In the '60's,
he moved to a psychedelic-flavored pseudo-Indian sort of music that I
thing grew steadily more formulaic and boring.
Joe Beck seems to veer between jazz, fusion and elevator music. I think
he could be one of the greats if he would pick a direction and stick
with it. Same with my other "Jury is out' choices. Eubanks first couple
of records floored me, but his newer ones are synthed and vocalled
beyond what I like. Johnson is a second-rate Benson right now, but he
certainly has the chops to do better. Lagrene seems to have detoured
completely into rock-jazz after his promising start. I still have high
hopes for all these players, but it is true--the "Up & Coming" ranks
are still thin.
The recommended records are not necessarily the "best of". For example,
most of Herb Ellis's records are excellent, but none stands out as
being significantly better than his others. Kessel really only plays
one way, but it's a great way, so if you like his style (I do), you'll
like most of his records. Burrell, on the other hand, has a wide range,
and I've selected records that reflect this.
Danny W.
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1535.9 | Jaaaaaaaaaazzzz.... | POBOX::DAVIA | That hammer done killed John Henry | Thu Oct 26 1989 19:40 | 33 |
|
Great to see Bruce Foreman get a nod. Bruce played in Richie
Cole's band for several years. Some great be-bop guitar can be heard
on some of those Richie Cole albums. He got a mention in the downbeat
musicians poll, although I don't know if he has any solo records
out.
I agree with what's been said about DiMeola. He's great, but it's
not what I would call Jazz. Always liked his acoustic guitar playing
better than his electric playing.
McLaughlin has often played that style of Jazz (?) which borders
on irritating, but for some reason I like it occasionally. Whatever.
I can only hope that Pat Martino can continue his comeback.
What about Tuck Andres ??? Has anyone heard of Fareed Hacque(sp)??
He also got a mention in the downbeat poll, and plays here in Chicago
fairly often. Haven't checked him out yet.
This conference really needed this note! Thanks!
Phil
Phil
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1535.10 | another opinion..... | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | | Mon Oct 30 1989 13:50 | 10 |
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re. 7 Paul....
"Letter from Home" was a letdown for me and I find myself
wanting to listen to more of his earlier stuff or someone else... I
also felt "Still life Talking" was dissapointing,but his "Pat Metheny
Group" release I liked.(I realize I'm going backwards in release's)
I don't believe his technique or sophistication categorizes him as much
as his musical direction/musicality. His first couple of albums are
more guitar oriented,whereas his newer stuff is more ensemble focused.
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1535.11 | Yep... | NEWVAX::PHARMON | | Tue Oct 31 1989 12:47 | 12 |
| re: .10
I agree with you. I thought "Bright Size Life" was a classic for
all time; to me, it was a really hopeful indication that the guitar
trio format still has a lot of untapped potential (although sometimes
overdubbing made it a quartet). I've been kind of let down by his
direction since just because I really hoped he would keep developing
that. I also thought Pat's playing on Gary Burton's "Dreams So Real"
was really good, not because of chops, but just because of the melodic
quality of his improvisations on some pretty challenging tunes.
Paul
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1535.12 | | THRUST::CLARK | | Thu Nov 02 1989 13:08 | 15 |
| RE: .0
Maybe you're already aware of the existence of a volume in the
Time/Life "Giants of Jazz" series (now discontinued) devoted to "The
Guitarists". It doesn't really address modern jazz guitar, but it's
pretty good for what it covers. A 3-LP set, available at Boston-area
libraries.
Noone seems to have mentioned the electric guitarist on the Lester
Young Kansas City 5s/6s Commodore recordings -- the name escapes me at
the moment, but I think I'd have recognized it if it was present.
1939, great music, with a couple of guitar solos that IMO almost match
Prez's sax & clarinet contributions. Maybe not one of the greats, but
one of the first sounds (if not names) that came to mind when I saw
this note. - Jay
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1535.13 | first electric jazzer | MOSAIC::WEBER | | Fri Nov 03 1989 08:30 | 13 |
| re: .12
Eddie Durham is the name of the guitarist on the KC5/6 sessions. Eddie
is probably the first guitarist to make recordings using a pickup--in
1935!
His biggest claim to fame is that he influenced Charlie Christian to
take up electric, therebye changing the course of jazz guitar history.
Most of Eddie's career has been spent arranging, rather than guitar
playing, so I didn't list him.
Danny W.
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1535.14 | Scofield playing jazz??? | POBOX::DAVIA | Drinkin' mash, talkin' trash | Fri Nov 10 1989 11:29 | 18 |
| Scofield tonight at the Jazz Showcase.
Well, I'm going to Chicago's premiere (only!!) be-beop club to see
John Scofield. The only Scofield I ever heard was a few nice licks
on a Jay McShann album. From the discussions that I heard in this
notes file, Scofield doesn't seem to be a straight ahead jazzer.
I'm assuming/hoping that since he is playing at the Showcase, he
will playing JAZZ, not fusion, or blues. I'll enter a review on
Monday.
The most overrated "jazz guitarist" must surely be Bill Frisel.
Downbeat did a feature article on Frisel, and he was rated highly
in the downbeat guitarist poll (this seems to be meaningless!).
They focused on all the electronic MIDI stuff that he is into, and
some of his musical interests/background.
A friend of mine bought a new CD and played it for me. What trash!!
Some of this was painful electronic noise.
Phil
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1535.15 | Why I Hate Labels, Part 436 | AQUA::ROST | Subliminal trip to nowhere | Fri Nov 10 1989 13:10 | 10 |
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Re: .14
I guess it depends what you think "jazz" is. I like Frisell, I like
Jim Hall. What Frisell does is nothing like what Hall does. Are they
both jazz guitarists? Who knows, but Frisell's albums don't appear in
the rock bins and he's played with artists known as jazz artists so you
figure it....
Brian
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1535.16 | Labels/ Scofield.... | POBOX::DAVIA | Drinkin' mash, talkin' trash | Tue Nov 14 1989 11:39 | 49 |
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re. 15
I guess you're right; labels give us expectations which may be
totally unreasonable. i.e. My thinking that Bill Frisell's new album
would be a jazz album because he was in "downbeat". Record stores tend to
classify a lot of music that's out of the mainstream (pop, F.M. rock, etc.)
as jazz. "Gee, I don't where else to put it..." That's why so many
diverse styles get thrown into the jazz bins at record stores.
Speaking of expectations, I saw John Scofield Friday night. It was
interesting music, some of which I really liked; some of which
bored me. His band was a trio, with an upright bassist. Scofield
played an Ibanez ES-335 copy. I forget the model number, but my
friend had one 6-7 years ago. Highly figured wood, ebony fretboard,
abalone inlays. I couldn't tell what kind of amps he was using,
Two small black units each with 1 speaker. He also had foot switchable
board with different effects.
Scofield's tunes were all new, so he didn't have names for them
yet, just numbers. His playing reminded me of John McLaughlin,
with lots of short, complex lines, but much more melodic. He didn't
play a lot of chords, and without a piano, the music often tended to
be harmonically void. Many of the tunes were fast and complex, some
that were exciting, and some that were just lots of notes. Even
the tunes that didn't sound very good to my ear, were interesting
to watch. That's because I'm studying guitar now, I'm sure.
The audience, which looked more like a rock audience than anything
I've seen at the Showcase before, really dug it.
My favorite tune was a very slow number, with nice moving chords and
well thought out melodic lines.
His playing was really good, but two things about the bands sound
bothered me. One was the lack of hamony. It's tiring hearing constant
guitar solos. Also, Scofield used a chorus effect on EVERY tune!! After
about the 4th tune, I was really wishing that he would shut the damn
thing off. There were times when he was playing some really nice
stuff but I had to fight through all the effects just to hear what he
was doing. I would have liked his set much better, had he just played
straight into the amp, so we could hear all the notes. While, I
like the chorus, his effects were a nuisance after a while.
All in all, it was worth the time and money to check this guy out.
His playing didn't floor me, but I liked it. I'll buy something
if I like the player enough. Scofield's latest album? I'll have to hear
it first!
Phil
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1535.17 | Metheny Musings | MOSAIC::WEBER | | Tue Nov 28 1989 16:18 | 24 |
| From Stereo Review, 12/89 issue, p142, re: "Letters From Home"
"While I can admire guitarist Pat Metheny's musicianship, it is often
difficult for me to admire his albums. This new Geffen release plods
along listlessly and becomes interesting only on those rare occasions
when Metheny takes charge, but even then the proceedings are marred by
excessive echo... Why he allows his guitar to be drowned in a morass of
trite background vocals and programmed synthesizers is beyond me"
From Jazz notesfile , 8/89, by Danny W.
"My real problems with Pat are his ...tone, which I find overly
processed and his reliance on folkish melodies that I find both dull
and forgettable.... mostly, the digital delays, the synthesizers and
Nana Vasconcelos singing turn me off."
Apparently I'm not the only listener who thinks that Pat could make
better music if he got down to basics. Since he just won the db readers
poll, I'd think we're in the minority, except that it only takes about
0.5% of their readers to win!
Danny W.
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1535.18 | Jim Hall? | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Thu Dec 14 1989 14:00 | 2 |
| Has anyone heard or seen the new Jim Hall release from
Concord?????
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1535.19 | | POBOX::DAVIA | Drinkin' mash, talkin' trash | Thu Dec 14 1989 16:25 | 9 |
|
-1,
Haven't looked for it in the store, but this month's Jazz Times
does a review on a new Jim Hall album. Check out the magazine,
or hell, just buy the record. What a great player!
phil
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1535.20 | | TOOTER::WEBER | | Fri Dec 15 1989 08:39 | 18 |
| If you are referring to "All Across the City", I've only played it twice,
but it seems typical of Jim recently--a mix of moods, a slightly
outside feel to some of the numbers. Jim is working with a piano trio,
which is an unusual setting for him.
Jim sounds great, as usual. I like it a lot.
GP this month has an article on Howard Alden. I have a few of his
Concord CD's and he's very good, though his style is more swing than
bop. He has a terrific sound (a Gibson HR Custom through a Mk II
Boogie!!) and swings like crazy.
Also recent on Concord, "Doggin' Around"--Herbie and Ray Brown live--is
great.
Danny W.
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1535.21 | Time To Check Out Those Concords | AQUA::ROST | Everyone loves those dead presidents | Fri Dec 15 1989 08:49 | 6 |
|
I was surprised to see the photo of Howard, he's so young! I have the
Benny Carter CD listed in the discography, and there's no pix, but from
the sound I would have expected a 50 year old....wow!!
Brian
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1535.22 | Two questions: | PNEUMA::JOHNSON | | Fri Dec 15 1989 15:17 | 13 |
|
Help! Does anyone know what Jim Hall is using for an amplifier now a
days?
Second question. (I think Danny might have the answer.) How does
the Polytone Mini Brut II compare to a Roland JC-55?
Thanks in advance.
bob j
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1535.23 | two answers | MOSAIC::WEBER | | Mon Dec 18 1989 09:32 | 8 |
| re: -.1
Jim Hall is using a Polytone MB.
