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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1111.1 | | PNO::HEISER | Arizona: The Battle for Seattle | Thu Mar 16 1989 11:40 | 8 |
| How about Lotus guitars and Gorilla amps? Anyone ever hear of these?
Would it be good for a person's first electric set-up or we talking
"you get what you pay for" here?
The Lotus is a strat type that I can get for $175, new. Should
I bother or wait until I can afford something better?
Mike
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| 1111.2 | Opinion, of course | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Caught in a mosh | Fri Mar 17 1989 14:32 | 13 |
| They're not *real* bad...kinda like Mako, Series 10, or Hondo. You
*do* get what you pay for though...
I only played one once. If they're like most low priced vendors,
there's probably a lot of variation between different guitars, even if
they are the same model. Try out several and see if you find one you
can live with.
However, you could probably buy a used Ibanez for around the same
price that you'd be more happy with in the long run.
Greg
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| 1111.3 | | PNO::HEISER | Arizona: The Battle for Seattle | Mon Mar 20 1989 14:00 | 14 |
| I'm at a point where I've out-grown the one I've been learning on.
My starter guitar is the only one that I can't perform E-position
bar chords on the first fret. I've borrowed a friend's Takamine
12 string and a Martin 6 string and they both play like dreams without
hindering my own abilities. For some reason, my starter guitar's
strings are too high off the neck, tough to get them down on the
first fret :-).
Right now I'm looking at something that won't hinder me but allow
me to grow with frustrating me. My choices are narrowed down to
a 12 string with a pickup or a 6 string electric. Still shopping
around...
Mike
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| 1111.4 | Finally something on Zion | PNO::HEISER | Walking in 2 Worlds... | Tue May 30 1989 23:16 | 47 |
| This note was prompted by Note 611 "Guitar Endorsements". I
recently received some literature from Zion Guitar Technology and
one of the pieces follows. I tend to agree with them and would
rather buy a guitar from a company that thinks like them than buy
something just because Vai's or Clapton's name is on it.
Zion Guitar Technology - A note about endorsements:
"While it is the policy of many companies to 'buy endorsements'
by giving away products, cash, or other incentives, in order to
create an image in the marketplace, we have determined not to
follow that trend. All of the artists mentioned below paid for
their instruments. Several of them actually bought them through
their local dealer. The premise being 'If it's a great guitar,
it's worth paying for.' In fairness to our dealers, their
customers, the artists we deal with, and ourselves, we will
maintain that commitment."
Current User List (1/1/89)
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Dawayne Bailey Chicago/Bob Seger/LA Studio
Bob Boykin Solo Artist/LA Studio
Pat Buchanon Hall & Oates/Cameo/NY Studio
Jeff Campbell Sting
Jeff Cook Alabama
Chris Davis Glad
Dan Gaub Illustrator
Tom Hanby Second Chapter of Acts
Bob Hartman Petra
James Hollihan Russ Taff
David Hunter The Limit
Phil Keaggy Phil Keaggy Band
Jeff Liggens Jeffrey Osborne
Kerry Livgren Kansas/AD
Johnny McGhee Jeffrey Osborne
Jerry McPherson Amy Grant Band
Russ Morton Rightside
Tim Norris The Imperials
Sheldon Reynolds Earth, Wind, & Fire
Velpo Robertson Robbin Thompson
Chris Rodriquez Amy Grant Band/Michael W. Smith Band
Kim Simmons Savoy Brown
Dick Smith Earth, Wind, & Fire
Ed Stockton Image
Jeff Stone Steve Taylor
Russ Taff Russ Taff
Guy Thomas Kenny Loggins/LA Studio
Maitland Ward Jeffrey Osborne/LA Studio
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| 1111.5 | | PNO::HEISER | Thursday's Child,dressed up with no place to go... | Thu Jul 20 1989 19:15 | 4 |
| If anyone is interested, the June 1983 issue of Guitar Player featured
this guitar line. The Silverbird model was on the cover.
Mike
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| 1111.6 | Zion Radicaster review in Guitar World | PNO::HEISER | Rude Dog's Trainer | Mon Nov 13 1989 17:43 | 8 |
| The December '89 issue of Guitar World has a review of the Zion
Radicaster written by Carbide Johnson.
What I'd like to know is, how critical are these guys? I've seen some
mags (i.e., Stereo Review) where every manufacturer can do no wrong.
How honest are the guitar mag reviewers?
Mike
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| 1111.7 | If YOU like it, that's the real test | CSC32::G_HOUSE | I just can't slow down | Tue Nov 14 1989 16:52 | 12 |
| How straight up are they? Hard to say, since there is so much superior
quality equipment available these days...
It's VERY rare to read a bad review though.
Rating equipment is a pretty subjective thing too. Example: I happened
to hate the digital distortion in the GSP-5, but I read lots of reviews
of it in here that really liked it. Maybe the people that review for
the magazines really DO like the equipment, that doesn't mean that YOU
will.
Greg
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| 1111.8 | | PNO::HEISER | Bo DOES know Diddley! Film @ 11! | Wed Jan 10 1990 13:49 | 7 |
| Check out the new issue of "Guitar World". Zion has a full page ad in
there showing off the Radicaster with the "Pickasso" paint job that won
first place in the L.A. Guitar Show.
It would go great with my Kitty :-)
Mike
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| 1111.9 | | PNO::HEISER | Kitty Hawk fever | Mon Feb 26 1990 16:09 | 4 |
| I received news today from the president of Zion (Ken Hoover) that
Daddy's Junky Music will take on the Zion line sometime in Q4.
