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1408.1 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | The sea refuses no river... | Tue Aug 01 1989 14:48 | 14 |
| Bolt on to pickups??? you can replace the pickups, there are lots of pickups
you can choose from but the only reason I can see to replace them is the hotten
up the sound and/or get the hum and noise under control. So check out stacked
single coil pickups they don't hum at all (as they are actually a humbucker,
where the two coils are 'stacked' on top of each other, helping to maintain the
single coil sound). Semour Duncan (my choice) makes them, Dimarzio makes them,
EMG makes some low impedance active pickups that also help with this.
Bridges: lots of bridges out there including tremelo bridges that lock,
depending on what you need/want out of a trem you may have to do some routing.
I dunno what are yuu looking for?
dbii
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1408.2 | keep goin' - you're on a roll | RAVEN1::BLAIR | Only rock and roll, but I like it | Tue Aug 01 1989 14:57 | 10 |
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re: .1
Do you have suggestions on non-locking trems? I want to be able
to put the guitar back to normal if necessary someday. Don't want
to replace the nut either. Also, are there different models of
the seymour-duncans in the stacked variety for the strat?
thanks,
-pat
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1408.3 | more, more.... | RAVEN1::DANDREA | whoever dies w/most toys, wins | Tue Aug 01 1989 15:21 | 9 |
| Thanks Dave,
Like Pat said in .2, keep going. We don't know what we want, we
just wanna know what's available.
By "bolt on" I meant replace without cutting drilling, etc. It's
a motorcyle industry term for accessories. I realize you don't "bolt"
anything to pickups. Sheesh. 8^)
Steve
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1408.4 | But when is it vintage? | STAR::DONOVAN | | Tue Aug 01 1989 16:04 | 52 |
| re: Steve, .0
As a fellow Stratocaster owner, I am curious to know why you would
not modify your Strat in any permanent way.
I have had a larger nut installed and new mini-Schaller tuning pegs
installed. A look at the back of the headstock would reveal some
tiny screw holes remaining from the original Fender (plastic) tuning
pegs but it doesn't look bad.
Additionally, I replaced the original, noisy, Fender pickups with the
Seymour Duncan Classic Strat replacement pickups. To my ears, it still
is a bright and clean as a traditional Strat, without the humming, etc.
My guitar appears perfectly stock at a glance. There's nothing wild
about it. The modifications have been well worth it, however.
The reason I raise the question is this: There appears to be a
"vintage guitar mania" going on right now where people are afraid to
alter their instruments in any way, lest the instrument lose its
"vintage" status. Is this true in your case?
Perhaps there is a note on the topic, or perhaps I should start one,
but the vintage thing is out of hand. My 1980 Stratocaster (American)
isn't going to be a vintage guitar for a LONG time. The accurate
tuning, better feel, and quieter electronics are useful to me right
now...more useful than any possible vintage value the guitar MIGHT have
30 years.
I know for a fact there a people playing horrible instruments that they
refuse to modify in any way because of the perceived vintage status
the instrument allegedly possesses. To me, that's just plain missing
the point of playing and enjoying an instrument.
We live in strange times when people consider production line instruments
that cost well under a grand vintage relics and then proceed to inflate the
value of all instruments by creating a market for these instuments.
It inhibits the basic player who wants to USE the instrument but is
afraid he is somehow compromising it. Your average 70s-80s American
made Stratocaster is not a Stradivarius violin (crafted by Atonio
Stradivari in the 1800s).
Please don't take this as an accusation! You may well not want to
alter a brand new instrument, and I certainly understand that feeling.
I just thought I'd raise the issue. Well, ladies and gentlemen, do
we buy to collect 'em or to play 'em. And where do you draw the line
on a given instrument?
Brian
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1408.5 | some ideas | ANT::JACQUES | | Tue Aug 01 1989 16:25 | 85 |
| Stewart MacDonald offers a new device which replaces the middle
spring on a Strat trem, which, they claim, is supposed to
prevent the trem from driving the guitar out of tune. It is
an inexpensive thing that can be installed in minutes. It
might be worth checking out. I doubt it will transform a
stock Fender bridge into a Floyd, but it may improve it
somewhat.
