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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1377.0. "Your Indulgence Please" by FPTVX1::KINNEY (Excuse me, your shoe is ringing) Thu Jul 13 1989 15:05

As a somewhat novice rhythm hack, I was looking over Handle With Care by the 
Traveling Wilburys and came across two situations where I do not know what to 
do with the chords. The first in the verse as it is written as below, the 
D/C and G/B markings and in the Chorus the G+ marking. Can anyone help me with 
the fingerings in the first or second position for these. 


In the Verse: (4 = quarter; 8 = eigth)

   D         D/C          G/B         G
|----------------------|--------------------------|
|                      |                          |
|---4----8----8-4----8-|---8-----4.---------------|
|~/                    |              ~/       8/ |
|----------------------|---------4.---------- 8/--|
|   4         8        |                     8/   |
|----------------------|---------4.---------------|
|   4         8        |                          |
|----------------------|--------------------------|

    Been beat up and bat- tered 'round


In the Chorus: (4 = 1/4 note)

   G         G+             C        D
|----------------------|----------------------|
|           #          |    8                 |
|--4----4----4-----4---|----------------------|
|                      |    8   4             |
|--4----4----4-----4---|-----------8^8--------|
|                      |                 4.   |
|--4----4----4-----4---|----8-----------------|
|                      |           8^8   4.   |
|----------------------|----------------------|
                                   8^8   4.

   I'm  so  tired  of       be-ing lone- ly


The ad lib ending refered to in the book I see in the video is Nelson playing 
a D formation on the 7th fret then 9th fret (I think) but I can't tell what 
comes after that. I'll keep plugging away but in the mean time, can anyone 
help??

Dave Kinney
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1377.1I Know, I know!!DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Thu Jul 13 1989 19:3148
    
    
    
    	I know!  I know!  (sheesh, teach a guy a little guitar theory and
    he gets obnoxious, huh)
    
    	Dave, the first letter in the slashed chord refers to the root note
    and whatever else describes it like A, Am, Abm, A7, Am7 etc.  the
    letter to the right of the slash refers to the note in the bass...
    frinstance a chord that I really like is A/C# (Willie Nelson uses it in
    "Always on my Mind") it's plyed like this:
    
    
    
    e            2
    b            2
    g            2
    d            4
    a
    e            The notes barred with the 2nd finger are the A and the C#
    note is added on the d string.
    
    
    	As for the + sign that means that the chord is Augmented.
    
    
    I really admire guys who can play those Geee minor seventh square root
    of PI divid by nine chords, while I'm dubbing around with G major
    (grin)... this months guiatar player has some great chords (with
    humongously complex names) that are easy to play and sound great (to me
    at least)... here's a couple (imagine.... me playing a  D13 with A in
    the bass.... )
    
         Am9    D13/A    G#m7#5   Amaj9
    
    e
    b
    g     5       5         4       6
    d     5       4         4       6
    a
    e                       4
    
    
    	Is this the "balls" or what???
    
    
    
    Steve
1377.2I though I knew, I thought I knew!!DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Thu Jul 13 1989 19:3415
    
    
    
    	Oh, no... my A/C# is wrong... here it is right.....<sigh>
    
    
    e
    b    2
    g    2
    d    2
    a    4
    e
    
    
    	Sorry, <blush>
1377.3I'm glad that you don't wish to "simplify" the chordsDREGS::BLICKSTEINConliberativeTue Jul 18 1989 18:2665
    D/C is a D major chord played over a C bass.
    
    Here's a first position fingerings:
    
    	string         fret
    	------	       ----
    	   e		2
     	   b		3
    	   g		2
    	   d		0
    	   a		3
    	   e
    
    Here's another good voicing (a bit of a stretch):
    
    	string         fret
    	------	       ----
    	   e		
     	   b		7
    	   g		7
    	   d		7
    	   a		3
    	   e
    
    G/B is a G major over a B - some folks call this the "first inversion
    of G but being that inversion implies triad, and the G/B does not
    restrict you to a triad, I would disagree.
    
    Anyway, here are some good voicings
    
    	string         fret
    	------	       ----
    	   e		3
     	   b		0
    	   g		0
    	   d		0
    	   a		2
    	   e
    
    	string         fret
    	------	       ----
    	   e		3
     	   b		3
    	   g		0
    	   d		0
    	   a		2
    	   e
    
    	string         fret
    	------	       ----
    	   e		7
     	   b		8
    	   g		7
    	   d		9
    	   a		
    	   e
    
    	string         fret
    	------	       ----
    	   e		10
     	   b		8
    	   g		7
    	   d		9
    	   a		
    	   e
1377.4Collector's Edition...DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Wed Jul 19 1989 13:2321
    
    
    
    	This really seems as good a place as any to be frustrated!!!  I
    just received an...  ahemmmm.... "Collector's Edition" of "Hot Licks"..
    expecting to learn a whole bunch of really cool stuff.. and in general
    it is a neat book... but the first section (page 10) deals with major
    scales.... and it's wrong!!  What more can I say... it's just
    misprinted... like ummmm... C# being the 3rd tone in g major (puleeeese
    don't tel me that it really is...) and two different scales for
    position two that are both labled G-major...  Dang, this may sound
    picky, but I'm callin' them up...   Heck what if some bright, young (no
    cracks please) guitar student like my self... in a rural area (move
    over moose..) got this book and spent months learning the scales
    wrong...
    
    
    	Dang..
    
    
    Steve
1377.5GPI, pretty good cutomer serviceDNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Wed Jul 19 1989 13:594
    
    
    	Aw shucks.. I just called them and they were wicked nice.. now I'm
    not angry anymore... <grin>
1377.6NEXUS::G_HOUSEBe excellent to everyone!Wed Jul 19 1989 16:113
    What did they have to say of their error?
1377.7They said...DNEAST::GREVE_STEVEIf all else fails, take a nap...Wed Jul 19 1989 16:569
    
    
    
    
    	They said.... "We're sorry..." and promised to get a competent
    musician to review the whole article and then forward corrections to
    the editing folks...  Really a pretty friendly person..
    
    Steve
1377.8Inversions.IDONT::MIDDLETONWed Jul 19 1989 18:1215
    
    RE: .3
    
    You say "being that inversion implies triad."  Why?  I've checked my
    theory books ("Harmony" by Walter Piston, Third Edition, and "Music 
    Theory" by George Thaddeus Jones) and they say nothing that would lead 
    me to such a conclusion.  On the contrary, they talk about first, second,
    and third inversions (the last in relation to seventh chords).  Piston
    even discusses fourth inversions (9th chords).  Am I missing something
    here?  Have I misinterpreted your statement?
    
    Just curious.
    
    
    							John