Mike
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| 1111.10 | weird chioce | FACVAX::BUCKLEY | | Mon Feb 26 1990 16:42 | 7 |
| -1
Bad move. While Zion makes some great guitars, they are iffy (ie they
are all individually done), so some a really great and some are ok.
Kinda like the *original* Jacksons...and look where they are today!
I don't think the Zion line will catch on in the NE Marketplace, but
that's my guess.
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| 1111.11 | | PNO::HEISER | totally rad Radicaster | Tue Feb 27 1990 11:30 | 24 |
| > Bad move. While Zion makes some great guitars, they are iffy (ie they
> are all individually done), so some a really great and some are ok.
> Kinda like the *original* Jacksons...and look where they are today!
> I don't think the Zion line will catch on in the NE Marketplace, but
> that's my guess.
First of all, these are custom guitars and that eliminates most
consumers right off the bat. With a Zion, you aren't going to attract
the youngsters that buy Ibanez's and Kramer's because Vai, Satriani,
and EVH play them. That's a lot of $$$ in that age bracket alone!
Zion guitars will do well in any marketplace where people want a guitar
that is well built and can be configured to THEIR taste. They serve a
limited market space to begin with and are a decent addition to a
store's high-end line. When it comes to high-end, not everyone wants
or can afford a JEM.
Also, they are hand-crafted as you stated and not cranked out in
volumes by machines. Zion only makes a limited amount every month
because of this.
As far as custom guitars go, they are reasonable.
Mike
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| 1111.12 | | XOANAN::HEISER | Amadeus, Bach, Beethoven, Kitty Hawk | Thu Mar 08 1990 12:11 | 4 |
| Question for you Greenville folks: How far (miles) is it from Atlanta
to Greensboro, NC?
Mike_who_might_be_there_next_week
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| 1111.13 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI-Kitty-ADA-Metaltronix rack puke | Thu Mar 08 1990 13:12 | 12 |
| Huh ?
You mean Atlanta to Greenville SC ?
It's about 2.5 hours from the airport (if you obey the speed limit (Bahah!).
If you really mean Greensboro, I haven't the feintest...
:)
Come see us dude !
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| 1111.14 | | XOANAN::HEISER | in your face with no disgrace | Thu Mar 08 1990 14:04 | 4 |
| Coop, I did mean Greensboro, NC. I was told it is about 150 miles from
Greenville, SC. From Atlanta, it sounds like a 4-5 hour trip total.
I'll stop by if the trip comes through.
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| 1111.15 | It's a pretty healthy drive | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Fearless | Thu Mar 08 1990 21:47 | 7 |
| Greensboro NC is about 30mi west of Raleigh, NC. By my estimate, it
should take about 4 hours or so to get there from Greenville SC, so
figure probably about 6 or so from Atlanta.
You may not want to drive excessively fast on some of those roads...
Greg (who used to live in NC)
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| 1111.16 | decisions,decisions | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Tue Mar 19 1996 09:06 | 15 |
| I just got the new Zion catalog. Nice! They have a new Ty Tabor
signature model that he used on "Dogman." It's Strat-like with all
single coils. Lists for $2,295! Each one is hand-signed by Ty.
Personally I like the Classic Maple model. Similar to the old
Radicasters. When dealing direct with them, you get 25% off list.
Most of the models come standard with Sperzel Trim-Lok tuners, Kahler
"Steeler" trems with Schaller arms, your choice of pickups: Fralins,
Duncans, or Bardens. Since they are a custom shop, you can change
whatever you like.
I'm having a hard time picking my replacement guitars :-(
Mike
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| 1111.17 | Expensive Strat-copy of holy grail! | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Tue Mar 19 1996 09:31 | 8 |
| Mike, did you see the note I put in the insurance note? There may be
a chance of finding the instruments that were stolen. Try it and
let us know how you make out.
Are you actually considering buying one of these Zion's ? At $2000
I would be thinking real serious about resale value.
Mark
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| 1111.18 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Tue Mar 19 1996 11:45 | 12 |
| I've played one once and thought it was an awesome guitar. Certainly
puts the Ibanez RG550 to shame. With my discount it's more like
$1,500. I'm not so sure my old gear can be found since it's been 3 months
already, but I may try it anyway.
I have to replace an acoustic and 2 electrics as part of the replacement
deal (and get the rest of my money). I'm torn between a Les Paul,
Strat, and the Zion. The Fender Strat would probably be a custom model
anyway with a tapped humbucker at the bridge (like the Zion). I'm not
sure yet how much a Fender Strat like this would be.
Mike
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| 1111.19 | Pet detective. | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Tue Mar 19 1996 11:59 | 16 |
| Mike, buy a Les Paul, and a Strat, and an acoustic. Strats are so
easy to modify, if a tapped pickup is what you want, there is a
bumper crop of em out there. You can also use push/pull pots so
you don't have to add a switch.
As far as finding your old instruments, never give up the chase.
If anyone every trades one of your guitars into a dealer, there
is a chance you might be informed of it's whereabouts. If you find
one, it may lead you to the others. I'd say go for it.
Mark
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| 1111.20 | Zion-to infinity | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | General MIDI | Wed Mar 20 1996 09:33 | 3 |
| But Mark... Phil Keaggy plays a Zion!
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| 1111.21 | Ty Tabor is a different story | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Wed Mar 20 1996 11:34 | 1 |
| His model ain't available anymore so nyah to you!
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| 1111.22 | Inquiring minds and all that | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Wed Mar 20 1996 11:48 | 5 |
| Do the Zion guitars have a transducer built into the bridge for
acoustic tone, as well as regular magnetic pickups for electric
guitar tone?
Mark
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| 1111.23 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Wed Mar 20 1996 13:51 | 3 |
| I'm not sure but I doubt it. You can call them at (910) 852-7603
Mike
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