I assume that the stock tuners that come on your guitar are
not precision tuners. You could improve the guitar 100% by
replacing the stock tuners with precision tuners (ie. Schaller,
Grover, Gotah, etc), but I would recommend you go one step further
and replace them with precision *locking* tuners. These were first
introduced by Sperzel and have been copied and used on other guitars
(PRS for one). Unlike regular tuners, which require you to wrap the
string around the tuning post, Sperzels have a pin inside the post
which is cranked up against the string. Since the strings are not
wrapped around the post there is no potential for slippage when you
dive down on the trem bar. Sperzels sell for about $50, and are
available in Stainless Steel, Brass, or Black. This is an excellant
alternative to a locking nut and you don't have to loosen set screws
to tune your guitar.
I understand that Paul Reed Smith has incorporated the locking
feature into their tuners, and have done Sperzel one better by adding
an integral fold-out crank to each tuner. PRS sells their pickups
separately, and I would guess that they also sell the tuners separately
as well. Check with a PRS dealer for availability.
I wouldn't change the pickups unless you are looking for a
differant sound, or quieter operation. Does your Strat have a
3 position of 5 position switch? If it has only 3 positions you
should definately install a 5 position switch right away. Switches
are cheap and the extra 2 positions are essential.
Another device that I have seen advertised is called a fathead.
It is installed between the headstock and the tuners, is made of
thin solid brass. It promises to add sustain, and eliminate
dead spots. I am surprised these are still advertized, as I don't
know of anyone using them, and I am sceptical as to whether they
are worth messing with.
The Sustainic is a device which mounts to the headstock
(can be installed on any instrument) and provides infinite
on demand sustain. These are now being offered by Kramer, Hamer,
and other manufacturers on special models. If you are looking
for sustain (ala Carlos Santana) at any volume level at the
touch of a pedal, the sustainiac is the best way to get it.
Another essential is strap locks. These are available in
various differant flovors. I prefer the type that has a small
pin you press in to attach/dettach the strap. Other stypes
have a donut shaped ring that snaps on over the strap, etc.
Don't leave home without a good set of strap locks.
There are lots of toys out there. Some are good ways to
improve your axe, others are a waste of money. Unfortuneately,
sometimes you have to experiment with them to determine if they
are worthwhile *for you* or not.
I have a 1971 Telecaster. The modifications I have done to it
include:
Seymour Duncan STR3 neck pickup
Black anodized aluminum pick gaurd
Strap locks
Brass nut
Sperzel locking tuners
The only mod that is non-reversable is the installation of the
Sperzel locking tuners, which require the original holes in the
headstock to be inlarged. Other than that, I could return the guitar
to stock condition in under an hour.
The only other thing I would like for my Tele is a Fender gig
bag, so I could tote the guitar around without the hard shell case.
I understand they sell for about $30 to $40. I consider this a
good investment, since they allow you to sling the guitar over
your shoulder for easy transporting.
Have fun,
Mark Jacques
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1408.6 | a few suggestions | RICKS::CALCAGNI | | Tue Aug 01 1989 16:35 | 23 |
| re .0
Unless you're going to a locking tremelo system, I wouldn't replace
the one on your American Standard. IMO, it's the finest non-locking
system around and blows the original Strat design right out of the water.
You may want to look at upgrading your nut, either with a graphite
or with Fenders own low friction design used on the Strat+.
re pickups, the stock American Standard's seem to be really nice
and I would only consider upgrading to some sort of humbucker for
added quietness and/or gain. In addition to the stacked humbuckers
previously mentioned, there are also side-by-side humbuckers that
replace the stock Strat pickups without modification. Note that
you always lose a little bit of the single coil sound when going
to a humbucker. I believe with the stacked designs, you lose a
little high end, while with the side-by-sides, you tend to lose
a little bottom.