I've never played a Roland JC-55, but I haven't liked the JC's I have
played.
Danny W.
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1535.24 | | ASAHI::COOPER | Fleas Navidawg ! | Mon Dec 18 1989 09:42 | 5 |
| One night Steve Dandrea used a JC55 (I think it was a 55)... Man
that little sucker ROCKED ! Blew my ears out, and thats not easy
to do !
jc
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1535.25 | They're loud enough, but..... | RAVEN1::DANDREA | Fry Zsa Zsa, Free James Brown | Mon Dec 18 1989 10:39 | 12 |
| RE: JC 55
I borrowed a JC55 one night for a gig. It's rated at 25 watts per
channel (RMS). It really kicked ass volume wise, but the tone was very
"different". I had to use the tube screamer to get the sound I wanted.
I wouldn't buy one for the stuff we're playing. (Classic rock). I
would envision the JC series sounding very "nice" for Jazz, using some
hollow body electric Gibson or Guild or whatever.
FWIW,
Steve
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1535.26 | brain flash | TOOTER::WEBER | | Mon Dec 18 1989 16:57 | 9 |
| re: .20
Oops--the bassist on "Doggin' Around" is Red Mitchell. Still great
music, though the recording suffers from some distortion.
re: Hall's amp. For many years, Jim used a Gibson GA50 from the late
'50's, but I suspect he leaves it home most of the time.
Danny W.
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1535.27 | Jazz player q's | POBOX::DAVIA | Drinkin' mash, talkin' trash | Wed Jan 03 1990 16:21 | 17 |
|
Although I've heard his name for some time, I just listened to Grant
Green for the first time. I bought a CD this weekend, although the
name of the album escapes me. The guitar playing on this desk is
outstanding. I've never heard such full, clear tones. Excellent.
Grant is pictured on the front cover playing a hollowbody electric
(17" I imagine) with no cutaway, but I can't see the name of the guitar.
I'm wondering what sort of guitar he is playing on this album. Again,
the tone is incredible.
Also, for Joe Pass fans out there... On the Virtuoso series (Pablo)
did Joe play his D'Aquisto electric unamped, into a microphone??
Phil
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1535.28 | Grant Green | TOOTER::WEBER | | Thu Jan 04 1990 15:07 | 23 |
| On the cover of Grant Green's "Idle Moments", he is pictured with what
appears to be a late '40's Gibson L-12 with a "Fingerrest Pickup".
This was Gibson's first reasonably successful attempt at adding a
pickup to an archtop without serious acoustic degradation, and until
the Johnny Smith pickup was introduced, was available factory installed
or for retrofitting. The pickup is equivalent to a P-90.
Green played as ES-330 on many of his recordings and still managed to
get that beautiful tone, which just proves what I always tell players
looking for the same guitar as their hero--it's mostly in the fingers.
If I could sound like Wes just by playing a '60's L-5 CES, or Kenny by
playing a Super 400, I'd be all set :-). Towards the end of his life,
Green had a D'Aquisto New Yorker which really complemented his style.
Green seems to be unfairly overlooked by history. He was very
influential in the '50's and recorded prolifically for a period, but he
was eclipsed by Wes. Many people thought Green copied Wes, but in fact,
the opposite was true--Wes took combined Charlie Christian's swing and
blues feel with Green's legato, lush sound, and took it too new
heights. I suspect that without Green's influence, Wes would have been
more like Kessel: a highly skilled disciple of Christian.
Danny W.
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1535.29 | The clearest tone... | POBOX::DAVIA | Drinkin' mash, talkin' trash | Thu Jan 04 1990 15:34 | 17 |
|
Thanks for the informative response Mr. Weber. I checked the album
(CD really) and the name is "Born to be Blue", recorded in 1961 with
saxophonist Ike Quebec. Aside from the title tune, a nice version
of "Someday My Prince Will Come" in a boppin' 4/4 time, instead
of the standard waltz. I dig those changes!
You're so right about guitars/guitarists. I've got an L-5CES and
I don't sound anything like Pat Martino.
But wait... Mine has a Venetian cutaway, Pat's has a Florentine...
Right??!!! That must be it!! And to think I've been practicing scales
and arpeggios and all I needed was a pointed cutaway!!! :-) ;-)
Phil
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1535.30 | Stop, go, stop, go go go! | CMBOOT::EVANS | if you don't C# you'll Bb | Fri Jan 05 1990 05:51 | 15 |
|
re.28 (sort of)
Anyone noticed that on the title track "Idle Moments" the pianist
(can't remember his name) about half way through the track plays
typical ending sequences. He tries about 4 times to wind the tune up
but the rest of the band are in that lazy groove & keep going. It's
really funny, every time I hear it I imagine the pianist with a look of
panic on his face & the rest all laid back with eyes closed soaking up
the vibes. I think my copy has some mention of it on the sleeve notes,
I'll have to dig it out. I love that album though, Grant Green is very
much the cocktail bar Jazzman, really cool.
Cheers
Pete.
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1535.31 | Grant again | TOOTER::WEBER | | Fri Jan 05 1990 09:20 | 8 |
| Another look at the cover shows that Grant's guitar is really an L-7.
There isn't much of it showing, so it's hard to tell, but the binding
looks like that on an L-7.
I remember seeing him sometime in the early '60's with a non-cut, blond
Epi Emperor, also fitted with a Gibson Fingerrest Pickup.
Danny W.
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1535.32 | Eddie Duran's "Ginza" | MOSAIC::WEBER | | Fri Jun 29 1990 12:02 | 12 |
| I had mentioned previously that I thought Eddie Duran to be very
underrated. I had based this statement on having seen him once in SF
and having a few of his records on the Fantasy label, both as leader
and as sideman to Vince Guaraldi.
During Concord's recent house-cleaning sale, I picked up "Ginza"
(CJ-94). Recorded in 1979, this is a fabulous trio record. Duran's
playing is teriffic, showing strong Raney & Montgomery influence,
combined with a great sound and touch. Filled with excellent mainstream
jazz guitar playing and highly recommended.
Danny W.
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1535.33 | Jim Hall again | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Aug 10 1990 12:01 | 22 |
| When asked to name my favorite guitarists I usually say Wes, Kenny,
Barney ...Herb...uh, Tal...oh, Johnny...hmmm.
Listening to Jim Hall's "Across The City" CD for the 40th time this
week, it occurred to me just how good he really is. Considering that I
have records of his from the '50's, it is amazing how modern he sounds.
The range of the playing on his records is also amazing. (I counted 24
in my collection with Jim as leader, many more as sideman.) He writes
great tunes, too.
On "Drop Shot", an rather atonal, quirky melody plays over an
infectious bassline; Jim's solo starts with a perfect blues phrase,
gets more and more non-linear over chromatic chords and winds up
perfectly in tune in a nice bop flourish. I love it!
Jim rarely plays fast, but he seems to have enough technique for what
he plays, and every note he plays is perfectly selected, polished and
displayed. Each new release moves him up in my estimation. Wes, Kenny,
Jim...
Danny W.
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1535.34 | w/ Red Mitchell..nice..... | POBOX::DAVIA | Hey Monk, is that a new hat?? | Mon Aug 13 1990 20:06 | 7 |
|
Jim is great. On the recordings I have of him, he turns down his volume
almost completely when comping. This "acoustic" comping really lets him
bash out some extended harmony without getting in the way of the other
musicians (trios in particular). D'Angelico New Yorker Danny??
Phil
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1535.35 | D'Angelico it is | RANGER::WEBER | | Tue Aug 14 1990 09:43 | 6 |
| re -.1
D'Angelico New Yorker Special Electric. Jim's custom instrument graces
the cover of a number of his records.
Danny W.
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1535.36 | Recent Jazz CD's | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Nov 16 1990 16:24 | 81 |
| Short reviews of some recent jazz guitar CD's
John Scofield's "Time On My Hands" has received excellent reviews,
which referred to his return to playing bop and use of less distortion.
I had high hopes for this album, but was extremely disappointed. I
still can't figure out what John's fans like about his playing. To me,
it seems rambling, unfocused and pedestrian. His tone on this recording
has an ugly, distorted sound--not the kind of sweet, singing distortion
most fuzak players would use, it just sounds like his amp is running
out of steam. The originals are uninteresting and forgettable. I played
this through three times to see if it would grow on me, but it didn't.
Pat Metheny's "Questions and Answers" is also billed as a return to
roots concept. When I first played it, I was a little put off by the
first track, on which Pat plays virtually no chords. On later tracks,
Pat remembers that guitars have six strings, and plays a nice mix of
chords and single string lines. Overall, this is a great recording,
showing that Pat doesn't need to hide behind electronics to get his
message across. I suspect most Metheny fans will dislike this album. My
only complaint is that Pat's tone is too dark and echoey--he can't
quite bring himself to turn the reverb down. Oh, yeah--compare Roy
Haynes playing on this date to that of the other drummers with whom Pat
has played. Roy easily blows them all away. My thanks to Mr. Busenbark
for recommending this to me.
Yet another player getting back to jazz is Lee Ritenour on "Stolen
Moments." I was knocked out by this record--it is truly excellent. A
good variety of moods, great chops and sound from Rit, nice tunes.
Outstanding! I hopes he keeps making records in this vein--the last
record of his that I bought ("Harlequin"? w/ Grusin) was dismal. I've
played this one a lot. Nit--the liner notes claim that the guitar used
is an "L-5 Electric." It's obviously an L-5C with a JS pickup.
It would probably surprise many people to know that Andre Previn first
made his reputation in the '50's as a jazz player; for at least 25
years, he has been renown as a classical musician. "After Hours" shows
that Previn is still an outstanding jazz musician; his playing alone
would make this record worthwhile. Teamed with Joe Pass and Ray Brown,
he produces one of the standout jazz records of the last few years.
Every track is a gem. Pass does some of his best playing since the
Quadrant sessions and Brown is flawless as both bassist and drum
substitute. His playing is so solid that I almost won't complain about
the lack of drums :-). The surprise is Previn, who is in excellent
form.
Previn also carries the day on "Uptown", which replaces Pass with
Mundell Lowe. This record has more of a swing sound, and has a little
lower energy level. Lowe is not as good a soloist as Pass, and the
overall interaction is not as good, either. Not a bad record, but not
quite great.
Discovering a "new" Grant Green record is always exciting, especially
when he is standing in for John Coltrane with John's 1965 group. The
results are not as I'd hoped--Grant's spare solo style doesn't fill in
enough of the spaces that McCoy Tyner leaves. Elvin Jones is also not
the quite the right drummer for Green. A good example of the problem is
on "My Favorite Things", which Coltrane would tear up on Soprano--Green
just doodles over the modal vamp. Again, this isn't terrible, but it's
obvious why it wasn't released when it was recorded.
Guitar and vibes together makes my favorite instrumentation. From the
Montgomery Brothers to "Bags Meets Wes", to the band with which I
played in the mid-'60's, to Kessel's great album with Bobby Hutcherson,
I've never gotten enough of this sound. I was especially excited to
find Kenny Burrell's "Guiding Spirit": I can't remember him ever teamed
with a vibes player before. I wish I liked the results more, but Kenny
seems very laid back and introspective on this live recording. It's
very pretty, but I'd have to put it in the category of great background
music.
