| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1080.57 | The official riff/lixx/solo help topic | SUBURB::DALLISON | a waffer fin mint ???? | Thu Oct 27 1988 10:13 | 9 |
|
I was listening to "Paradise City" by Guns 'N Roses (killer track)
and the guitarist seems to to be playing some sort of
descending/ascending scale right at the begining of the track.
Out of curiousity, could some one tell me what it is and enter it
?? Perleeese ???
-Tony
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| 1080.58 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | a waffer fin mint ???? | Mon Oct 31 1988 04:41 | 8 |
|
Er...how embarrising...it is not 'Paradise City', it is infact
"Mr Brownstone". Sorry :-)
Now, anybody know ??
Cheers,
-Tony
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| 1080.59 | We've been dancin with Mr. Mixolydian | ERASER::BUCKLEY | RCMP, PMRC - No similarities | Mon Oct 31 1988 10:25 | 19 |
|
Ok, the scale Slush is playin at the beggining of Mr. Brownstone
is an E pentatonic minor scale but he flirts with a major and a
minor 3rd so the scale has a more mixolydianish sound to it.
I don't have me guitar in my hands at the moment, but I'm pretty
sure its this:
E-------------------------------------------O-------------------
B---------------------3-2-O-----------------O-------------------
G-------------------2------3-2-O--------------------------------
D-----O-------------2-----------4-2-O---------------------------
A----2-2-O----------O-----------------2-------------------------
E-3-4-----3-2-O-3-4---------------------3-O---------------------
Paradise city on the other hand is a G major pentatonic scale,
G A B D E
Buck
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| 1080.60 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | a waffer fin mint ???? | Mon Oct 31 1988 11:00 | 17 |
|
Thanx Buck, now I can sound like my favourite guitarist...sigh..;-)
I've change the title of this note, as it seems that we didn't have
a topic to exchange solos, riffs and licks, but here it is!!
So...., there are a couple of riffs that I wouldn't mind knowing,
but I'm too damn lazy to sit down and try and work them out (well,
actually thats not true, I've been trying to suss out the second
riff for a day or so, and am having very little luck).
a) Sweet Child 'O Mine - by GnR's very own Slush
b) Still of the Night - By Whitesnake (riff was played originally
by John Sykes).
Cheers,
-Tony
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| 1080.61 | Sweet Child o Mine | MARKER::BUCKLEY | RCMP, PMRC - No similarities | Mon Oct 31 1988 11:38 | 32 |
|
Sweet Child O Mine:
E----------15--14------------15--14------------15--14-------------
B---15----------------15----------------15----------------15------
G-----14-12--14--14-----14-12--14--14-----14-12--14--14-----14-12-
D-12----------------12----------------14----------------14--------
A-----------------------------------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------------------------------
E-15--14--------------15--14------------15--14-----------15--14---
B-------------15-----------------15---------------15--------------
G---14--14-12---14-12---14--14-12--14-12--14--14----14-12--14--14-
D-----------------------------------------------12----------------
A-----------------------------------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------------------------------
* last time thru
E--12--------12--14-----------------------------------------------
B-------15--------------------------------------------------------
G----14----14--14-------------------------------------------------
D-----------------------------------------------------------------
A-----------------------------------------------------------------
E-----------------------------------------------------------------
For the D major (verse/chor) use the D mixolydian mode (D E F# G
A B C). and for the solo, use E harmonic minor for the first 18
measures (E F# G A B C D#) and the E pentatonic minor for the rest
of the solo (E G A B D)
Buck
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| 1080.62 | Still of the night | MARKER::BUCKLEY | RCMP, PMRC - No similarities | Mon Oct 31 1988 11:49 | 20 |
|
Still of the night:
E-----------------------------------------------------------------
B------------------------------------------------5----------------
G------------------------------------------------4-2--------------
D---4--------------4-------------------------4---2-2--------------
A-2-4----432-----2-4-----232-2---232-2-----------2-O-232-2---232--
E-O-2------------O-2--245---5-52O---5-52O-222-2O-O------5-52O---5-
*2 x's w/pick * 2 x's again
harmonics
E-----------------------------------------------------------------
B-----------------------------------------------------------------
G--------------4-2------------------------------------------------
D----------4---4-2-4----------------------------------------------
A-2------------2-O-4----------------------------------------------
E--52O--222-2O-----2----------------------------------------------
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| 1080.63 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | The still of the night...... | Mon Oct 31 1988 12:26 | 7 |
|
Thanks Buck, I'll play with them tonight.