Note that the new American Standard and Strat+ already fix a lot of
the things people were complaining about with their old Strats,
like fingerboard radius (flatter) and neck feel.
/rick
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1408.7 | Hot roddin' strats... | RAVEN1::DANDREA | whoever dies w/most toys, wins | Tue Aug 01 1989 16:57 | 10 |
| RE: .4/Brian
No "vintage headtrip" here, Brian. Pat and I are just looking for
a Strat "notesfile catalog of goodies" if you will, and we wanna
know what the "simple" mods are.
Keep 'em comin'!!
Steve 8^)
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1408.8 | A Seymour Duncan vote | STAR::DONOVAN | | Tue Aug 01 1989 17:10 | 16 |
| Hi Steve, Pat,
I re-read my note...boy, it sounds a little cranky! Nothing personal,
of course. But it's good to know you're not on a "vintage headtrip."
On Strat goodies, my best decision was going to the Seymour Duncan
classic Strat replacement pickups...a decision I made after pouring
over the pickups note here in Guitar. I wanted to keep the Strat
sound and eliminate the hum, and that's exactly what happened.
Shielding and grounding is important, too, and if you decide to stay
with the stock Fender pickups, it would certainly be worth doing.
Cheers,
Brian
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1408.9 | What about S.D. Hot Stacks? | RAVEN1::DANDREA | whoever dies w/most toys, wins | Tue Aug 01 1989 17:21 | 9 |
| Thanks Brian,
Are the S.D.'s you mention any "hotter" or are they merely for
humbucking? I love the tone I get especially in position 2, and
5 on the selector. Did you lose any of the "classic strat tone"?
Would you recommend changing only one or two of the pickups? Wer'e
on an "info binge"!! |^)
Steve
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1408.10 | I *love* my Stratocaster! | SALEM::ABATELLI | I don't need no stinkin' Boogie! | Wed Aug 02 1989 10:13 | 38 |
| RE: .9
I have a 1969 Fender Strat and while I "don't" want to ruin
it as a older Strat, I did not like certain things about it. My
stock pickups aren't really *that* noisy as compaired to newer
ones. Personally, I can't believe that any guitar manufacturer
would let some of those pickups leave the factory, but whatcha
gonna do?
I originally wanted a hotter pickup in my "bridge" position,
so in ~1979 I replaced it with this "new" Dimarzio SDS-1. It sounded
GREAT until I turned up the amp. It squeeked and barked and carried
on. It was terrible! I put the original p/u back in.
I now have a SD Classic Stack p/u in the bridge position and
I *love* it! There is also a mini switch option for different wiring
on this unit which I like too. The volume in normal wired mode isn't
any different from my other pickups either. That's important to
me cause I don't want to have to think about volume levels in the
middle of a solo or something. It's *extremely* quiet (in normal mode)
and the tone is very similar to my original bridge p/u. I didn't want
to change the neck p/u to anything else cause I absolutely *love* that
Fender (SRV type) tone.
No other mods were made except a 5 position p/u switch and
a new pickguard, cause I didn't want to put a hole for my mini-
switch in my original one. I'd collect them, but only if I can
"use" them too! I *love* my Strat! That's one guitar I'd never
get rid of. It has the tone I want and it plays great. I also have
a ~1970 Les Paul Custom sunburst that plays great, BUT if the two
are side by side... I play the Strat. It has alot more personality
than the Les Paul. BTW... with the SD stack I have, when you kick
in the overdrive on the amp, this guitar becomes a real animal.
Plenty of sustain (for a Strat) and the tone is GREAT!
When it comes down to it... what else could you want in a guitar?
It can be sweet and clean, or a real (controlled) animal when you
kick in the saturation mode. Ya-Hoo!
Fred (one very satisfied Strat owner for many years)
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1408.11 | exit | STAR::DONOVAN | | Wed Aug 02 1989 10:33 | 19 |
| .9
I love those Position 2 sounds, too! That Knopfler-type sound.
