Conference napalm::guitar

    
     I got a set of strings like this for my bass at Xmas. The salesman
    at Daddy's (also a bass player) said they're great (you'd expect
    that though) so my wife sprung for a set.
    
     I like 'em. The difficulty would be to definitely identify the
    'cryogenics' as the reason.
    
     They feel and sound good to me.....
    
      Bob

    
    I bought a set of Blue Steel's about six months ago. They cost about
    $3.00 more a set than the Markley Super Wounds that I normally use.
    So, that's $31.00, Canadian.
    
    Well, I've NEVER has so much trouble keeping my axe in tune!!
    
    Told this to the guy that sold them to me, and he said I'm the first
    one to complain about that. Can't figure it, cause I've never had
    any tuning problems before.
    
    I do have to admit that I really did like the sound, though.
    
    Barry C

    I probably wouldn't have tried these strings if I didn't get them for
    $7.00 (I've seen them in the $10-$11 price range). 
    
    Probably the best set of strings I've ever put on an acoustic, and I'm
    going to get spoiled by them. They hold their tone extremely
    well, and really bring out the best sound from my guitar. 
    
    Big story on the box about how the strings are "cryogenically" made.
    The metal is heated to a controlled temperature, etc. Supposedly makes
    for a stronger string with crisper highs and fuller lows. 
    
    Two points of contention:
    
    1. They're expensive. If someone can tell me where to get them for a
       reasonable price, post the info here (mail order sources are
       welcome!).
    
    2. The packaging seems wasteful. The blue box is shrinkwrapped, and
       then the package _inside_ the box is also shrinkwrapped. Seems no need
       for double shrinkwrapping, IMO. 
    
    Anyone else tried these strings?   

    
    
    
    	I've tried the Bass strings and I didn't like them. They went 
    dead much faster the the other brands I've tried. They are quite
    expensive. The Bass strings go for $25-$30 a set. 
    
    	FWIW, the string are not heated, but cooled. 
    
    -Tom
    

>   Big story on the box about how the strings are "cryogenically" made.
>   The metal is heated to a controlled temperature, etc. Supposedly makes
>   for a stronger string with crisper highs and fuller lows. 
 
    Cryogenics is a process in which the strings are brought down to a 
    very low temperature,  As close to "Absolute zero" (0�kelvin) as
    possible. I believe 0�kelvin is -273�c. Supposedly the cold treatment
    relieves the stresses that form in metal during the heat-treatment
    process. I think the current method of cryogenics uses liquid nitrogen
    to achieve the super-low temperatures, but it still does not reach 
    absolute zero.
    
    The biggest advantage to cryogenically treated strings is that they
    stay in tune longer, and last longer. Another company that makes
    strings which are longer lasting and stay in tune better is D.R.
    strings. They are not cryogenically treated. Instead, these strings
    are wound tighter and more consistantly than other brands. They
    claim they use the same amount of metal to make a .024 string as
    other manufacturers use to make a .028 due to the tighter winding.
    
    I've tried both types and they both seem to be excellant strings,
    but a little more expensive than other brands.
     
    Mark
    
    

     Can You say " Creative marketing " ?

    I won't mind paying more if the strings last longer. I just put them
    on; we'll see. 
    

    re .1
    
    Yes, I tried the bass strings out and also found they went dead faster
    than what I'm used to (and I normally use Rotosounds!).  Kind of funny
    when you read the hype.  Maybe the process works better on the smaller
    guitar sets.

re .2

Where can you get DR strings?  I remember reading about them *somewhere* and
deciding I wanted to try a set, but I can't remember where I saw them.  I'm 
sure it was in some mail order catalog....

steve

    As a rule, I've had good luck with Dean Marckley electric strings.
    tuning, lasting, over all tone/feel...
    
    I've tried the standard acoustic strings a few times, but went back
    to my old standard:  Dadarrio j15s..  I'm always up for somethin
    new though,,, I may try these next time.  I've also seen a new
    product from GHS "Vintage Bronze"..  The color of these strings
    appears to be much brighter then other bronze strings I've noted.
    (Color as in visual..)  .. fwiw..
    
    Anyone tried these Vintage Bronze strings ?

    I bought two sets of D R strings from Daddy's Junky Music store
    in Shrewsbury, Ma.  I would imagine all Daddy's stores have them.
    The sets I bought are for electric, with a .009 E string. So far
    I have only used one set, and they seem excellant. I bought two
    sets from Daddy's for ~$15.00. That is a little on the high side
    for strings, but It was worth a try.
    
    Pure coincidence...I was trying to get in touch with T.C. electronics
    a few months ago to ask about some of their efx and I ended up calling
    a New Jersey number. It turns out that TC had gone out of business, 
    and the company that sells D R strings had taken over their office
    building, and was using TC's old telephone number. I had an interesting
    conversation with one of the owners of the company. This prompted me
    to try their strings. 
    
    Maybe it's pure marketing hype, but these strings do seem to be more
    stable than the others brands I've tried (GHS, Dean Markley, Fender,
    DiAddario, Earnie Ball, etc).
    
    Mark