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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1317.0. "Bass Rig Survey" by FSTVAX::GALLO (Glory Days) Wed May 24 1989 08:15

    
    	Surprisingly enough, I couldn't find a Bass Amp "survey" anywhere
    in this notes file. Since I'm in the market for new gear, I'd like
    to hear about what everyone else is using. 
    
    
    	So.. Bass Players,
    
    		o What kind of amplifier do you use? 
    		o How many watts (into ? ohms)
    		o Are there any features you find especially useful?
    		o What kind of speakers do you use?
    
    	Well you know what kind of info I'm looking for!
    
    Tom 
    	  	  
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1317.1It Loosens Fillings . . .LUDWIG::BOUCHARDWed May 24 1989 09:0619
        I run GK's into Sonic Ev loaded cabinets.  I use the 200watt
    400RB into a 118 400watt EV Sonic cabinet, from the direct out of
    the 400RB into a GK 200RCB into a Sonic 210 loaded with Altec's.
    The 200RCB is basically a smaller version of the 400RB, it is 100watts
    and has compression and chorus, i leave the chorus and compression
    on all the time, this gives me a crisp sustained high end which
    is complimented by the thundering low end from the 18.  I run an
    Mxr 31 band equilizer, and a Rocktron noise gate, through the fx
    loop on the 400RB.  I've played around with many different rigs
    through the years and this is by far the best rig I've had, and
    quite frankly i havent seen anything that i'ld rather have.  Lots
    of people have mentioned concerned about the reliability of Gk's,
    but I've been runnin' this way for 2 years without a problem, i
    guess some people just have bad luck.  My two cents . . .
    
    
                                                 Smokin' Bass,
    
                                                         Dan . . .
1317.2Yamaha and KalamazooELESYS::JASNIEWSKII can feel your heartbeat fasterWed May 24 1989 09:4316
    
    	Well, I play through a Yamaha B100-115, using a extra cab with
    a single 10" in it for boost the highs somewhat. This is crossed
    over at about 500Hz, so that the lows stay out of this cab. The
    B100 series is 100 Watts RMS, and is the *minimum* recommended power
    I'd say for a usable bass amp doing GB work or for a rock band.
    So buy at least 100 watts output, if you expect to play on stage...
    
    	My other amp is an old "Kalamazoo" bass amp, which is tube and
    has about 25 watts of power. This one is fine for use with acoustic
    guitars, but does not have the power for serious use in a rock band.
    It's a combo and uses two 10" speakers and is somehow "tuned" to a
    low E. BTW, if anyone needs a "starter" bass amp, the Kalamazoo is 
    in fine shape and I'd take $75 for it -
                                                                       
    	Joe Jas
1317.4no fancy b.s-AND WE LIKED IT!!!!!HAMER::KRONWed May 24 1989 14:1826
Well here goes
    1-peavey-400 bass top(210w@4ohm)
    1-jbl 18"woof  (handles600w) ordered from jbl wired for 4-ohm
    1-peavey-210 powerpack(output level ctrl only-same pwr section as
    the above amp-w/2-10"scorpion speakers
    crossover variable from 50-500hz;limiter;bass,mid,treble on ch.1
    3-band active w/para-mid on ch.2 5-band graphic;extensive patching
    available including a direct out and channel switching(I do use
    it!)
    a)none of it has ever broken down
    b)I have never had a problem getting any sound I could think of
    out of it
    c)relatively inexpensive to buy
    d)able to buy small and add on a little at a time
    e)easy to figure the damn thing out-everything clearly labelled
    f)good sound w/ every bass I'e ever tried-I've found that alembics
    and others w/that crazy type of circuitry as well as 5-string basses,
   (specifically w/a low"b") aren't done justice by tube bass rigs.
    I'll be first to admit that it's quickly becoming old tech,but then
    again what isn't?
    The only other bass amp I would really consider would be the old
    (good luck gettin'these boys!) bomb-proof Acoustic amps like a 420
    w/the gigundo 4x15 408 enclosure-a truly LOUD and DESTRUCTIVE yet
    good sound even at ear splitting volumes!
    
    
1317.5Yep, that's the one!ELESYS::JASNIEWSKII can feel your heartbeat fasterWed May 24 1989 16:596
    
    	Yeah, the Kalamazoo is the one with the fold out panel thing.
    It's amp is OK I believe, but like I said, not quite enough for
    serious electric rockin'!
                  
    	JJ
1317.6Acoustic BassRICKS::CALCAGNIThu May 25 1989 11:345
    re .4
    
    You're in luck!  Just saw an Acoustic 420 in the WantAds this week.
    
    /rick
1317.7compact peavey bass rigAYOU08::FULLERTONFri Jun 02 1989 08:5327
    Here's what I use for clubbing, jazz concerts, theatre pits, weddings 
    and the like.
    
    Peavey TKO65 amp (65W combo)
    Rak Flanger pedal.
    