Position 4 is good, also.
The Seymour Duncans I have (Classic Strat) retain all of the
original sounds. Seymour Duncan also makes "Hot Stack" replacement
pickups for Stratocasters, and these would certainly have a hotter
sound. I recommend the pickups note earlier in this conference because
I believe a few people have purchased the hotter pickups and have
reviewed them.
For what it's worth, the guitar tech at Wurlitzer's (Steve) told me
that the SD Classic stacks greatly outsell the SD Hot Stacks.
On strats in general: I only wish it had one more fret! I just need
that 22nd fret once in a while.
Brian
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1408.12 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | The sea refuses no river... | Wed Aug 02 1989 10:38 | 15 |
| Duncan's hot stacks do not look vintage but will drop in with no mods to the
guitar. They are definately hotter than the classic stack which does look
vintage.
re: tremsetter from Stewart McD's
I tried one, installation and adjustment is tricky and takes more than a few
minuites. After putting it on I saw no noticable improvement in the performance
of my floyd rose (which was far from perfect) and it was removed along with
the floyd during my last flirtation with guitar modifications...chances are
the floyd will stay off for good on that particular guitar...
The tremsetter is featured on all strat + guitars btw...
dbii
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1408.13 | Tone expansion | IOSG::CREASY | What's happenin' dudes? | Wed Aug 02 1989 14:12 | 15 |
| On altering (or expanding) the sounds available, there have been
several mods given in Guitar Player over the years. The most recent
involved a rewire, but was "invisible" in that the appearance of
the guitar is unaltered. It uses on of the tone controls to instead
select one of seven (?) sounds... I don't know of anyone who's tried
it.
There's also a new product just on the market that's supposed to
improve the sound from a stock strat. I can't remember the name at the
moment (typical!) but I know that it fits inside the control cavity
without any mods.
FWIW
Nick
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1408.14 | And I like..... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Wed Aug 02 1989 15:57 | 13 |
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A mod that I really like (on my home made mongrel Strat) is wiring
the neck pickup through a pull-up switch pot so that I can select all
pickups at once or just the neck and bridge pickups together. On this
guitar I also split coils on a Jackson Humbucker (wish my Jeff Beck had
4 wires) so that I can go single or humbucking with the aforementioned
switch (yup, used yet another pull-up pot)....
Steve
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1408.15 | Conductive Paint? | FENNEL::IBBETT | Born to hover | Wed Aug 02 1989 16:13 | 13 |
| This seems a good place to ask...
I am refurbishing my '74 Strat, including a complete re-spray. Having
stripped off the old paint and completely sanded it down, I also
found a layer of what I believe is conductive paint inside the body
pickup and control cavities. Unfortunately I had to remove/sand
it out to get the body totally clean.
I would like to replace the conductive paint or use something like
copper foil/tape to help shield the body. Does anyone know of a
source for either (NH/MASS area)?
Thanks, Jimi.
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1408.16 | Conductive Paint... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Thu Aug 03 1989 11:21 | 11 |
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Radio Shack used to sell copper foil, but they have discontinued
it, the only source I know of is Stewart-Macdonald's guitar supply..
they sell conductive paint for (gasp) $20 a can... I bet one of the
HAM radio places like EGE in Salem or Rivendal would carry some kind of
shielding material...
Regards,
Steve
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1408.17 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | The sea refuses no river... | Thu Aug 03 1989 13:17 | 3 |
| Go to your local auto parts store and buy some aliuminum tape. Works great!
dbii
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1408.18 | | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Thu Aug 03 1989 15:46 | 8 |
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Dave, how did you connect the old Al3 tape to ground???
Steve
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1408.19 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | The sea refuses no river... | Thu Aug 03 1989 15:58 | 4 |
| I drove a wood screw with a solder terminal on it right through...wired the
ground to the solder terminal and voilla!
dbii
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