I'll readily agree that Tuck Andress is an incredible player. The start
of the first track of "Reckless Precision" made me sit bolt upright:
halfway through the track, I realized it wasn't going anywhere else; by
the middle of the CD I was bored. This reminds me of that other
wunderkind, Stanley Jordan, in that the technique is more amazing than
the end product. Like Jordan's, his tone is bright and tinkly. Some
parts of the record remind me of Hedges' "Aerial Boundaries."
"Precision" is a fine album when taken in small doses, but I prefer to
hear Andress in the company of other musicians.
Danny W.
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1535.37 | To each his own... | TALOFA::HARMON | Paul Harmon, DECtp/East | Mon Nov 19 1990 12:34 | 24 |
| re: Scofield
Isn't it great that music has something for everybody? I would apply
the adjectives you used on John Scofield to some jazz guitarists I
know you think highly of. And to me, the originals on "Time On My
Hands" are interesting and distinctive...I found out about the album
because I tuned into the middle of one of them on the radio. I knew
immediately that Scofield had something new out. I also think Sco's
approach to self-accompaniment on this album is a refreshing break from
business as usual in that area.
I will agree with you to an extent about his tone...I think he's looking
for a degree of distortion that will let him play chords and single
notes whenever he wants. That would be a real problem if he used typical
fuzak (see? I have my biases, too 8^) distortion. Why he wants to use
distortion at all in this context is beyond me. I'd rather hear a nice,
clean archtop.
I haven't read any reviews of "Time On My Hands", but if critics are
billing it as a return to bebop, I think they're being very misleading.
Probably they're trying to relate everything they hear to a current
trend whether it applies or not.
Paul
|
1535.38 | some more info.... | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Mon Nov 19 1990 14:05 | 33 |
|
Since I picked up Q an A,I have also picked up "Stolen Moments"
and "Reckless".
I've probably played Metheny to death,to the point that my 11yr
old son can identify him playing. But specifically Q and A,gets a couple
of plays a week instead of a daily dose. I've never been a tremendous
Metheny fan(sacrilege where I came from)but I no doubt rate his Q and A,
as the best I've heard him on record. I also picked up Burton's "Reunion"
which features GB,Pat and a bunch of NYC studio musicians,I actually
enjoy "Reunion" more.......with "Reunion" it seems like Burton and
Metheny sound out of place of the back up band...
"Stolen Moments" is without question a nice release for Lee
Rit,and about time. The L5C tone/sound is impressive and one of my favorites
on "SM" which has nice instrumentation arrangements/solo's other than
guitar... I got kinda tired of Rit after 1980....this was a pleasant
suprise....
After some play time I was more impressed with Tuck Andress's playing
ability of some of the more pop-ish and standard tunes,than anything he
composed. His compositions lack direction and are boring. I'd be hard pressed
to compare him to SJ who I've never heard anything he played that I liked....
to muzakish for me....
Now to John Sco....still a mystery to me as I have never heard him,
but have heard other people playing his tunes...... :^) I guess someday
I'll take a chance as I've gotten a couple of recomendations of his
release's.
I've noticed that "Guitar Player" Mag is advertising some kind of
Jazz guitars greatest CD,has anyone heard this yet? Opinion's?
Rick
|
1535.39 | who IS this guy? | DEMING::CLARK | psychedelic music fills the air | Mon Nov 26 1990 10:10 | 9 |
| As a sometime couch potato who watches "Nick at Night" a fair
amount, I have one question ...
Who is the guitarist in Fernwood Tonight's Happy Kine and the
Mirthmakers? Every time they get a chance to play he goes nuts
with all these amazing jazz runs. He looks like he's trashed
most of the time, but when it comes time to play, he's great.
- Dave
|
1535.40 | Tommy Tedesco | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Nov 26 1990 13:59 | 17 |
| The Fernwood guitarist is studio great, GP columnist and part-time
jazz musician Tommy Tedesco. Tommy has some albums out under his own
name, a few of which I own. I'd call them very good, but not great.
Tommy's playing on them is first rate, but they're somewhat low-key and
one occasionally veers towards New Age.
Tommy is a very versatile player who has made a studio speciality of
non-classical nylon-string guitar. Almost any pop tune or movie score
from the late '60's or '70's that had a nylon-string part probably
featured Tommy. "Up,Up & Away" is a good example of the kind of playing
he likes to do.
The joke with the Mirthmakers is that they're all outstanding musicians
and far hipper than they pretend.
Danny W.
|
1535.41 | | PNO::HEISER | GTS � - $billions$ served! | Mon Nov 26 1990 14:07 | 8 |
| Re: Tommy Tedesco
Our summer music camp teacher used a lot of info out of T.T.'s music
theory book. From what I saw of the few pages he used, it looks like
a decent book. Anyone have it? Would you recommend it?
Thanks,
Mike
|
1535.42 | whaddaya know! | GOOROO::CLARK | psychedelic music fills the air | Mon Nov 26 1990 14:27 | 5 |
| wow! I thought it looked like TT (albeit a much younger TT). After
all, how many big greasy italian-looking guys are also great guitar
players?
thanks - Dave
|
1535.43 | a few | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Nov 26 1990 17:01 | 12 |
| re: .42
Just off the top of my head:
Joe Puma, Joe Pass, John Pisano, Carmen Mastren, Remo Palmier(i), Joe
Diorio,Tony Mottola, Al Caiola, Al Viola, Bucky & John Pizzarelli, Sal
Salvador and Tony Rizzi.
;-) ;-)
Danny W.
|
1535.44 | Banking? | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Dave | Tue Nov 27 1990 11:48 | 8 |
| re: .-1
Wow! I never thought of that.
Geez, no jewish sports legends, no jewish guitar greats,...
If we're the "chosen people" tell me what the hell we were chosen
for?
|
1535.45 | everyone is good at something | PNO::HEISER | GTS � - $billions$ served! | Tue Nov 27 1990 12:12 | 14 |
| There are a lot of great Italian guitarists! As for my heritage, there
are a lot of great German composers, but that is old news ;-)
> Geez, no jewish sports legends, no jewish guitar greats,...
what about lawyers, doctors, etc.? The ones that make consistent,
decent livings. Maybe the music industry is too unstable for them ;-)
> If we're the "chosen people" tell me what the hell we were chosen
> for?
God's people!
Mike
|
1535.46 | If you're counting.. | ROYALT::TASSINARI | Bob | Tue Nov 27 1990 12:59 | 2 |
|
Wasn't Sandy Koufax Jewish?
|
1535.47 | Still thinking... | ELWOOD::HERTZBERG | I'm the NEA | Tue Nov 27 1990 13:10 | 3 |
| Koufax, yes.
In the guitar world, we have David Bromberg.
|
1535.48 | Oy! | RICKS::CALCAGNI | hit that long lunar note, and let it float | Tue Nov 27 1990 15:13 | 1 |
| well, there's Mike Bloomfield for starters
|
1535.49 | Chosen indeed | RANGER::WEBER | | Tue Nov 27 1990 17:05 | 3 |
| How about Barney Kessel and Emily Remler? Feel better now?
Danny W.
|
1535.50 | How does it feel!!! | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Tue Nov 27 1990 19:27 | 9 |
| I believe there are lot's of Jewish performers in the folk music
world. Isn't Bob Dylan Jewish? I think his real name is something
like Robert Zimmerman.
BTW, didn't EMily Remler recently die ? I remember reading about
a female jazz player that died at an extremely young age, like
32.
Mark
|
1535.51 | Young forever | BHUNA::IGOLDIE | Makin' love like crazed weasels | Wed Nov 28 1990 03:09 | 7 |
| Emily Remler died about 2 months ago from a heart-attack.
STAYNZ
|
1535.52 | my favorite blues player ... | GOOROO::CLARK | psychedelic music fills the air | Wed Nov 28 1990 09:40 | 2 |
| Blues ace Ronnie Earl is really named Ronnie Earl Horvath. If that
ain't Jewish, I don't know what is!
|
1535.53 | Little Guitar Blues Jr. II | AQUA::ROST | Drink beer: Live 6 times longer | Wed Nov 28 1990 11:48 | 7 |
| Re: .52
Ronnie says he changed his name because the guys from Chicago couldn't
pronounce it...I still remember when he went by "Little Ronnie
Horvath".
Brian
|
1535.54 | But Felix Pappalardi was Italian... | STAR::DONOVAN | | Thu Nov 29 1990 10:05 | 7 |
|
Isn't Leslie West Jewish also? I'm fairly sure "West" isn't
his complete last name.
I *still* love the "Misssissippi Queen" riff...
Brian
|
1535.55 | today I am a mountain | RICKS::CALCAGNI | hit that long lunar note, and let it float | Thu Nov 29 1990 10:18 | 2 |
| Yeah, good one. I remember an interview with Leslie where
he mentions buying his first guitar with his bar mitzvah money!
|
1535.56 | Howard Alden/Van Eps | RANGER::WEBER | | Wed Aug 28 1991 12:36 | 19 |
| Two recent Concord Jazz CD releases by Howard Alden:
" Snowy Morning Blues" is excellent--Alden has been steadily
improving and on this record he is starting to look like a star. My
favorite track is the infectiously swinging "Bye-Ya" which has had my
synapses tied up for weeks. Great rhythm section, nice solos, good
album.
"13 Strings" is a surprise. The other 7 strings in the title are
supplied by the legendary George Van Eps, who practically invented
chord-melody guitar playing, and has been shamefully under-recorded (by
his own choice, most likely, but a shame nonetheless). At 78, George
still cooks, and he and Alden are extremely well matched. This
extremely pleasant set shows how well George does with a rhythm
section, a rare setting for him.. Alden cooks throughout. Another
winner.
Danny W.
|
1535.57 | not recent but available.... | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Tue Jan 07 1992 12:27 | 42 |
|
"The Concord Jazz Guitar Series Collection I and II" Some of
the featured Guitarist's are Kenny Burrell,Howard Roberts,Joe
Pass,Herb Ellis.... to name a few. This release which seems
to be a collection of recordings in the late seventies and early
eighties and is a nice variety of players. I noticed later it was a
1990 release and with each player they mention brand and model of
guitar used......
Jim Hall's All across the City,one of Jim's more interesting
recent releases with a suprise of Gil Goldstein on piano this CD seems
to be pretty good. It has a tendancy to go to the edge of being a bit
outside. But having listened to Jim Hall for some time I can still hear
some "classic" Hall tone and chops I remember from his "Live" release.
Just Friends(a tribute to Emily Remler)Herb Ellis,some real
traditional tone on this CD,but the first cut has a fusion type sound
musically,without the typical distortion/chorus etc. Dave Benoit is
on a couple of cuts.There are a few unknown to little known players
(to me anyway)on this one. There are some really good cuts with some
players which have some nice lines.