    Expansion plans are to add a small (say 35W) guitar amp, to be used in
    the Peavey Bi-amping mode (feed from pre-amp, full cut on bass controls
    on bi-amp, moderate volume, treble controls set as necessary). This
    will give extra drive to the sound, and will allow enhancing via
    flanging of one or other amp's signal.
    
    I find 65W enough for 95% of the work I do, but would like the full
    active graphics of the Peavey TNT150, the catch is that it's so heavy.
    
    The only problem I've had with the Peavey, which is generally well
    designed and built, was when the plastic efects send and return jacks
    stripped the first time I used them. Otherwise the amp is robust and
    reliable.
    
    The amps that everyone is talking about in the UK is Peterson, very
    compact, very powerful and clean, and very expensive. I have the
    brochures in the office if anyone is interested.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Henry
1317.8"Learch" and "Buffy" !!USCTR1::JZAGERWed Sep 27 1989 15:4951
    
    
    Okay, here it goes again!
    
    My system includes two custom built-factory ordered Ibanez's w/active
    electronics that run into a Nady 650 wireless unit (rack mount of
    course) From there it goes into a Pierce Electronics BP-1 Bass Pre-Amp
    .  Then into a Rane 3-way crossover.  My highs go out to a Carver
    100-watt power amp into two Hartke 2x10 cab's.  My mid's go out
    to a Carver 200-watt power amp into two Hartke 4x10 cab's and finally
    my lows go out to another Carver 200-watt power amp into two Hartke
    1x15 cab's.  The preamp has two channels, the outputs can either
    be channel one out, channel two out, or combined out.  Right now
    I'm using the combined out.  I plan on using the seperate channel
    outs and running the system in stereo in the near future.
    
    Also within the rack is a dbx 160x and a BBE Sonic Maximizer.  Also
    a ART SGE will be added within the next couple of weeks.
    
    This system is real nice, you can play at any volume and sound great
    with no noise at all, and this system is comletely versatile.  I
    play hard rock/commercial metal, and I get the sounds I like no
    problem.  I've had jazz players try it, funk players, top 40, etc..
     
    You can get just about any sound you could possibly want.
    
    I also have a Peavey Combo 300 that I took the Black Widow out of
    and put in a vintage JBL 15" into that I found at our rehearsal
    hall.  This thing sounds great!  I mess around with that also, using
    the built in crossover, I take the highs output to a Hartke 2x10
    cabinet through my Carver 100-watt power amp and use the Peavey
    itself for the lows.  I'll throw in the dbx 160x and the BBE through
    the effects loop and I'll use this set up for smaller places.
    But when we do bigger shows, like high schools (which have great
    big stages!) or bigger clubs I always use the larger set-up.
    
    "Learch" is the name dubbed for the big system and "Buffy" is the
    smaller systems dubbed name from some of our crew.
    
    I guess the big thing is to don't be afraid to experiment with
    equipment.  If you have a doubt about something, call someone up
    at a respectable music store and ask questions or talk to any fellow
    bass players that may have had or know someone that has had the
    set-up you want to try.  But no matter what, your only satisfyed
    for awhile, and then you try something else!
    
    Enjoy!
    
    Ed "Mr. Ed" Degagne
    
       
1317.9Keep It Simple and Powerful!SPGBAS::DADDIECOThat's Just The Way It Is .....Thu Sep 28 1989 10:1235
    My system is very basic:
    
    Mesa Boogie Bass 400 
    400 watts into 8 ohms
    Speakers = Electrovoice 400's -  2-15's in one cabinet. (It's heavy!)
    
    All the gear is enclosed in road rack/cases.  I'd have it no other way,
    especially if you're gigging regularly. My stuff gets a lot of abuse
    and the road cases were well worth the bucks.
    
    The head rack contains the 400 watt amp (4 spaces) - a Boss Tuner (one
    space) and a dbx160 Compressor (1 space) ---- and that's it!  I also
    use a Nady 201 wireless system but it sits on top of the rack.
    
    Simplicity is what I like - the tuner's in line so I can speed_tune at any
    time, the dbx is there as an insurance policy so I don't pop/snap a string
    and crack a speaker and the amp itself is there on shock-mounts to help
    avoid any damage while transporting.  The Nady is merely a convenience
    so I can walk out into the audience to do audio checks for the band. 
    It's also nice if you like to jump around without a chord tieing you
    down.
    
    The big disadvantage to my system is that the speaker cabinet and head
    rack takes two people for the most part to handle during loads and
    unloads.  But I have managed it myself in a pinch.
    
    The biggest advantage is that my system will be two years old next May
    and since I've had it, it's been used/abused regularly and except for
    one fuse that suddenly blew for no apparent reason, I have had no
    problems with my rig.  
    
    I will of course at sometime have to replace the tubes, and I certainly
    am not looking forward to that expenditure.  
    
    Dan