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1153.1 | Silvertone/Danelectro | AQUA::ROST | She's looking better every beer | Fri Feb 17 1989 12:26 | 13 |
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Yep, I have one I bought for $10. Also a bass for $65. Same pickup!!!
Who needs EMGs and a Floyd??? 8^) 8^) 8^) 8^)
Dealers usually sell them for $200-300 in good shape. They used
to be easy to find cheap until folks like Dan Forte ("Teisco Del
Rey" of Guitar Player fame) started talking them up in the early
80s.
BTW, they were made by Danelectro for Sears, most Dan-o fans
are not too particular over the name on the headstock.
Do dir/title="off the wall" for more on these beasts.
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1153.2 | Bye Bye Teisco | ANT::JACQUES | | Fri Feb 17 1989 13:12 | 15 |
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BTW, I read in GP that Teisco Del Rey's column is being "discontinued
for now". Apparently, there may be some interest, but no real money
involved with off-the-wall guitars. I thought the articles were
a nice departure from the (state-of-the-art_be_the_first_one_on_your
block_with_a_zebra-graphic_floyd_rose_strat_clone_where_freddy_Tesdesco_
played_last_month_and_how_much_he_got_payed) articles that you see
in GP month after month.
Mark
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1153.3 | Teisco gets a new job! | FSTVAX::GALLO | Ultrix Instructor | Fri Feb 17 1989 13:16 | 8 |
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Re: .-1
Teisco has a new job with "Guitar World" magazine.
He's doing the same old "Off The Wall" stuff, just a new name.
I guess the "no real money" was at GP. 8-)
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1153.4 | It's believable | SQUID::GOODWIN | I've got a mind to give up livin' | Fri Feb 17 1989 15:17 | 6 |
| The Silvertones were mean sounding blues guitars . . .
Another notable player who used one from time to time was
Randy California of Spirit.
/Steve
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1153.5 | Around 1965 Danelectro became Coral | TYFYS::MOLLER | Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7 | Fri Feb 17 1989 16:01 | 31 |
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The name 'LIPSTICK PICKUP' comes from the fact that Danelectro wound
their pickups using a magnet and some woven cloth tape, then took 2
chrome lipstick covers, slit the bottom of one, so they could slide then
together, drilled a hole on one end for the pickup wires, slipped the
coil/magnet into one lipstic cover & slid the other one over the rest
ofthe pickup. I guess chrome lipstick covers were easier to come by
in the 50's and 60's.
Yes, Randy California (of Spirit) used a guitar with these pickups on
the original recording of 'I Got A Line On You'. Nice sound.
Danelectro guitars were often made with pine sandwiched between two 1/8
inch layers of tempered masonite. The Pine provided support for the
neck and the edges. The guitars are hollow except where the bridge
would be attached. Usually they are painted solid colors, since a
natural finish on masonite is not much to look at.
I used to own a guitar-o-lin, which was often called the long-horn
model. Mine had 32 frets, and it was an unusual instrument to say the
least. I won't say it was a good guitar, because Danelectro really
wasn't shooting for a top of the line market position, but it wasn't
bad either. Unique sound. This guitar was stolen from me back in 1978
or so (when I lived in L.A.) - Sorry to lose it. The extra 10 or 12
frets were pretty difficult to play & the intonation seemed to get
worse as you reached the 32nd fret.
Most of those wonderful old Silvertone amplifiers (that everyone seemed
to have had as one of their first guitar amps) were made by Danelectro.
Jens
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1153.6 | Lipstick knockoff's | ANT::JACQUES | | Mon Feb 20 1989 08:41 | 12 |
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Chandler Industries is offering a copy of the Lipstick pickups.
McDuffs has a Strat copy hangin' on the wall with a set of them.
I haven't heard it, but I would imagine the simple design must
be relatively easy to recreate. Chandler Industries is the same
company that markets the Tube Driver, and sells inexpensive guitar
components (bodies, necks, etc).
I have seen Los Lobos' lead guitarist use a Strat with Lipstick
pickups and they do sound punchy.
Mark
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1153.7 | Catalogue? | TALLIS::MUMFORD | Jim Mumford DTN 226-6248 | Mon Feb 20 1989 12:40 | 9 |
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re .6
Does Chandler Industries offer a catalogue?
( I'm interested in necks and pickups, mostly )
Jim
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1153.8 | Sorry... | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Which way did they go? | Mon Feb 20 1989 13:36 | 4 |
| Yes, they do. I don't have the address handy, but there are regular
ads in Guitar Player. I know they have one this month.
Greg
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1153.9 | See you at Electro's! | HSOMAI::RENTERIA | | Fri Mar 22 1991 15:44 | 13 |
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If you ever get down to Houston, be sure and visit the home of the
Hottest Blues Jam in Houston (every Wednesday night) at
DAN ELECTRO'S GUITAR BAR!