Alien Army,Jack Wilkins,a total dis-appointment from a guitarist
I heard in the 70's and liked. Even though he still seems to have lot's
of chops,I find the arrangements and background of the music aggravating
with poorly done string arrangements(synthe)and obvious mixing problems.
The use of a distortion pedal makes some of this a real sleeper for me,as
it definately sounds like he needs to replace his MXR Distortion+. A definate
dust collector to my ears.
There are actually 2 Oscar Peterson Reunion CD's both recorded at the Blue
Note in NYC with ,OP,Herb Ellis,Ray Brown(on Telemarc)Having been a fan
of OP for some time and especially with Herb Ellis it was nice to see a
reunion CD,however being a live recording I found it very hard to hear
Herb Ellis at times.
13 Strings,Howard Alden and George Van Eps,has already been
reviewed,real good stuff!
Rick
|
1535.58 | Johnny's guest tonight are..." | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Jan 10 1992 08:43 | 13 |
| It is not often that a real jazz guitarist shows up on network TV, but
those of you who watched Johnny Carson on Wednesday got to see one of
the best. Jim Hall appeared with his quartet doing two tunes. The first
was one of his typically quirky, angular, atonal pieces, the name of
which escapes me now (it wasn't "Careful") and the second was a
lovely reading of "Skylark", which is on my list as one of the most
difficult (albeit beautiful) tunes ever written.
I didn't think Jim was at the top of his form, but even subpar Jim Hall
is light years beyond anything else I've heard on TV recently. Too bad
TV guide listed him as "Comedian Jim Hall".
Danny W.
|
1535.59 | Wes tribute issue, Hall album | RANGER::WEBER | | Tue Oct 13 1992 15:38 | 16 |
| In 1987 I wrote to Guitar Player, asking them to consider doing an
issue dedicated to Wes Montgomery during 1988, the 20th anniversary of
his untimely death. No reply (quoting The Beatles).
With the 25th anniversary approaching, I wrote them again, enclosing my
original letter, and pointing out that there has been precious little
in the pages of GP for jazz fans. I received a letter from Dominic
Milano, the editor, saying that they are considering such an issue for
sometime in '93. Watch for it.
The name of the Jim Hall tune I mentioned in .58 is "Subsequently",
which is the title of a CD full of really nice stuff by Jim. The title
tune is a standout, but I like most of the rest of it, too.
Danny W.
|
1535.60 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Tue Oct 13 1992 16:14 | 18 |
|
Danny, I wrote to them years ago when I found out about
Pat Martino's blot clot (forget the lingo). I couldn't
believe that they wouldn't write about him considering
his impact on so many guitarists.
Never answered. Finally I called. They said they had
been in touch with Pat and he asked that they not write
about his illness.
Not sure what this has to do with your note but it reminded
me of my thing with GP.
Btw, if anyone hears of anything new by Pat (after his comeback
live album), I'd love to know about it.
Thanks - Tom
|
1535.61 | Maybe I'm just getting too old | BSS::STPALY::MOLLER | Fix it before it breaks | Tue Oct 13 1992 18:19 | 6 |
| I stoped reading GP because thier emphasis was too much on agressive
Rock & Metal. Back in the late 1970's and early 1980's this wasn't the
case. I haven't even looked at a GP in the last 5 years. If Wes Montgomery
were on the cover, I'd pick it up immediately.
Jens
|
1535.62 | | LEDS::BURATI | MY BOYS CAN SWIM! | Tue Oct 13 1992 21:54 | 12 |
| Ditto. To this day I hvae avoided purchasing any issues of any of the
music rags with a poser on the cover. A magazine called "Guitar Player"
ought to at least have a real player on the cover. If not then some
hardware or something.
Danny, I've got a few Wes Montgomery LPs that I bought back in the 60s.
I think they're both CTI productions which I thought were a bit over
produced sounding (strings, etc.). I have a Brian Auger LP with a Wes
tune on it called (I think) "Boppin' Down Sunset". Do you know which if
any Wes album contained this tune?
--Ron
|
1535.63 | do they really care? | XCALBR::BUSENBARK | | Wed Oct 14 1992 07:13 | 18 |
| That's interesting Danny they called me several months ago wondering
why I had let my subscription elapse again since I had a subscription since
the beginning of the magazine. I just simply said I was not happy with the
magazine figuring they would just say ok and hang up on me,but instead this
guy wanted detail's. I spent 20 minutes with the guy talking about the in-
accuracies in reviews and how there advertising budget slanted towards the
reviews. How the new page layout and color setup was poor and distracting
and difficult to read. And how I wasn't interested in reading about pop metal/
headbangers and particularly the use of "rude" words in interviews.
The technical hardware information just seemed to be too
generalized,except for a couple of recent articles.
Finally I made mention of how instructional articles seem only to
appeal to a certain level of reader and there was not an awful lot of
what I would consider to be intermediate or advanced information with a
better level of detail. Of course I mentioned that they were stuck to
meeting the needs of the masses,because of the almighty $$$$.
Lastly I found that articles on Jazz players were few and far
between.
|
1535.64 | | MSDOA::BLAIR | It's 11 years and I'm shiftin' gears | Wed Oct 14 1992 13:13 | 6 |
|
Can someone please recommend some entry level albums of Wes Montgomery?
Are they on cd? Does the Eric Johnson version of 'East Wes' do Wes
justice?
-pat
|
1535.65 | Some Wes Pointers | RICKS::ROST | Baba Ram Bolinski | Wed Oct 14 1992 13:58 | 16 |
| His recordings for the (defunct) Riverside label show him in small
groups to good effect, Fantasy and OJC have resissued this stuff in a
number of packages over the years, so I'm not sure what actual titles
to look for. If you can find one called "Groove Brothers", that's a
good one, has him playing with his brothers Monk (bass) and Buddy
(vibes).
There are Wes compilations on the Verve Compact Jazz label called just
"Wes Montgomery" and "Wes Montgomery Plays The Blues" that are easy to
find and budget priced. Downside is that they feature a lot of string
and horn section backups which detract a bit.
There's also some Wes CDs on the A&M label but these have him in
watered down pop arrangements and should be avoided.
Brian
|
1535.66 | my Wes choices | RANGER::WEBER | | Wed Oct 14 1992 14:14 | 7 |
| Bags Meets Wes, Full House and Incredible Jazz Guitar are among his
best and are available on CD. Anything originally on Riverside is worth
owning, the Fantasy stuff is okay but low key & inconsistent, the Verve
and A&M stuff is pop dross with an occasional flash of brilliance. If
you want to try just one, get Full House.
Danny W.
|
1535.67 | | MSDOA::BLAIR | It's 11 years and I'm shiftin' gears | Wed Oct 14 1992 14:26 | 2 |
|
Thanks guys, I will try out Full House.
|
1535.68 | Lechmere etc... | XCALBR::BUSENBARK | | Wed Oct 14 1992 16:00 | 4 |
| Smokin at the Half Note,is one Wes M's easy to find CD's...
Rick
|
1535.69 | | LEDS::BURATI | MY BOYS CAN SWIM! | Wed Oct 14 1992 17:36 | 1 |
| Thanks
|
1535.70 | ..jazz guitar mood... | FLYWAY::CHAOT::WIEDLER | they could never be blue | Mon Oct 19 1992 06:20 | 11 |
| I am in a jazz guitar mood at the moment...
So I printed out Danny's note .0 (very helpful!) and went to the shops last
Saturday. I listened to a couple of CDs (in good Swiss record shops you can
pick a pile of CDs and listen to them on a player in the shop and then buy
what you like).
Finally I got a Joe Pass (one with lots of acoustic guitar) and an Emily
Remler album. Nice!
FeliX.
|
1535.71 | acoustic jazz guitar | FLYWAY::CHAOT::WIEDLER | they could never be blue | Wed Dec 23 1992 09:02 | 13 |
| The Joe Pass's CD mentioned in .-1 is "Summer Nights". As I said,
Joe plays an acoustic on most of the tracks, and I must say he gets an
incredibly nice sound out of his instrument!
I wonder what guitar this is... and there is probably a noter who knows
(guess who...) :-)
And I am in the mood for more - any recommendations for fine acoustic jazz
guitar CDs (I have got a couple of Django Reinhardt records)?
FeliX
P.S: Merry Xmas!
|
1535.72 | One I like...... | SMURF::BENNETT | Smile a little smile for me | Mon Dec 28 1992 13:29 | 8 |
|
I won't pretend to know great from crap, but one CD I've enjoyed
quite a bit over the last year is "Earl Klugh Trio, Volume One."
The instrumentation sounds to be nylon-stringed guitar, acoustic
bass and drums. There's some good schmaltz value here - a rendition
of the theme from "Bewitched", Henry Mancini's "Days of Wine and
Roses" and a Jobim number or two.
|
1535.73 | Jazz guitar CD collection grows... | ZUOPCS::CHAOT::WIEDLER | Swiss Euronaut | Tue Feb 09 1993 05:21 | 14 |
| I have spent a bit of money on jazz guitar CDs recently - this notes
conference proved unvaluable to find the right things like
- Wes Montgomery: Full House
- Emily Remler: East to Wes, Firefly
- Lee Ritenour: Stolen Moments
and other favourites.
Thanks for suggesting these!
FeliX.
P.S. By the way: does anybody know how Mr. Ritenour's name is pronounced ?
|
1535.74 | more.... | KALVIN::BUSENBARK | | Tue Feb 09 1993 07:08 | 3 |
| I had just picked up Mike Stern's "Standards" which is pretty good
if you listen to the notes and not the chorus or effects sound's
|
1535.75 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Tue Feb 16 1993 11:32 | 13 |
|
re - 1, I picked up Mike Sterns' "Standards" this weekend.
Yeow, they say he has "chops of doom" or something like
that and man, does he rip. If you're looking for extremely
fast jazz guitar (mostly him, upright bass, and drums), then
this one is it! He plays so fast that I wish he'd slow
down and play more of a melody.
I know I'd never be able to play any of this stuff - file
it under "unattainable, go listen to Johnny Winter". ;^)
Tom
|
1535.76 | help! on Pat Martino | DEMING::DCLARK | spare a bone, Chief? | Wed Feb 17 1993 08:51 | 6 |
| Does anyone know of any Record or Music stores in NH/MA which
have any Pat Martino CD's in stock? I've tried several times to
get a catalog from Fantasy, who owned Pat's Prestige label for
at least some of his stuff. Any pointers?
- Dave
|
1535.77 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Wed Feb 17 1993 09:08 | 8 |
|
Dave - if you get mail offline about Pat's CD's, please let
me know. I would kill for Joyous Lake, Exit... heck, just
about all of them.
My favorite guitarist, by far!
Tom
|
1535.78 | ex | DEMING::DCLARK | spare a bone, Chief? | Wed Feb 17 1993 10:56 | 3 |
| re .77
will do - Dave
|
1535.79 | New England.... | KALVIN::BUSENBARK | | Wed Feb 17 1993 12:06 | 7 |
| I have the fantasy catalog somewhere at home,I've bought most
of the Pat CD's from Tower Records in Boston and a couple from
Lechemere.