:-)
Cheers,
-Tony
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| 1080.64 | Attitude | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I feel an election coming up | Tue Nov 01 1988 14:18 | 4 |
| Anybody got any of the Vai licks in the attitude song?
I have the head, but not some of the solos.
Buck
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| 1080.65 | Another EVH clone? | PNO::HEISER | Nobody leaves without playing the Blues! | Tue Nov 01 1988 18:29 | 4 |
| Slight diversion here, is Vai the one with cowboy hat seen playing
for David Lee Roth in some of his videos?
Mike
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| 1080.66 | | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Don't worry, be >>HEAVY<< | Wed Nov 02 1988 01:38 | 5 |
| That's Vai but no EVH clone (IMO). Vai says Eddie is one of his
heros but I think he stands alone with HIS own style.
Scary
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| 1080.67 | IMO VAI>EVH | SUBURB::DALLISON | The still of the night...... | Wed Nov 02 1988 04:35 | 5 |
|
Steve Vai an EVHeadache clone ????? agagaga!!! - no
camparason.
-Tony
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| 1080.68 | An Eddie fan 'till death ! | RAVEN1::JERRYWHITE | Don't worry, be >>HEAVY<< | Wed Nov 02 1988 04:56 | 8 |
| I like 'em both but 4 different reasons. Eddie wrote the book -
Steve read the book ....
.... standing on his head !
Scary
|
| 1080.69 | Transcriptions are available | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Yo! | Wed Nov 02 1988 09:48 | 9 |
| re: .7
Buck,
Transcriptions for "The Attitude Song" have appeared in both
Guitar Player (it was the first "Soundpage") and Guitar for
the Practicing Musician.
db
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| 1080.1 | RULZ FOR LIXX PLEEZ | TRUCKS::LITTEN | | Tue Jan 17 1989 12:17 | 22 |
| To ALL,
May I make a request please ??
To keep the energy and focus high, could we keep to the title topic
as far as possible ?
Try to keep all replies to a new lick offering....
just so I don't break my own rule....
I use this as a finger and alternate picking warm up and repeat on all
6 strings ( it's that old spanish tune that I never remember the
name of....)
Start on top E then Any string...
( play twice )
( 0 0 4 0 7 0 ) 5 0 8 0 7 0 5 0 3 0 1 0
Regards.....Dave
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| 1080.2 | Fast minor run ala Gilbert | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Today I have a dream... | Tue Jan 17 1989 14:19 | 30 |
|
First off, may I add a term here?
wfv = wide finger vibrato (sorry, sometimes its necessary that the
vib. is at least a half step pitch modulation)
Ok, now I wanna share with you a favorite run of mine. I've modified
the harmony just a bit from when I showed it to you Joe Minville, so
PAY ATTENTION! ;^>
Play this example as fast as possible and be make sure you're throwing
off a lot of attitude when you play this, otherwise its won't sound
right. (more ;^>'s)
Em 7th pos (but movable, I'll designate the root, ok):
* = root note
E
B
G
D * 7 7 9 10 9 7 7
A 7 9 10 10 9 7 9 10 10 9 7 9 10 10 9 7 9 10
E 7 8 10
E
B wfv
G -s- 9 11 12 11 12 11 9 12 9
D 7 9 10 12
A
E
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| 1080.3 | Something in a Harmonic Minor . . . | ASHBY::BEFUMO | Yesturday I coodent eavan spell engunear -tooday I are one! | Thu Jan 19 1989 10:51 | 14 |
| Here's a little run based on the A Harmonic minor scale.
