Title: | GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion |
Notice: | Discussion of the finer stringed instruments |
Moderator: | KDX200::COOPER |
Created: | Thu Aug 14 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 3280 |
Total number of notes: | 61432 |
After reading Dan Hick's rave review on the Mesa Boogie pre- amp I decided to investigate it because of some serious skepticism concerning anything being that good. I've had a certain amount of respect for Mr. Hick's and realized we all make concessions towards earning a living. So off to Daddy's in Nashua,NH I went. I used my own Schecter Strat with the Boogie Studio Preamp and it's reverb and used a Midiverb II in the effects loop for flanging etc.a Peavey M3000 Solid State power amp,through a Roland 4 12 cabinet which had Eminence speakers. The standard tone control's were similiar to Fender with a little more headroom or at least it seemed so. I ran treble on 3-4 with the bright switch on,middle was up full,bass at 3. Volumes changed from 3 to 10 Other than the usual tone controls it had a bright switch for the rythmn channel or clean sound and fat and bright switch for the distorted or lead mode. A standby mode/on and off and auto in/out eq switches. Rear access for channel switching capabilities and for signal input. lead/rythmn switch,EQ switch,and reverb switch and an effects send with stereo return. You have a rythmn/clean vol and master channel vol,lead drive and lead master volumes. And 2 separate overall master volumes left and right. I ran the main master volumes wide open and did not hear any noise. The key here is flexibility of which for the money there is an awful lot probably not as much as the ADA MP1 but enough for me. The case is well constructed,of a heavy gauge sheet metal,venting louvers on the side,5 tubes,2 transformers,reverb springs,1 printed circuit card,comes with rackmount ears,footswitch,cable. ****************************************************************************** I tried the MP1 quickly and was impressed with the clean tone and flexibility it had to offer,but I have not yet made it into the midi revolution,I LIKE KNOBS! (Plus another $200 couldn't be justified) ***************************************************************************** I was impressed with the Boogie preamp which could give me a great clean/quiet tone/sound with warmth. Claptonish crunch to a slightly distorted sound. To a serious overbearing metal sound. It is incredibly quiet and the effects loop worked well with a MVII and is UNCOMPLICATED. ******************************************************************************* My only beef at this point with it was the delay time from going from crunch to clean or vicaversa was very noticeable. But this seems to be less noticeable as time went on. ******************************************************************************** I always like to look at thing's a couple of times before I throw down my cash and my first born. I read a review on the Boogie Quad and for more than twice the money I felt the Quad was too much for me. Also it is possible to plug it into a guitar amp and not have to go the power amp/cab routine which is outlined in the owners manual. However keep in mind that this can either be a disadvantage or an advantage as your amp will significantly color the sounds and add noise to your setup. I tried both plugging into the front end of a Fender Twin and into the poweramp in of the same amp. I also tried the same with another amp and in stereo. Using the preamp in stereo with stereo effects was very pleasing and pleasant to listen to and perhaps very useful in recording. Stereo out's will enable me to feed one side to a power amp for stage volume,and the other to go to a house or band mixer. Using it with a power amp is to me an ideal setup,as tube manufacturers are getting scarcer as time goes on and solid state power is looking more manageable.(how much power is still being discussed) The owners manual goes through each control and discusses there effect on the overall sound. It also discusses ground loop problems in rack systems which Mesa provides a switch to eliminate loop problems. It does not provide you with a list of setting's as you see with Seymour Duncan and the new Fender's,but does recommend settings. It has lineout's and recording outputs which simulate the sound of a speaker. My personal intentions are to buy a theile cab with 1 12" EV L series speaker and add another 12" with a half openback. BTW, I still like my old fender amp's.... But the Boogie Equipment has an awful lot to offer.... Comments,question's are welcome.
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1294.1 | opinions.... | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | Thu May 04 1989 09:34 | 5 | |
Anyone who is willing to critique my review can send me mail at Video::Busenbark would be appreciated..... Rick | |||||
1294.2 | nice little unit !! | ANT::JACQUES | Thu May 04 1989 12:00 | 9 | |
I think that if this preamp had been available a year ago, I probably would have bought one. Once I get my home studio completed, I may decide to get one for recording guitar straight into my multi-tracker. Does this preamp include a headphone jack ?? Mark | |||||
1294.3 | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | Thu May 04 1989 17:02 | 4 | ||
The preamp doesn't have a headphone jack. BTW one my requirements was specifically for recording as my neighbors are close by and have kid's asleep when the tape is running..... | |||||
1294.4 | CHBGUE::BOTTOM_DAVID | Windsock management | Mon May 08 1989 09:38 | 6 | |
Craig Fuller (lead singer for Little Feat, formerly of Pure Prarie league) was using one last night. he's not a great player but it sounded good to me... dbii | |||||
1294.5 | PNO::HEISER | Cold Rock the Groove! | Mon Aug 21 1989 13:13 | 14 | |
In the new Boogie catalog, there are some other new products to look out for: - Shock-Mount rack enclosures - MIDI Matrix System (128 programs, works on any of the 16 MIDI channels, optional Abacus foot controller, random program selection) This MIDI system looks like competition for the MP1. Total price is $1,000 with the Abacus. The Abacus is $379 by itself. They're offering some new Bass cabs too. Mike | |||||
1294.6 | more info on preamp | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | Fri Oct 13 1989 09:58 | 29 | |
Since I've bought the preamp,I have used it successfully for recording. And found some more info... 1. When powering up from standby mode,output volumes should be set at 0,then turn the volume up or power up the power amp last.(I believe the pop from the switch damaged a speaker) 2. I find the sounds I get from the Speaker emulator output's more pleasing to my ear than the line out's when using a solid state power amp. 3. I don't like using digital effects with the effects loop, but this maybe a real personal nit,I think it detracts from the preamp's sound even though the effect's do sound good. 4. I believe the Studio.22 amplifier(22 watts)is capable of producing the same sounds in mono and is very similiar and usable with a poweramp. 5. For direct recording purpose's it has really worked out. It's been used primarily in mono mode through a Fender Twin, a Peavey M2600,Fender Super Reverb,BGW 250,Acoustic 130 and a Mesa Calibre .22. The previous amp's power amp input's were used,and effects returns where possible. If I was playing pop/metal covers I'd probably want another sound at the touch of a switch. | |||||
1294.7 | PNO::HEISER | here come the big guitars! | Fri Oct 13 1989 17:51 | 6 | |
In the new Guitar World, there is a special on The Who's guitar setups. Because of hearing damage, Pete Townsend limits himself to 4 Mesa/Boogie Quad preamps that go direct to the board. 1 for acoustic, 1 for electric, and 2 spares. Mike | |||||
1294.8 | RE:.7, minor nit | IOSG::CREASY | Dr Zog's Sex Wax - for all your musical needs | Mon Oct 23 1989 09:12 | 7 |
> ...4 Mesa/Boogie Quad preamps ... Actually, I think they're Studio preamps. FWIW, Nick |