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1456.1 | No Truss Rod | AQUA::ROST | Speak to dogs in French | Tue Sep 05 1989 16:27 | 8 |
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One thing you lose with a graphite neck is a truss rod, and the ability
to adjust neck relief. Basically, what you see is what you get
forever. Depending on your playing style and string gauges, you may
not like the kind of action you can get. On basses I've tried with
graphite necks, there are no dead spots like on a wooden neck.
Brian
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1456.2 | Superior strength, light weight, and resistant to environment | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Desperate but not serious | Tue Sep 05 1989 21:46 | 25 |
| The appeal of the graphite neck is that it's supposed to provide
greater consistency as it doesn't change with temperature and humidity
like a wooden neck does. It's a much stiffer material, not so subject
to environmental issues and can also be produced thinner without loss
of structural integrity while still maintaining fairly light weight.
If I remember right, it's also more dense which should increase sustain
somewhat.
I didn't realize that there was no truss rod in one. However, if the
relief is correctly set to begin with and the neck doesn't flex with
different gauge strings, there would be no need for it. The purpose of
the truss rod is to allow the bend in the neck produced by the string
tension to be compensated for, if the neck is suitably stiff that the
string tension does not bend it, then the truss rod is not necessary.
I've never played with one myself. The price of a Modulus(sp?) guitar
is way out of my range, so I never tormented myself (on the chance that
I'd fall in love with it). I did play a Washburn electric once that
had a graphite fretboard (or so I was told). I hated it! Felt like
cheap plastic.
BTW, where's the ad in the GP issue (I presume you mean the issue with
Pete Townsend on the cover)?
Greg
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1456.3 | Who cares how it works - as long as it looks cool! | ROLL::BEFUMO | Overcome by yielding | Wed Sep 06 1989 09:05 | 11 |
| Thanks for the info. I kind of suspect that the lack of truss rod is
probably not a real big issue of the neck is suitably stiff to begin
with. My Hagstrom Swede doesn't have a neck adjustment (just a flat
bar running down a hollow neck), and I've gone from extra lights, to
lights, to mediums for slide & the neck never budged. The ad was in
the August issue of GP (the one with the guy who holds his guitar funny
on it), toward the back. Having worked withe graphite fiber at various
times, I do have confidence in its strength and stiffness, I'm mainly
wondering about it's feel (I love the feel of the maple neck I have
now, but one of those black necks would really look cool on my
black-on-black strat 8^)
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1456.4 | The ultimate blackout guitar | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Desperate but not serious | Wed Sep 06 1989 13:06 | 14 |
| I'd wonder what kind of a fretboard and the shape of the neck. That
determines the feel for me. I can deal with finished, unfinished,
whatever on the back of the neck, but I don't like finished fretboards.
I also don't like baseball bat thickness necks (Teles drive me nuts).
I tend to like ebony and rosewood fretboards, but not so much maple
ones (probably because they usually have a sticky gloss finish on them.
Like I said before, that Washburn felt like a piece of plastic. I
couldn't live with it.
I always thought that the Modulus guitars looked cool though. I'd
definately want to play something new like that before I bought it!
Greg
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1456.5 | Guess they're not all the same | ROLL::BEFUMO | Overcome by yielding | Wed Sep 06 1989 14:09 | 15 |
| re [.-1] : From the picture, which means nothing, of course, it looked
like it was graphite through and through. Personally, Ebony is my
favorite, followed by maple and then rosewood, but, I, too, can't stand
a thick neck. Funny you should mention teles, though. I used to have
a white early '60s strat with a late '50s tele neck on it. The neck was
nice and slender, and over the years I always assumed that all teles
were like that, and that all strats were like rowboat oars, 'cause
that's what all the other strats I played on felt like. A couple of
weeks ago I picked up a Fernandes Strat, with the intention of trying
to track down a tele neck for it, but found that the Fernandes neck
felt perfect. Since it's supposed to be a fairly accurate copy of an
older strat, and considering your remarks about tele necks, , I
assume that not all teles have necks as thin as mine was, and not
all strats are as clubby as the ones I've had the misfortune to play.
joe
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1456.6 | | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Desperate but not serious | Wed Sep 06 1989 15:15 | 19 |
| Hmmm...
That's very interesting. I always heard that Fender had a lot of
difference in the necks for the same model. This certainly
demonstrates it.
All the Teles I've played recently had necks as thick as a whole tree,
but I remember playing a Tele several years ago that I loved at the
time. I thought that it must have just been before I developed my
taste for neck preference (it was when I first started playing) and/or
I didn't remember it right.
I have a Strat that has a nice slender neck that feels real good to me,
but I did play a Strat with a "club neck" once. Yuck-o!
I guess that's why people talk about having to have the necks on their
Fenders shaved down to make them playable, huh?
Greg
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1456.7 | Big necks for BIG hands, I s'pose | ROLL::BEFUMO | Overcome by yielding | Wed Sep 06 1989 17:08 | 3 |
| I did notice that Warmoth offers their necks in a thicker profile.
so I suppose there ARE some misguided souls out there who actually LIKE
thick necks ;-) Andre-the-giant-guitar-player, perhaps.
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1456.8 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Fri Sep 08 1989 12:20 | 2 |
| I'd like to find an electric guitar with a 2 1/8 wide neck like my
Ramirez. Medium baseball thickness.
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