Actually, I've been having problems getting the harmonic minor
to sound like anything I can use, and would like to solicit
any useable riffs based on it, along with application notes.
(In keeping with the rules of this note, though, I thought
I should have SOMETHING to offer, though)
E---5-----4------------------------------------------------
B------6-----5---6--------5-------5------------------------
G--------------------7--------5-------7----4---5-----------
D---------------------------------------------------7------
A----------------------------------------------------------
E----------------------------------------------------------
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| 1080.4 | When in doubt, check out the chord scale | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Art Imitates Life! | Thu Jan 19 1989 11:49 | 15 |
| re: -1
To me, harmonic minor is a tricky scale to sound correctly in a minor
context. I usually find that if I stick to the harmonic minor chord
scale, things are fine. If you were playing in A minor, the chords for
that scale would be the following:
A min B dim C aug D min E maj F maj G# dim
1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7
These are built on triads, of course.
C aug is a weird chord for rock, but if you think about it, its like
Ab in first inversion using `rock' fingerings (ie 2 & 3 note clusters).
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| 1080.5 | | WACHU2::HERTZBERG | I big, therefore I dink | Fri Jan 20 1989 10:23 | 24 |
|
re: < Note 1080.0 by TRUCKS::LITTEN >
> E
> B
> G 5 5 7 7 8 8 7 7
> D 6 6 7 7 9 9 7 7
> A 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
> E
Pretty dissonant for Memphis! These chords sound a whole lot better
moved up one string.
Anyway, I'm writing here so I have to enter a lick. This is a nice
major 7th lick... shown here in the key of C.
E 7 10 7
B 5 8 8
G 4 5 9
D 2 5 10 7
A 2 3
E
Marc
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| 1080.6 | brain fade & monster licks | TRUCKS::LITTEN | | Fri Jan 20 1989 15:22 | 64 |
| ref. 1080.5
Thanks Marc.....I must have had brain fade after entering all my
licks and runs, here is what I SHOULD have shown for the tab on
what I called the "memphis" lick (ref 1080.0 ). Sorry ladies and
gents!
E
B 5 5 7 7 8 8 7 7
G 6 6 7 7 9 9 7 7
D 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
A
E
Phew ! with that cleared up, and by my own rules, here is an arp......
E
B
G
D 5 5 7 5 7 9 5
A 5 7 5 7 8 5 7 8 7 8 8
E 8 8
E
B 5 5 6 5 6 8 5
G 5 5 7 5 7 5 7 7
D 7 9 7 9 9
A
E
E 5 5 7 5 7 8
B 6 8 6 8 8
G
D
A
E
OK, go all the way up then all the way back down. It sounds to me
like the run in the 1812 overture, try it and you will know what
I mean !
Before I sign off, I would love to see a few examples of the
following.......
Do you remember the time you visited the local music shop, probably
on a saturday morning, the usual 'muso" clan is there, and the guy
is trying out the latest hot rig....and you hear it....THAT RUN,
probably goes across all the strings and spans 8 frets or more.
You got it down some time ago, and probably use it when tuning up
at gigs, testing out guitars for feel, getting your chops in etc....
Well, just in case I don't get to hear you at the local store and
rush over asking how you did it, share it in this NOTE...please !!
Thanks in advance,
/Dave
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| 1080.7 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | March 30th-Lock up your girls! | Mon Jan 23 1989 12:30 | 30 |
|
I was fiddling with 12 bar blues amd I started fumbling around
with this run. I use it as a warm-up exersice too, but its quite
a cool run.
The notes that are spaced ( eg ---O-O-4-4--- are played with a
'funky/bluesy' feel, whilst the other notes like ---1410-- (ie
NOT spaced) should be played much much faster, with a much
smoother feel. The fast bits need strict alternate picking, but
do what you want with the others.
