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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

1286.0. "Headstock Inlays?" by CAPVAX::ZNAMIEROWSKI (Spiders in her Pockets) Fri Apr 28 1989 12:35

    Sorry if this isn't in the right place, I couldn't think of where else
    it might go, so...
    
    Does anyone know how to do headstock inlays?  Akin to Richie Sambora's
    star on his, I'm wondering if you have to (in some fashion) chisel out
    a bit (micro-mm's) in the shape of the particular inlay.  I have a
    decal, but it's a tad thick, and I'd like to get it flush with the
    wood, so when I varnish over, it's not really raised.
    
    Any ideas??
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Craig
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1286.1dremel toolSALEM::DWATKINSIn the wht room w/blk curtains...Fri Apr 28 1989 12:565
    I think they use a dremel (tm) tool with a small inlay bit to "hog"
    out the wood enough for the decalor inlay to fit flush.
    
    
    Don
1286.2Some infoTYFYS::MOLLERHalloween the 13th on Elm Street #7Fri Apr 28 1989 15:0149
    A lot of people/companies cut out the area for the inlay making the
    hole larger than the piece being inlayed, then place the inlayed part
    (usually using either a special glue or clear epoxy), then take the
    wood shavings that were removed (from the finger board), grind them up,
    mix the ground wood with clear epoxy & fill in the open areas between
    the inlay and the fretboard (Ovation clearly does this on thier necks
    that have ebony fingerboards).

    People who do custom work will look upon this sort of thing very poorly
    but recognise that the person who put the inlay in at the factory
    probably was not earning much above minimum wage & the process allows a
    less skilled person to do the job.

    If the guitar is already assembled, then you need to trace the inlay
    (using a pencil) against the place you are planning on putting it. Use
    a dremmel tool that has a depth control flange on it (makes it into a
    mini router) and cut out the major areas as best as possible. You may
    have to change router bits occasionally (starting with a larger routing
    cutter and working down to a much smaller bit). Most inlay is very
    thin.

    If you want to work with wood inlay & the part is not already
    installed, you need a jewelers saw (the blade resembles a single thread
    attached to a support that looks like a small hand operated jig saw).
    You carefully clamp the parts together that you plan to cut, then cut
    them out together (this can be lots harder than it sounds). When you
    are done, you can pop out both pieces and insert one into the other
    (the jewelers saw makes very narrow cuts. In a sence, this is very much
    like building your own jigsaw puzzel out of 1/64 to 1/16 inch thick
    wood veneer. Something that takes a lot of practice and determination.

    When you see a guitar with round dots as fret markers, these were
    most likely cut using a milling bit (it leaves a flat hole) on a
    drill press. Milling bits are for steel/aluminum/brass/metals, and
    not sold for wood working, so, they are harder to find.

    Luthiers Mercantile stocks most of the materials that you would need
    and has a lot in the way of books that cover this sort of thing.

    I personally don't like a lot of inlay unless it's a pseudo picture.
    Big blocks or trapizoids, etc do nothing for me. I've done a half
    moon out of abalone (nice reds/greens/blues/pearl) that was very nice
    (there was a very simple maidens head to the side). I drilled holes &
    scratched lines, filling them in with ground ebony & epoxy. It's a lot
    of fun, but you mist have steady hands and draw up exactly what you
    really want. Watch out for the dust from mother of pearl or abalone,
    as it's quite hard on the lungs.

							    Jens
1286.3Thanks!!!CAPVAX::ZNAMIEROWSKIOh,dosh MeatbalzFri Apr 28 1989 17:576
    Actually, my inlay is (don't laugh) a little pig, no bigger than a
    penny.  My great admiration for Gilmour will explain this.  I've had
    this little pig on my old neck for about 4 years, and would hate to get
    rid of it because I got a new neck, I'd like to put it in there
    permanently.  Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll let you know how it
    turns out!!
1286.4exVLNVAX::ALECLAIRESat Apr 29 1989 17:3710
    I would
    1.  trace the shape of the decal where you want to inlay with a
    single edge razor
    2. with a small chisel remove material for the thickness of the inlay
    3. glue the inlay in with whatever, super-glue for some and crazy-glue
    for others.
    4. finish spray sanding sealer/pink see thru laquer. 
    
    But I prefer no inlays at all. Unless the things sounds.
    
1286.5ZYDECO::MCABEEles haricotsMon May 01 1989 09:575
    re: .4
    
    I don't think the super/krazy glues will adhere to wood.

    Bob
1286.6exVLNVAX::ALECLAIREFri May 05 1989 11:222
    There is a special crazy glue for wood. Try Weld-Bond space age
    adesive, claims to glue anything to anything. Looks like Elmer's White.