Rick
|
1535.80 | Burlington, too | TALOFA::HARMON | Paul Harmon, DECtp/East | Thu Feb 18 1993 07:12 | 4 |
| Last time I was at Tower Records in Burlington, MA they had a bunch of
Pat Martino CDs.
Paul
|
1535.81 | Rit goes Wes | ZUOPCS::CHAOT::WIEDLER | Swissophrenic | Thu Mar 11 1993 02:05 | 7 |
| I just saw that Lee Ritenour has got a brand new album out, I think it's
called "Wes Bound" - sounds like a tribute to Wes Montgomery. From what
I have seen, there are a couple of Wes standards ("4 on 6" among others).
Has anybody heard the album yet?
FeliX (who would like another Rit album in the "Stolen Moments" style)
|
1535.82 | Wes.... | KALI::BUSENBARK | | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:44 | 8 |
| I had heard that his new album is dedicated to Wes,plus I also
heard that Fantasy is putting out a Wes Montgomery box set containing
10 CD's of a variety of different studio takes..... Anyone seen this
in stores yet?
Rick
|
1535.83 | | SAHQ::ROSENKRANZ | Rock with Gene & Eddy | Thu Mar 11 1993 07:55 | 15 |
| I haven't seen the WM box set in stores yet, but it was discussed on
NPR radio where they interviewed Wes's producer from the the early
riverside (I think) label. He was the one that put together the box
set. Apparently Wes was quite a perfectionist and many times did
retakes of otherwise great stuff. The box set contains many of the
outtakes which the producer felt were better than the actually released
stuff.
He also told a story of how Wes was discovered. Apparently, Cannonball
Adderly saw Wes during while touring in Indianapolis. CA went straight
to NYC and told the producer he had seen a fantastic guitarist and to
get on a plane and go sign him up. Producer went to Indy, and saw
Wes and then followed him to after-hours gig and in the wee hours of
the morning, like 6AM, whipped out the standard contract and Wes was
signed.
|
1535.84 | Faux Wes & The Real Thing | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Apr 30 1993 16:38 | 18 |
| When I saw Lee Ritenour's new CD entitled "Wes Bound," I couldn't wait
to listen to it. Although I'm not a big fan of Lee, I am of Wes, and
even "tribute" albums attract my attention.
Unfortunately, Ritenour has chosen to emulate Wes at his worst; the pop
star era. Most of the tunes consist of Lee playing octave melodies over
lush, typical GRP studio backing. Lee is a good guitarist and has a
great sound on this CD, but he is no Wes Montgomery: where pop star Wes
brought genuine drive and jazz feel to otherwise undistinguished
arrangements, Lee's playing is dull and lifeless.
Don't get me wrong. This a very pretty, well-recorded album. If you
like pop music pretending to be jazz, this is an excellent example. I
might listen to it again while awaiting "The Complete Riverside
Recordings", the 12-disc boxed set of the real thing which I ordered
directly from Fantasy (don't send mail--it lists for $175)
Danny W.
|
1535.85 | | ROYALT::BUSENBARK | | Mon May 03 1993 14:18 | 3 |
| Thanks Danny.... another $15 saved....
Rick
|
1535.86 | Sampling the Recommended Recordings | POWDML::DAGG | | Thu Jun 24 1993 11:37 | 15 |
|
Thanks to the tremendous amount of information in this note,
I was able select a few nice jazz guitar recordings last weekend.
Current Favorite: "Straight Ahead", Barney Kessel with Ray Brown and
Shelley Mann. This swings really hard. Its a
reunion of the original poll winners from 1960, recorded in
1975. Is Barney mostly a pick player? Or does he use his
fingers also?
I also found copies of "The Return of Tal Farlow", and Pat Martino's
"East". These two I'm still getting into.
Dave
|
1535.87 | Emily Remler Video | POWDML::DAGG | | Thu Jul 15 1993 12:20 | 25 |
|
Recently I checked out the first of the two Emily
Remler instructional videos. I liked it. She talked
about how to develop your swing feel, using a metronome,
guide tones (3rds and 7ths through the blues), and there
is some nice playing. They didn't quite get the split
camera to cover both her hands at one point in it, but generally
the camera work is OK.
At first I thought her sound was rough, but now I think
she gets a great rhythmic, percussive sound.
This is from Hot Licks videos. Apparantly there is an Advanced
Improv and Latin tape by Remler, as well as tapes by Joe Pass,
Larry Coryell, and Joe Beck.
Regarding the recordings I mentioned in the previous reply:
Having listened more to the Pat Martino "East" disc, I have to
say that I find the piano playing throughout a real distraction,
plus the piano sounds out of tune. But the guitar playing is
excellent, so I might keep listening to it with one
channel turned down.
Dave
|
1535.88 | Bireli Lagrene does "Standards" | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Aug 02 1993 08:44 | 34 |
| Bireli Lagrene's first album, "Routes To Django" was a stunning homage
to a guitarist who seemingly had neither peers nor worthy disciples.
Lagrene's uncanny evocation of Reinhardt was made all the more
startling by the fact that he was only 13 years old when the session was
recorded. His follow-up album two years later was equally impressive.
Lagrene deciding to mine a different lode, soon switched to fuzak, and
after several disappointments, I stopped buying his records. A recent
release called "Acoustic Moments" caught my attention, but the moments
were all too few.
Earlier this summer I picked up a CD called "Standards," against my
better judgment; while the song titles looked good, the pointy-headed
guitar in the cover photo made me nervous. I put it aside while
spending several months listening to "The Complete Riverside Recordings
of Wes Montgomery" a few thousand times (more on this in the future.)
Anyway, while editing some of the thousands of slides we've taken this
summer, I dropped it in the player for background music. Although I
was, of course, enthralled by the beauty of our photography, I couldn't
help but notice that Lagrene's record is quite good. He really does
play standards, in a style that incorporates bop, Django-style swing
and more modern elements, with a sound that is slightly processed and
bright, but pleasant, and with the same monster chops that made his
first few albums so impressive. The European rhythm section is fine, as
is the mix of tunes. The overall sound reminds me one of Joe Beck's
early CD's, but Lagrene is a more interesting player.
I've only played it once, though, so I don't know if it will hold up to
repeat plays, but the first hearing was a very pleasant surprise. I
hope there's more where this came from.
Danny W.
|
1535.89 | Jazz Guitar in Cambridge | POWDML::DAGG | | Tue Aug 03 1993 11:49 | 13 |
|
Did anybody hear the show with Gray Sargent Friday night
at the Regatabar in Cambridge? I've been told this guy is
great, but I couldn't make it down to check it out.
On Thursday night, Aug. 5, Mick Goodrick will be playing at Ryles with
Wolfgang Mothspiel, Gary Chaffee on drums and Jerry Bergonzi on tenor.
August 18 John Abercrombie will be with Goodrick at the same
place.
Dave
|
1535.90 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Tue Aug 03 1993 11:57 | 10 |
|
Danny - there was a great review of Bireli's "Standards" in some
Jazz mag (with Metheny on the cover). They used words like
"astonishing" - really raved. They were also glad he didn't
use his distortion pedal. I have to get this one!
2nd impressions?
Tom
|
1535.91 | take 2 | RANGER::WEBER | | Tue Aug 03 1993 13:06 | 14 |
| re: "Standards"
"Astonishing" works for me. My 2nd impression is that it's really good,
with some of it being amazing and the rest merely excellent. Some of
the arrangements seem a little sloppy, like it was a pick-up session,
but everyone plays well and Bireli smokes. Unlike some of the other
"back to jazz" records (like Metheny's, which I like, BTW), Lagrene
plays chords as well as lines, so every once-in-awhile he plays a
really nice Django-ish chord solo. Neat
re: .89 I have several recordings by Gray Sargent on which he is
outstanding. Sounds like he's well worth seeing.
Danny W.
|
1535.92 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Tue Aug 10 1993 07:40 | 27 |
|
I just picked up a CD recorded in '92 by George VanEps and
Howard Alden - Hand-Crafted Swing. Lots of old standards
like "Stompin' at the Savoy", "Tenderly", "I've Got a Crush
on You", "All the things You Are" - 14 cuts in all.
These are tunes by Benny Goodman, Richard Rogers, Hoagy
Carmichael, George Gershwin, Oscar Hammerstein...
It's George on 7 string Gretsch and Howard with a Gibson
Howard Roberts accompanied by Dave Stone on upright bass
and Jake Hanna on drums.
This is a really nice CD with tons of back and forth playing.
Howard is much more single note and George is unreal with his
chordal/single note playing. After 2 listens, I actually enjoy
Howard's playing more but they're both terrific. Howard's tone
sounds better to my ears also. It doesn't take long to figure
out who's who.
This is obviously not way-out jazz. But it's constant guitar
playing and every solo is very tasty.
Great listening music in the car.
Tom
|
1535.93 | Bob Conte recordings? | POWDML::DAGG | | Mon Aug 16 1993 09:04 | 7 |
|
Recently I saw a video of "Rob Conti" (sp? maybe Bob Conte?) playing
with Jimmy McGriff at the Jacksonville jazz festival. Really
swingin. Any recommended recordings?
Dave
|
1535.94 | good question | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Aug 16 1993 15:26 | 4 |
| Conti is an oustanding guitarist who has not recorded much. There are
supposed to be one or two CD's, but I haven't found them yet.
Danny W.
|
1535.95 | | SAHQ::ROSENKRANZ | C'mon baby, drive south! | Thu Aug 19 1993 09:34 | 19 |
| I recently picked up a Django CD at Tower Records (I wanted a recording
of Mystery Pacific), only to return home and find a completely
different CD inside. Tower agreed to an exchange but was out of stock
on that particular CD, so I rummaged around and dug up the
Birelli Lagrene recording "Routes to Django" mentioned elsewhere in
this topic, and took it home instead. I was stunned. This level of
guitar by a 13 year old! It is some great music in the style of Django.
I'd certainly recommend this CD to Django fans.
While browsing, I also happened upon a CD by a fellow by the name of
John Jorgenson (sp?). He's not the tele-picking Jorgenson. The CD
caught my eye cause it had a selmer style maccaferri guitar on the
cover. It had one Django tune on it, and well as some stuff by
Fats Waller. I didn't pick this one up but was curious if anyone
out there has heard-of/heard this fellow???
thanks,
jim
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1535.96 | Any info? | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Mon Oct 11 1993 07:41 | 27 |
|
This review appeared in the Boston Herald this past weekend.
Does anyone have any info about this guy? Buck, do you
know of him?
Thaks - Tom
...
Garrison Fewell
A Blue Deeper Than the Blue - **** (out of 4)
Boston-based guitarist Garrison Fewell has cut a subtle jewel
of a debut album, one that instantly places him in the top
rank of straight-ahead jazz guitarists anywhere.