A|-----------2-2-4-4--5420--------1410-----------2-2-4-4--5420-------1414
E|--O-O-4-4-----------------4104--------O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----
D|-----------2-2-4-4--5420--------1410-----------------------------------
A|--O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----------------2-2-4-4--5420-------1414
E|--------------------------------------O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----
G|-----------1410---------------------------------------------------------
D|--O-O-4-4--------42-----------1410--------------------------------------
A|---------------------O-O-4-4-------42----------2-2-4-4-5-4-2------------
E|---------------------------------------O-O-4-4--------------------------
A|-222-444-666-444-1-O----------------------------------------------------
E|---------------------4-2-O--OO-OO-OO-OO-O--7-7-5-5-3-3-2-2------repeat--
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| 1080.8 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | March 30th-Lock up your girls! | Tue Jan 24 1989 07:57 | 17 |
|
Here's another...
This is the fill that proceds the solo in Malmsteen's
"Rising force". Its quite a good little run, but to
execute it cleanly you should keep your hand arched,
using the tips of your fingers for the pull offs.
p = pull off
p p
E | 8 7 5 p p
B | 8 7 5 p p
G | 7 5 4 p p
D | 7 5 4
A | 7
E |
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| 1080.9 | You too can honk | HOMBAS::CONROY | | Wed Jan 25 1989 16:54 | 21 |
|
Here's a sax line from a Bill Haley and the comets song.
Makes a good guitar riff. You can finger this a lot of different
ways. Hope these numbers are right.
Swing rhythm. slash = slide into note. 3 indicates triplets.
-3-
| |
E---------3--3--5--7----5-7-5------/3--3---3--------------------
B------------------------------6---------6---5------------------
G-------4------------------------7-------------5------/5--/5--/5
D--4-5-------------------------------------------7--5-----------
A---------------------------------------------------------------
E---------------------------------------------------------------
If I can find time to type them in I'll put in a few Johnny Smith
or Herb Ellis lines.
Bob
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| 1080.10 | H E L P - The phantom's trying to get me! | SUBURB::DALLISON | The Kitten has claws | Thu Feb 02 1989 10:43 | 9 |
|
Has anybody got the intro riff to Iron Maiden's "Phantom of the
Opera". Would you believe its the only part of the song I haven't
got down yet !!!! That simple little riff is driving me nuts!!
If so, could you me it please (don't want to get into copyright
trouble). I'd really appreciate it.
-Tony
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| 1080.11 | Nother one.. wish I could do it fast.. | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Thu Mar 02 1989 12:26 | 14 |
|
Nother one I like from God...
PO
e 11-8 ||
b 11 :||
g ||
d
a
e
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| 1080.12 | Dave Clark, notes unsung hero! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I wish it was summertime all year! | Thu Mar 02 1989 14:14 | 15 |
|
> -< Nother one.. wish I could do it fast.. >-
Why don't you try the patented Dave Clark method for optimum speed.
Use the following fingers:
PO
3 1 2 (repeat)
e 11 - 8
b 11
g
Give it a shot
|
| 1080.13 | Gilmour does this a lot... | CAPVAX::ZNAMIEROWSKI | Lying on an eiderdown... | Thu Mar 02 1989 14:49 | 11 |
| Gee, when I pull that particular stunt, I sorta bar the E and the
B with my index (1st?) finger.
___PO__
b/ \a
----------X---------X---------
----------X-------------------
c
a,pull off to b, pick c.
/craig
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| 1080.14 | No Moving Fingers??? | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Thu Mar 02 1989 16:54 | 13 |
| PO
3 1 2 (repeat)
e 11 - 8
b 11
g
Give it a shot
Hey, Buck, are those fingers up there (3 1 2)?? If they are,
do you keep the 11 on b fretted all the time, rather than moving
Mr. ringfinger between the strings?? Doesn't that hurt?? <grin>
|
| 1080.15 | No, it doesn't hurt unless you play it too loud! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I wish it was summertime all year! | Thu Mar 02 1989 17:13 | 17 |
|
RE: -1
Yes, those are fingers, and the only finger that is stationary is
finger 1. Fingers 3 AND 1 move alterativly...it helps keep the notes
staccato..if you held finger #2 its would sustain after picking and
sound messy. Dave Clark uses That fingering I described...and he plays
licks like that really well...I don't feel comfortable personally with
that fingering, but then again I usually don't play licks like that. I
would use my first finger for the 8th fret and either an alternating
3rd or 4th finger for the 11th fret notes. Probably would be the 4th
finger becuase it is stronger on my hand then my 3rd finger is.