Several of 'em (with 'customized' paint jobs) hangin' on the walls...
Tell 'em Anita sent you...
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1153.10 | Dano ramblin | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Buckethead for president | Thu Sep 17 1992 13:58 | 46 |
| Hey, looks like the Danelectro note needs some action.
As mentioned previously, Randy California used one of these. I always
loved that rippin distortion tone he got (a la "Mechanical World").
Well, the other night I was borrowing a friend's Dano/Silvertone,
hadn't even seen one in years, and I cranked it up with some
distortion, backed off a little on the tone knob, and there it
was: the California sound. I'd forgotten how much fun these
things are to play; cheesy but nice.
This particular model was the single pickup, vaguely Strat shaped,
with amp-in-the-case. For those who've never seen em, this is a
real, plug into your wall, tube amp; not too loud, but it can get
some rude sounds at bedroom volume when you crank it. The deluxe
double pickup model supposedly had tremelo on the amp, too! The
case-amps are really more of a novelty though; the guitars sound
a lot better through a big amp.
As stated, the Dano/Silvertones are actually pretty hollow and they're
light as a feather. The neck scale is 23.5", smaller than standard
Gibson. Materials are cheap; masonite, pine, shelf-paper, etc. but
you'll find real rosewood on the boards, most of it better quality
than what you typically see on new guitars these days, The necks are
well shaped and comfortable; I've yet to run across one of these that
didn't play like butter. The old lipstick tube pickups give a bright,
loud, edgey tone. People have been popping these into Strats lately,
but I think they sound better in the original instruments. Something
about the combination of those pickups, short scale, featherlight body,
etc, just works.
These guitars also had some rather advanced features for their time and
price range. All but the very earliest Danos are actually very well
shielded and quiet. Company founder Nat Daniel was a Leo Fender type;
not much of a player, but a talented engineer. Another innovation was a
neck-tilt adjust mechanism remarkably similar to the one Fender patented
and used a good 9 years after Nat started doing it. According to Nat,
he never bothered to patent the idea because he thought it was too simple
and obvious.
While Brian's probably right on typical prices, note that the same friend
who lent me the Silvertone just sold one of the two pickup versions with
case-amp, mint condition, for $450. I've seen similar high price tags
on some of the higher end Danos, and the really rare stuff (like the
Coral Sitar, also Dano built) gets into 4 figures!
/rick
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1153.11 | | MARX::SAKELARIS | | Thu Sep 17 1992 14:33 | 13 |
| >>just sold one of the two pickup versions with
case-amp, mint condition, for $450.
Oh Lord. I *gave* mine away back in '69. I had the double pickup model,
and yes it did have tremolo. I seem to remember that it was an 8 watt
amp inside the case, with a Jensen 8" speaker. Mine didn't play like
butter, but that's only cuz I didn't know any better and used flat
wound strings.
From that set up, I went to a light blue Fender Mustang and dark blue
Kustom amp, and thus began my suffering from GTS.
"sakman"
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1153.12 | | LEDS::BURATI | or maybe just a change of climate | Fri Sep 18 1992 20:12 | 4 |
| Hey, rick, I just read that Randy California was with Jimmy James and the
Blue Flames of Hendrix' Greenwich Village days.
--Ron
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1153.13 | extra Jimmies on it | RICKS::CALCAGNI | Buckethead for president | Mon Sep 21 1992 09:00 | 2 |
| Sounds right; I seem to remember some sort of connection between Randy
and Jimi.
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1153.14 | | LEDS::BURATI | or maybe just a change of climate | Mon Sep 21 1992 14:11 | 1 |
| Someone Jimmied the lock on my van once and stole my buddy's Guild Starfire.
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1153.15 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Tue Sep 22 1992 07:15 | 24 |
| Yep, I luv them Dans. My "fave-rave" is the "Convertiable" (sp?)
acoustic, with pickup. Bought mine for $200, put gold strings on
it, and it JUST falls short of sound next to my D-45. NOT!
BuT, it's one fun guitar. I have 25 Dans/Corals/Silvertones, and
for the $$$$, even now, very little out there is more fun to play.
As far as the Pickups, I bought a few from Angela Insts for $75 ea
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yup, call be stupid, but I think they
were the overall better PU ever made. 2 of them wired like a
humbucking PU SCREAMS. I potted them into a mold that makes
Dan Armstrong (Clear wonders) pickups, and NOTHING screams like that
combo.
If anyone needs reprinted catalogs from Dano, let me know, check
my address under TUBES, TUBES, TUBES.
I need Coral catalog, and a schematic (PLEASE!!!!) to fix my Coral
"Killer-Watt" amp. I got one set in MINT shape, including
2 8-12" cabinets. HELP ME PLEASE!!!!
Jay Tashjian
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