Fewell, a professor at Berklee, has a tone lyrical sensibility
that links him to Jim Hall and Pat Martino (with whom he
studied) without chaining him to them. And thanks to Fewell's
grat taste in sidemen - Boston-based drummer Matt Wilson,
bassist Cecil McBee and especially Bill Evans-steeped pianist
Fred Hersch - "A Blue Deeper Than the Blue" is a model not
only of individual virtuosity, but of group communication
and support as well.
Fewell plays Tuesday at the Regattabar.
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1535.97 | Garrison Fewell | TECRUS::ROST | Keef Riffhard | Mon Oct 11 1993 10:16 | 7 |
| Re: .96
I heard some of this CD on the radio this weekend. The track they
played was called (I think) "Update to the Blues" and was a nice blues
variation.
Brian
|
1535.98 | | TALOFA::HARMON | Paul Harmon, DECtp/East | Tue Oct 12 1993 08:24 | 5 |
| I heard Garrison live on one occasion. I enjoyed his playing, but it
surprizes me to hear that he studied with Pat Martino; based on the
night I heard him, I wouldn't say much of Pat's harmonic daring rubbed off.
Paul
|
1535.99 | and they have some nice 335's too :-) | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Will work for '59 Les Paul | Tue Oct 12 1993 08:59 | 3 |
| I happened to see the CD for sale at Cambridge Music's downtown store;
don't know if it's easily available in the record shops, but you can at
least pick it up there if you want.
|
1535.100 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | | Tue Oct 12 1993 09:19 | 18 |
|
re: .98 - hmmm, interesting. The comparison to Pat Martino
is exactly why I was asking about him. I've been re-listening
to Pat in my car for the last month or so - constantly. I picked
up "East" and "El Hombre" from '68 and also made a tape of "Joyous
Lake" and tracks from "Exit" and others from '76.
Maybe Bob Conroy can comment on his impressions of that tape...
Btw, Garrison was the "Wingo" celebrity in yesterday's Herald.
Weird to see the picture the same day I ask about him!
... Also, anyone know of anything new from Pat since the live
"Return"? Luckily, he did survive an aneurism, but it had
major impact.
Tom
|
1535.101 | Ok, Tom... | ICS::CONROY | | Thu Oct 21 1993 13:55 | 24 |
| Yes, Tom turned me on to Pat Martino. I had never heard his playing before.
I did like it immediately. I like the more traditional straight ahead jazz
tunes better than the stuff on "joyous Lake" (he uses wa-wa, distortion,
synthesizers etc.). The music (not the guitar playing) on Joyous Lake reminded
me a bit of Alan Holdsworth.
The straight jazz tunes are pretty amazing though. He plays long melodic
lines over complex changes, sounds like he can just extend these complicated
phrases out for days.
And the emotional intensity of his playing grabbed me right away. Boy, does
he swing! I like the slow tunes the best though. (don't know any titles, my
tape is unlabeled!) His perfect sense of melody and phrasing comes out. Just
beautiful playing.
This week I got the Steve Kahn book, "Pat Martino, The Early Years". It's
got transcriptions of his solos. Should be fun to read some of those great
lines. Hope I can learn something from it....
I also borrowed "The Return" from Tom, but I was a bit disappointed in that.
The technique was definitely there but it was lacking something to my ears.
Bob
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1535.102 | Lenny Breau recommendations? | BUFFER::BIRCSAK | What's all this, then? | Thu Oct 21 1993 14:02 | 9 |
| My guitar instructor recommended Lenny Breau as someone I might like to
listen to.
I've never heard of him; does anybody have any recommendations before I
go buy something blind? (I know, I should have asked him, but I didn't
think of it till later.)
thanks
-johnb
|
1535.103 | | SAHQ::ROSENKRANZ | Go ask Alice.... | Thu Oct 21 1993 14:22 | 22 |
| Lenny Breau was a Canadian guitarist, sorta "discovered" by
Chet Atkins. He sorta startled the country and Jazz genres. He
is well known for his use of harmonics. He unfortunately was
into booze and drugs bigtime and died I believe in the late 80s.
I think he might have been murdered but I don't recall the sordid
details.
I've got his "Last Sessions" CD, which is OK, but the one I'm
trying to get my hands on is the "Living Room sessions". I've
just heard a couple of cuts off it, but it had some acoustic stuff
that blew me away. If anyone knows how to get a hold of it, please
drop me a line.
I've also been informed that Gene Lees wrote a chapter on Breau in
his book "Waiting for Dizzy". I've not read it yet, but it might be
interesting. I also think there was a Chet Atkins interview in
Acoustic guitar where he talks about Lenny. Also I believe Danny
Gatton got much of his Harmonic influences from Lenny. Note the
tune "Lenny" on New York Stories (Blue Note).
jim
|
1535.104 | "Living Room" from JHS/MHS | TECRUS::ROST | Metal Guru | Thu Oct 21 1993 14:42 | 11 |
| "Living Room Sessions" can be bought through the Jazz Hertitage Society
or the Musical Heritage Society. I believe there are two volumes.
Duets with Lenny and a clarinetist.
Not sure how much other stuff is in print. He recorded some albums for
Adelphi who are now out of business.
He was found drowned but there was no suicide note, so foul play was
suspected but never confirmed.
Brian
|
1535.105 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | anti-EMM! anti-EMM! I hate expanded memory!- Dorothy | Thu Oct 21 1993 15:04 | 9 |
| Lenny and Denny Breau are from Lewiston Maine. Born and bred according to
Denny.
I remember the suspected foul play when Lenny died but there were no leads
as I understand it.
If lenney was better than Denny then he was one hell of a guitarist.
dbii
|
1535.106 | Larry Coryell in Westboro MA | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Press RETURN For More on | Wed Dec 01 1993 06:59 | 8 |
| Just heard on WICN in Worcester that Larry Coryell is playing at the
Vienne Coffee Haus in Westboro this Sunday - December 5th. No other
details were given. Might want to call WICN for more info.
Seems rare that someone like Larry Coryell would gig out in the 'burbs!
/Paul
|
1535.107 | | SLOHAN::FIELDS | Strange Brew | Wed Dec 01 1993 10:47 | 6 |
| or call the OVK (Old Vienna Kaffeehaus) 508-898-2230 or 2231
OVK is a nice place to see an artist and from what Im told artist love
to play there too ! total sitting is @100 if that !
Chris
|
1535.108 | Wes' Complete Riverside Boxed Set | RANGER::WEBER | | Tue Dec 08 1992 08:36 | 31 |
| When I first heard of "The Complete Riverside Recordings" boxed Wes
Montgomery set, my first reaction was that I already owned them and
didn't need to spend so much just to get a fancy box for them. I
changed my mind when I found that it contained alternate takes of many
of my favorite Wes tracks.
These discs dominated my listening for months after I received them.
"Bags Meets Wes" and "Full House" have been on my top 10 list for 30
years and having different versions of many of the tracks has been like
discovering that Wes was still alive and just hiding out for all these
years. The difference between the solos he plays on many of the takes
is startling, and a great revelation as to the true depth of his
artistry. I actually prefer some of the alternates to the released
tracks, perhaps because I haven't memorized them yet. The set also
shows that even in his Riverside days, he turned out some recordings
that were just pleasant background music--I would have preferred more
alternate takes over the inclusion of the "Fusion" sessions.
If you want to own the essential Wes Montgomery, it is not necessary to
buy this set. The two records mentioned, along with "The Incredible
Jazz Guitar," and "The Wes Montgomery Trio" are a good start, although
all the original Riverside recordings have some good stuff. Add
"Smokin' At The Half Note" on Verve and you've got him covered for much
less than this set will set you back.
But, if you want to really get into the playing of one of the true
masters of jazz guitar, the boxed set is worth every penny.
Danny W.
|
1535.109 | Wes recording of Secret Love | POWDML::DAGG | | Mon Feb 21 1994 07:47 | 15 |
|
I've also been greatly enjoying the Complete Riverside collection of
Wes Montgomery recordings. It's a real challange, since it contains
so much. I like it especially because I'm a fan of the group with
Mel Rhyne on organ, of which there are many tracks.
However, I seem to remember listening to a version of "Secret Love"
done by Wes in an organ trio. I had thought this was on the
Guitar on the Go album. But its not in the complete collection. In
the notes boxed set, Orrin Keepnews says he left some originally
issued stuff off the collection from the Guitar on the Go session.
Anyone know for sure if Wes recorded "Secret Love"?
Dave
|
1535.110 | Never hoid of it | RANGER::WEBER | | Wed Feb 23 1994 11:44 | 14 |
| The songs on "Guitar On the Go":
The Way You Look Tonight
Dreamsville
Geno
Missile Blues
For AllWe Know
Fried Pies
Adrian Ingram's book on Wes has a complete discography and "Secret
Love" isn't mentioned. I certainly don't remember ever hearing it by
Wes.
Danny W.
|
1535.111 | >:*} | NAVY5::SDANDREA | God bless Tony Tiger.... | Wed Feb 23 1994 12:02 | 10 |
| Wes recorded "Secret Love" in 1957 with the James Killiam trio. This
little know recording session occurred in a small studio in New York
when Wes happened to be in town doing a live appearence at "The
Downtown" club. Wes used a rare Gibson ES175 for the session. the
guitar had been custom built for him by request, and was only used in
that one session. His daughter Elizabeth now owns the guitar....
Steve (doing my best Rost/Weber impersonation; just made it all up)
|
1535.112 | Maybe it was a dream... | POWDML::DAGG | | Wed Feb 23 1994 12:49 | 11 |
| But seriously folks! I do appreciate your
sharing the data. I kinda figured D.W. could settle this one.
Now it looks like I'll have find the book mentioned
in the previous reply, so that I too can become
a consumate Wes-head.
thanks again!
Dave - who sometimes remembers things that happened before he
was born
|
1535.113 | re: .111 | RANGER::WEBER | | Wed Feb 23 1994 13:11 | 8 |
| The best part about this session was that Wes replaced the input12AX7 in his
amp with a 12AT7, and that the voltage drop through the Woolworth's
extension cord left only 90 Vac at the amp, further softening Wes's
famous "thumb" sound.
The fact that he bought the strings in 1948 might have helped, too :-)
Danny W.
|
1535.114 | No Secret Love pt II | RANGER::WEBER | | Thu Feb 24 1994 09:08 | 16 |
| "Secret Love" seems like it would make a great jazz standard, but the
only recording I can think of is on Joe Beck's "Relaxin'," on which I
think it is the highlight of the record.
I thought perhaps Herbie or Tal might have recorded it, but a quick
look turned up nothing. My database, which is all in my head, doesn't
do searches as well as it used to--perhaps the desktop needs
rebuilding. This is why I don't try to compete against Brian Rost in
the "Name that tune/band/player/obscure label/bass player's third
cousin/lead singers favorite beer " sweepstakes.
Now, if someone had asked about "All The Things You Are" or I'll
Remember April," I could find a dozen of each. I'm sure I've got other
versions of Secret Love--I'll just have to wade through the recordings.