Ok, now everyone play fast!
;^)
Buck
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| 1080.16 | | MARKER::BUCKLEY | I wish it was summertime all year! | Thu Mar 02 1989 17:14 | 5 |
|
Oops, error here folks. .15 should read "Fingers 3 AND 2 move
alternatively...it helps keep the notes staccato"
sorry for the typo
|
| 1080.17 | Oh THAT Finger... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Mon Mar 06 1989 15:20 | 12 |
|
OK, Buck, I get 3 and 2 move instead of using 3 to play both
notes... I'll give it a try. Your 4th finger stronger than 3rd
finger.... gift from God or developed???
Steve
|
| 1080.18 | Try this | BUSY::JMINVILLE | She's just a girl, just a girl. | Tue Mar 14 1989 12:31 | 21 |
| If you think about it, you might find that the third finger is quite
often the weakest. Try this exercise:
Place each of your fingers on consecutive frets (e.g. index
on 4th, middle on 5th, ring on 6th, and little on 7th);
Decide which two fingers you want to work on first (let's say
middle and ring fingers);
Now lift your middle finger off the fretboard (but leave all
the others down);
The *instant* you drop your middle finger back to the fret,
pull your ring finger off the fretboard.
Repeat this with all combinations of fingers. Start out slow
and work on building speed. It's a good exercise when you're away
from your guitar too. I found that my third finger was my weakest
too.
joe. (exercise courtesy of wjb ;^)
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| 1080.19 | | ASAHI::COOPER | Computers...All they ever think of is hex... | Tue Mar 14 1989 12:44 | 4 |
| Oh ! I like that one ! It even hurts on my desk !
My pinky is hamburger...
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| 1080.20 | Help... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Mon Mar 20 1989 14:45 | 22 |
|
I'm having a bit of a time with this one! Feels really
uncomfortable sweeping backwards over the last four notes... How
would you folks play them??
e 8
b B 11 8
g 10(12) 10 8
d 10
a 10
e
|_________| These here ones
Clapton uses this one in Key to the Road
Regards,
Steve
|
| 1080.21 | Alternating Strokes | SNFFLS::MADDUX | no title yet blues | Mon Mar 20 1989 18:46 | 25 |
|
<< I'm having a bit of a time with this one! Feels really
<< uncomfortable sweeping backwards over the last four notes... How
<< would you folks play them??
I'd use a standard crosspicking methodology;i.e., use alternate
directions across the strings. This requires some practice,
but in the long run will give great results in clean pickin'.
e 8
b B 11 8
g 10(12) 10 8
d 10
a 10
e
|_________| These here ones
Clapton uses this one in Key to the Road
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| 1080.22 | Playing for Scale.. | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Tue Mar 21 1989 16:30 | 21 |
|
From Motherless Children on Eric's new Crossroads collection.
B R
e 10(12)10 8 B R
b 10 10 12(13)12
g 9 11
d
a
e
I love this guy... when I was a punk kid I used to tell real
guitar players that all I knew was the minor pentatonic scale.
They usually laughed, politely.
Now that I'm middle aged and wiser (but not much better player)
I realize that Clapton has spent 25 years on position one and is
STILL finding stuff he doesn't know about.... Sheesh...
|
| 1080.23 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | a slip of the tongue | Tue Mar 28 1989 08:07 | 13 |
|
Heres one I like...