Danny W.
|
1535.115 | I'll check out "Relaxin" | POWDML::DAGG | | Thu Feb 24 1994 10:49 | 18 |
|
I guess I wouldn't have been surprised if Wes _had_ recorded
it (Secret Lunch, er rather Love), because it seemed like a
commonly called tune in Indianapolis, where Wes and family
started out as I understand it. Of course he was
there many years before I ever heard the thing called.
I would be curious about any other recordings, thanks.
Dave
|
1535.116 | McGlaughlin's Organ Trio | POWDML::DAGG | | Mon Apr 11 1994 08:59 | 22 |
| Saw John Mcglaughlin's trio at the Charles Hotel Ballroom last
night. He's got Joey Defrancesco on organ and trumpet, and
Dennis Chambers on drums. Generally I'd have to say I wasn't
completely thrilled, as I have been the previous three times
I've seen him. Maybe it was the room, maybe he was sick,
maybe the drummer isn't my favorite, whatever. The most
positive thing I'd say is that I'll be curious to hear more
of the organ player, since I think he had the best night.
Also made me think about how great George Benson was on those
old Stanley Turrentine recordings, and how much I liked
Shakti.
Anyways, did anyone else go? Any other impressions? Anyone
identify the guitar? It was a soft cut (non-florentine), sunburst,
single-gold humbucker pickup Gibson archtop with I think a bigsby,
and the back of the neck had two lines in it, like it was made
from three pieces? The controls were mounted on the pickguard, the
headstock looked large and had fancy inlay. The cord
plugged into the strap screw at the end.
Dave
|
1535.117 | Joe Pass | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | Mine's made outta unobtainium! | Tue May 24 1994 10:55 | 11 |
|
Unfortunately, Joe Pass died Monday of liver cancer. I have
about a dozen of his albums and especially like his recordings
with Oscar Peterson and Nils Henning Orsted Pedersen.
Saw him twice and don't think I recognized one chord!!
Guess the years of heavy drinking got to him. I believe he was
also addicted to heroin at one time. He was 65.
|
1535.118 | | MANTHN::EDD | Just got The Goodbye Look | Tue May 24 1994 13:25 | 7 |
| >...and don't think I recognized one chord!!
I'll bet you woulda caught right on if he used 3 tho...
:^)
Edd
|
1535.119 | A sad day | RANGER::WEBER | | Wed May 25 1994 10:00 | 21 |
| I remember when "Sounds Of Synanon" was released and Joe Pass becaome
an overnight jazz sensation, because of both his playing and the
circumstances of the recording. "Catch Me" secured his place in the
roster of jazz guitar giants.
After playing in a variety of settings, he devoted a period of his
career to playing solo. He did it extraordinarily well, but I find this
type of playing boring and I lost interest in him. Awhile ago he
started recording again with small groups, and recently turned out
several of what I feel are his best records. "My Song", "Finally" with
Red Mitchell, and "Appasionato" are each outstanding. The last has a
substantial amount of acoustic playing, too, and this provides a nice
contrast to Joe's electric playing.
These recordings really renewed my enthusiasm for Joe and I had been
looking forward to a steady stream of similar releases. Once again a
vital force in jazz guitar is stilled and the world is a sadder place
for it.
Danny W.
|
1535.120 | Bustin' my chops | POWDML::DAGG | | Fri Jun 03 1994 09:06 | 16 |
|
Do any of you ever feel like jazz guitar gets no
respect?
A saxophonist friend of mine called me up last night, and
when I told him I had been practicing guitar he said
"Man, if you're going to spend so much time on it,
why don't you play an instrument that it would eventually
be possible to _swing_ on?"
Cutting, very cutting... =B-)
Dave
|
1535.121 | Don't get no respect? | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Light to dark, dark to light | Fri Jun 03 1994 09:11 | 1 |
| I have no end of respect for Larry Carlton.
|
1535.122 | Texas Swings ... Herb Swings | BIGQ::DCLARK | Collective Soul | Fri Jun 03 1994 10:14 | 3 |
| I got Herb Ellis' new CD "Texas Swings" at Newbury Comics the other
day. There's a guy who can swing on a guitar, even on such unlikely
tunes as "The Old Rugged Cross" and "America the Beautiful".
|
1535.123 | Guitar is special | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Jun 03 1994 10:48 | 33 |
| The guitar has never been a cutting edge jazz instrument--all the
breakthroughs in jazz styles have been led by horn players. In fact,
the most significant guitar player* in the history of jazz made his
contribution by learning to play lines like a horn player would. The
guitar has often been segregated from mainstream jazz--there are many
leaders who prefer not o work with one because they feel it is
stylistically incompatible with their music. This includes most of the
"hard bop" style--try to imagine the Jazz Messengers with one. So jazz
guitar has mostly existed in its own niche (perhaps ghetto is more
correct,) though some players, like Burrell, Kessel, Ellis, Farlow and
Rainey, have been successful in so many settings that they prove that
it is not the jazz guitar itself, but the small community of great
players that might the root of the problem.
I have worked with some musicians who felt that the presence of a
rhythm guitar player in a jazz group was detrimental to swing, citing
the often plodding rhythm sections of many of the (perhaps misnamed)
"swing" bands, or of the Quintet of The Hot Club. The first example is
easy to counter-- the Basie rhythm section swung like crazy, because
of, not despite, Freddie Green. The second example is artificial--three
rhythm guitarists are a little much, and these guys came from a
background where swing wasn't as important as emotion.
As for the idea that the guitar can't swing, there are so many examples
to disprove this that I suspect the motives of anyone who makes this
claim. For a start, consider that even with The Quintet Of The Hot
Club's leaden rhythm section, Django's playing is swinging as can be.
Then listen to Christian's "Solo Flight", any of Kessel's "Poll Winner"
albums and follow that up with Wes' "Full House." After that, anything
by any of the other players mentioned previously, plus Jim Hall, Joe
Pass, Howard Alden, Cal Collins...
Danny W. * I shouldn't have to tell you who this guitarist is
|
1535.124 | Les Paul, right...8*) | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Indecision; the key to flexibility | Fri Jun 03 1994 12:22 | 7 |
| * I shouldn't have to tell you who this guitarist is
You're right, you shouldn't.........
so who is it?
|
1535.125 | :-) | BIGQ::DCLARK | Collective Soul | Fri Jun 03 1994 12:23 | 3 |
| re .-1
uh, Mick Mars?
|
1535.126 | %^) | TRLIAN::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish. | Fri Jun 03 1994 12:46 | 5 |
| re: .124
For you, Bulldawg, Eric Clapton.
Dave
|
1535.127 | 8*) | NAVY5::SDANDREA | Indecision; the key to flexibility | Fri Jun 03 1994 12:55 | 7 |
| re: -1
Thank you, Dave, I love EC's jazz stylings!
.........you didn't know either, didya?
dawg
|
1535.128 | Ayuh. | TRLIAN::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish. | Fri Jun 03 1994 13:24 | 7 |
| re: -1
No, actually, I don't know. My guess would be Charlie Christian.
But jazz bassists? Now lessee... Peter Tork?
D-D-D-Dave
|
1535.129 | Chris Flory | POWDML::DAGG | | Mon Jun 06 1994 08:33 | 9 |
|
For those who enjoy older swing style guitar playing,
the "City Life" disc by Chris Flory, I believe
previously of Providence R.I. is worth checking out.
It also features some nice straight ahead piano
playing by John Bunch.
Dave
|
1535.130 | Notes meets Wes! | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Mon Jun 06 1994 21:14 | 10 |
| Come on guys, even I know that Danny can only be referring to
Wes Montgomery. Who else fits that bill? I remember reading
somewhere that Wes studied horn charts.
Regarding your reference to the Quintet, I've always heard
them referred to as "The Hot House 5".
Mark
|
1535.131 | Charlie! | RANGER::WEBER | | Tue Jun 07 1994 07:56 | 15 |
| Sorry Mark, you failed the midterm. Your punishment is to write
descriptions of all the pawnshop prizes you snag at the guitar show!
Charlie Christian is the man who learned how to play horn lines on a
guitar, and is the wellspring from which all other jazz guitarists (all
electric guitarists, for that matter) flow. Wes Montgomery's first
forays into jazz found him learning all of Christian's solos.
The Quintet Of The Hot Club and The Hot House Five are two different
organizations, rather far apart in both time and repertoire. I doubt
that Louis would have allowed a guitarist into the latter group, though
banjo players might apply.
Danny W.
|
1535.132 | | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | Mine's made outta unobtainium! | Tue Jun 07 1994 08:05 | 9 |
|
Hmmm... I would have guessed Wes too, Mark! I even thought it
was obvious from Danny's notes. He is your favorite, Danny, yes?
On a different note, has anyone heard / seen Pat Martino's
video? Or anything about a new cd??
Tom
|
1535.133 | Pat.... | KALVIN::BUSENBARK | | Tue Jun 07 1994 08:29 | 15 |
| re.. On a different note, has anyone heard / seen Pat Martino's video?
A month or so ago I picked up Pat Martino's first instructional
video and have only had a chance to look at it once. The video has some
live footage of Pat playing. I'll probably pickup the second in the series
when I have the time. I believe I saw that an Audio version is available
also at a much lower price.
I plan on looking down in the Philadelphia for a new or any release
from Pat this summer if I get a chance.
Rick
Rick
|
1535.134 | Alden's axe | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Jun 17 1994 07:39 | 8 |
| I was looking through some of my old issues of Frets magazine and came
across an 1981 article on rising star Howard Alden. What was
interesting is that his instrument at the time was 4-string banjo!
This explains the swing feel that permeates his style, and shows why he
collaborates so well with George Van Eps, another ex-banjo player.
Danny W.
|
1535.135 | NY Swing | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Sep 12 1994 13:05 | 12 |
| In Lechmere a few weeks ago I came across two CDs by "New York Swing",
with pianist Ralph Bunch, and guitar player Bucky Pizzarelli. One of
the packages was a 2-CD set for $9.99, the other a single for 7.99.
With a sale, the total was $14. For this price, the records didn't have
to be great, but it turns out that they are. Bucky's playing is
excellent throughout, and the rest of the group is fine, too. The tunes
are a good selection of standards and there's an hour of music on each
disc.
This gets my "musical bargain of the year" award.
Danny W.
|
1535.136 | Bucky | CUPMK::WIEGLER | | Tue Sep 13 1994 09:10 | 6 |
| I have heard Bucky Pizzarelli on WGBH, public radio in Boston. He has
been in the studio talking to the DJ, if I recall. I suppose that
means he is either from Boston or he gigs in Boston on occasion.
Willy
|
1535.137 | old folks boogie | RICKS::CALCAGNI | gray folded | Tue Sep 13 1994 09:45 | 3 |
| Bucky was just in town, backing up Stephane Grapelli. Speaking of
Stephane, I hope I'm still gigging when I'm 86!
|
1535.138 | | STAR::BENSON | Musical Weapons Research | Tue Sep 13 1994 12:00 | 16 |
| I saw Bucky and Stephane Saturday night at Jordan Hall in Boston. I had
never heard Bucky before (well, I probably did and didn't know it), tho
I did remember reading that he played a seven string. I saw the seven
string on before they came out and thought, "well, either he's playing
with Bucky Pizzarelli or Steve Vai." Anyway, Bucky was excellent and
his chordal solos got great audience response. A couple of guys in the
row behind me were worshipping him, genuflecting in that "we're not
worthy" manner...
Stephane was excellent, as always. He does sit down for the show now,
and needs a little help getting up and down, but it hasn't effected his
playing. I really lucked out and got second row center seats - so I was
about 10 feet away from him - even though I ordered the tickets the
day before! I was just about hypnotized for the entire show...
Tom
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1535.139 | there are 2 Bucks... | USPMLO::DESROCHERS | Mine's made outta unobtainium! | Tue Sep 13 1994 15:08 | 10 |
|
Make sure you're not confusing Bucky with Bucky Jr.
Bucky Jr looks about 30ish or so to me and also plays a
7 string. I believe he's trying to be the Harry Connick
of guitar. Saw him one morning on the Today show and he
is a hell of a player too.
Tom
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1535.140 | does the deer have dough? | RICKS::CALCAGNI | There's no money to be made above the 5th fret | Tue Sep 13 1994 15:17 | 5 |
| Actually, I think his son's name is John. Or maybe that's his middle
name and he uses it to avoid confusion? You're right about the
"Harry Connick of the guitar" business.
/rick
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1535.141 | | BIGQ::DCLARK | doin' that crazy hand jive! | Wed Sep 14 1994 08:20 | 3 |
| I have John Pizzarelli's latest CD (I think it's called Splendid
Splinter; that's the cut I remember off it). It's very good straight-
ahead jazz. I think John needs to develop his vocals more (IMO).
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1535.142 | Garrison Fewell @ CTM | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Twelve Sandwich Blues | Mon Sep 26 1994 18:29 | 17 |
| Don't know how many of you read Jazz notes, but check out the note
on Stow's own, Coffee, Tea and Melody. I try to update it as I get
time, but just let you know in advance guitar virtuoso Garrison
Fewell comes to CTM Saturday nite November 5th. I heard an interview
a week ago on the WFNX Sunday Jazz Brunch with Jeff Turton and
Garrison mentioned this gig. They were playing tunes from his latest
CD on Accurate (the Cambridge label that Either/Orchestra's Russ
Gershon owns/runs), entitled something " Blue " ? It was a quartet
(gtr/piano/bass/drums), and man, was Mr Fewell burnin'
Actually, I *think* he said the CTM date was going to be a trio -
even better !
If you haven't been, check out CTM - a great place to hear someone!
/Paul
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1535.143 | | TALOFA::HARMON | Paul Harmon, ACMSxp Engineering | Tue Sep 27 1994 07:49 | 7 |
| > Gershon owns/runs), entitled something " Blue " ? It was a quartet
It's something like "A Blues Deeper than the Blue", I think. I've
heard Garrison a couple of times around town...well worth checking
out, IMO.
Paul
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1535.144 | see JAZZ note 633 | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Twelve Sandwich Blues | Wed Sep 28 1994 19:05 | 6 |
| See JAZZ note #633 regarding the latest schedule for Coffee Tea &
Melody's schedule. This place is a treasure to have right here
in Stow
/Paul
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1535.145 | Martin Taylor | IRNBRU::HAMILTON | | Thu Nov 17 1994 09:25 | 17 |
|
Haven't seen Martin Taylor mentioned in this notesfile. Is he well
known in the US or restricted to a British/European audience ??
He has played a lot with Stephane Grapelli, and at the moment is
playing solo, plus also touring with his own quartet.
I have seen him recently both solo and with his quartet. Last year I
saw him playing with Joe Pass...........
Anyone else heard him play ?
David H.
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1535.146 | Taylor | RANGER::WEBER | | Thu Nov 17 1994 13:26 | 7 |
| Taylor is not exactly a household name in the US, but he is known for
his work with Grapelli, and articles on him (and by him) have appeared
in some US publications. He's a good player, but I've yet to hear
anything from him that makes me think he's in the same league as Howard
Alden, Ron Eschete or Bruce Foreman.
Danny W.
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1535.147 | Garrison - back in Nov @CTM | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Twelve Sandwich Blues | Tue Jan 17 1995 18:16 | 18 |
| Hi, I know this note is a LITTLE late, but I meant to say that I
heard Garrison Fewell's Trio at Coffee, Tea & Melody back in November
and it was astonishing! I have a tape copy of his latest CD and
this performance (in my opinion) far exceeded the CD! Matt Wilson
was on drums and totally blew my mind. He came in with bass drum,
snare and tom, hi-hat, ride, crash and a few little percussion
instruments and blew the place away - can you say imagination!
Garrison's playing was awesome. Right on and always thinking.
Some inventive stuff. Harvie Swartz was on upright bass - and what
can I say ... he was amazing.
I just wish Fewell's CD had the open adventurism that this trio
had. A much nicer, more organic flowing feel than the album and
less of a lounge vibe. Wish I had a secret DAT player going in
the audience!!
/Paul
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1535.148 | pure genius | RICKS::CALCAGNI | The animal trainer and the toad | Wed Jan 18 1995 08:11 | 6 |
| ditto what Paul said. And although it was Garrison's gig,
Matt Wilson's drums are what really made that night; you
could tell the whole audience thought so too. See these
guys, especially if Matt's with em.
/ricki
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1535.149 | give me back my conference! ;-) | EVTAI1::SECU_LDV | Mr Strato | Fri Mar 03 1995 08:17 | 9 |
|
Hi,
No luck when I did a dir/title=jazz and dir/key=jazz so I post:
Where is located the JAZZ conference ? It was in my notebook
before I delete it !! ;-)
-Fred-
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1535.150 | | TAMRC::LAURENT | Hal Laurent @ COP | Fri Mar 03 1995 08:37 | 9 |
| re: .149
> Where is located the JAZZ conference ? It was in my notebook
> before I delete it !! ;-)
It's at EICMFG::JAZZ. Press SELECT or KP7 or whatever to add it to your
notebook.
-Hal
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1535.151 | Thanks! :-) | EVTAI1::SECU_LDV | Mr Strato | Fri Mar 03 1995 08:44 | 1 |
|
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1535.152 | Tal Farlow needs a gig | RANGER::WEBER | | Fri Jul 14 1995 14:50 | 12 |
| The current issue of downbeat has a truly depressing article about Tal
Farlow. This giant of jazz guitar, certainly in the top 10 guitarists of
all time and one of the most influential, recently lost his gig at a
seaside restaurant playing cocktail music and doesn't have a steady gig
nor a recording contract.
Although he has never wanted to be in the limelight, I find it amazing
that one of the jazz guitar labels (Concord, perhaps) can't figure out
a way to make him some kind of a deal that would allow the rest of us
to listen to his music.
Danny W.
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1535.153 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Trouble with a capital 'T' | Fri Jul 14 1995 15:59 | 4 |
|
Did he lose the gig due to failing ability [doubtful] or the
closing of the restaurant ... or something else?
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1535.154 | Tal | RANGER::WEBER | | Mon Jul 17 1995 10:29 | 4 |
| The place closed. He plays as well as ever, according to the article (a
friend of mine who knows Tal confirms this)
Danny W.
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1535.155 | concert alert | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Smokin' Walter, the Fire Engine Guy | Fri Nov 08 1996 07:35 | 3 |
1535.156 | sounds interesting | ASABET::DCLARK | SBU Technology Group | Fri Nov 08 1996 08:23 | 5 |
1535.157 | a little bit of heaven on earth... | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Smokin' Walter, the Fire Engine Guy | Fri Nov 08 1996 08:37 | 4 |
1535.158 | | ASABET::bflat4.ogo.dec.com::pelkey | | Fri Nov 08 1996 09:08 | 2 |
1535.159 | Garrison smokes CTM | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Smokin' Walter, the Fire Engine Guy | Mon Nov 11 1996 09:16 | 23 |
1535.160 | yup | ASABET::DCLARK | SBU Technology Group | Mon Nov 11 1996 11:05 | 3 |
1535.161 | Wayne Boyd | GAVEL::DAGG | | Mon Dec 23 1996 07:03 | 20 |
1535.162 | Joshua Breakstone | GAVEL::DAGG | | Tue Mar 04 1997 06:23 | 11 |
|
Another recent favorite of mine that may not
already be listed in here is Joshua Breakstone's
Tribute to Grant Green CD. Big sound, bebop
lines, guitar/organ/drums line up. Plus two
tracks with Kenny Barron on piano instead of
the organ. I'll be looking into more of this
guy's recordings.
Dave
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1535.163 | great jazz guitar in Acton this Friday | RICKS::CALCAGNI | ice cold water runnin through my veins | Tue Apr 29 1997 15:08 | 7 |
| Garrison Fewell and Lazlo Gardony, this Friday night at the Acton Jazz
Cafe. Haven't checked out the AJC yet but they seem to have a nice
little jazz thing growing. Garrison and Lazlo are no doubt promoting
their new live duet release. By all means, go.
/rick
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1535.164 | Jazz Winds fron a New Direction | ASABET::DCLARK | Howl! | Thu May 08 1997 08:57 | 15 |
| I just got Hank Garland's "Jazz Winds from a New Direction" on
CD the other day. This is certainly a hard one to find! I know
most of you jazz afficionados probably have this one already, but
I'd never heard it. This is definately a 'must have'. I've played
'All the things you are' quite a few times, and can kind of
struggle through the changes. Hank (and a 17-year old Gary
Burton) just soar, on this and all the other tunes. Enough
material here to keep me busy for a couple years.
Hank was a country session guy who fooled around with jazz on
the side. This was his first attempt at a serious jazz recording.
He could have been one of the greats but he was in a serious
car accident less than 2 years after this recording was made.
He never fully regained his abilities, and left the music
business.
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1535.165 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | ice cold water runnin through my veins | Thu May 08 1997 09:02 | 3 |
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Hank is the "land" part of
the name given to the Gibson "Byrdland" model.
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1535.166 | | PIET09::DESROCHERS | psdv.mro.dec.com/tomd/home.html | Thu May 08 1997 09:34 | 6 |
|
I've only heard him in a sampler and it was many, many years ago but
I remember loving his style. Clean, fast and very melodic.
I know I'd be into it it just as much as you, Dave! Great find!
Tom
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1535.167 | "....you too, Billy Byrd..." | FABSIX::E_PHILLIPS | Music of the spheres. | Thu May 08 1997 09:35 | 6 |
| Re. .165
Correct! Garland was the "land" part; the "Byrd" was, of course, Billy
Byrd, who was lead guitarist for Ernest Tubb's Texas Troubadours.
Eric (aka Joe Bob) ;^)
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1535.168 | Ernest Ranglin | GAVEL::DAGG | | Mon Jun 02 1997 07:25 | 11 |
|
Ernest Ranglin is a Jamaican jazz guitarist with
a CD called Below the Bassline (available through BMG)
One of the few times I've heard a jazz/ska fusion!
Its all instrumentals, with some great grooves and
very distinctive guitar solos.
Can anyone recommend any other recordings by him?
Dave
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