E||-14-17-14----14--------h--p--h----------------------------------
B||----------17----17-15-14-15-14----14-----p------b-----t----r-----
G||-------------------------------17----17-16-14-16(18)-(21)-16-14-
h = hammer on b = bend note
p = pull off r = release bend
t = Tap note at 19th fret, whilst holding the D string 15th fret, bent
Randy Rhoads fans should recognise this.
|
| 1080.24 | Floyd Muted Sweeps | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Wed Apr 12 1989 12:27 | 48 |
|
I'm really struggling with the following lick from Comfortably
Numb (am I leaving my self open here, or what?): When he enters
the solo he hits a quick stroke with three muted notes and one regular,
I've tried the following two ways:
Way one Way two
e 14 14
b x(11) x(16)
g x(11) x(16)
d x(11) x(16)
a
e
Way one works (the sweep is muted until the f#) but the next
part of the lead requires that I get my but up to bend the f# and
I'm not fast enough to get there....... I can't even get the f#
to sound with way 2.... Is there a "way" that I'm missing???
Later in this solo he does a muted sweep that is even more
difficult (for me at least) than this one where he sweeps three
muted notes to a pull off, like this:
P
---
e 15 14
b x(?) 16 14 etc. etc.
g x(?)
d x(?)
a
e
How the heck is he doing that.. I chose to learn this solo cos
it's really sweet (not like me) and slow (very much like me) but
this little sweep (he only does it 3 times) is driving me nuts!!!
Steve
|
| 1080.25 | Great Tune... | POBOX::KALLEVIGB | Onward through the Fog... | Thu Jun 15 1989 12:32 | 6 |
| Not sure if this is the place but... Help with Progression on BAD
FINGERS "Baby Blue"?
Thnx,
B.J.
|
| 1080.26 | Beer Commercial Blues Lick | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Mon Jul 10 1989 17:26 | 17 |
|
Hey lookit!! A Busch beer commercial lick!!!
e
B B B
b 5-7 5-7 3 5 5-7 3 3 3 5 3 5-6 5-6 5-6 3 10
B ||
g 4-5 2 :|| 2 4 2 4
||
d /11
/
a Slide /
e
|
| 1080.27 | Help..... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Wed Sep 27 1989 14:32 | 79 |
|
OK, I'm really baffled and I'm going to give you guys a chance to
save me the embarassment (and the $15) of a lesson to get my questions
answered... <grin>
I saw this movie this weekend called "Twins" Swartzenager and
DeVito.. hysterical, by the way, I'd recommend it highly.... well
anyway, at one point in the movie the boys are in a bar dancing to a
country pop kind of song, like this:
C F G C F G C G Em....
I'd die for this dance... blah blah blah blah blah blahblahahhha
Em F G
Guess I'd just die for this dance..........
So, I'm cruising along listening to this nice smooth country waltz
obviously in C-maj with that drop to Em confusing things a little, but
not much... and all of a jeezly sudden this guitar player cuts loose
with the following lead, played on a strat, with tons of violin-like
sustain (knocked me right out).....
B* bent and muted right away, very short note
B
e 18(20) 18 15 B*
b 18 16 18(20) P 16 B
g 17(15) 17 18 18(20) 16
d
a
e
H P
e B 18 18(20) 18 16 15 16 15 H Bx4 B R P
b 18(20) 16(18) 18(20) 18 20 18 16
g |
d 4 times
a
e
B
e B R B R 16(18) 15
b 16 16 18 18(20)18 18(20)18 18 16
g 17 17 17
d /
a /
e / Slide down
e B*
b 16 18(20)
g
d
a
e
I suppose there's no accounting for taste, but I love this lick,
what I don't understand is why it sounds so different to me... On the
surface it looks like a postion in the Cm pentatonic scale and pretty
straight forward.... BUT... the chord that sounds like it matches
behind the lick is Ebmaj and the guitarist spends a lot of time on Eb
(16th fret on Mr. B string).. howcum?? Is this really Cm pentatonic or
is it Ebmaj (my guess is Ebmaj) how come it sounds so, heck I don't
know how to describe it, coooool, I guess, over Cmaj. Am I missing
something here????
Steve
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| 1080.28 | BTW, that's Jeff Beck... | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Back to the front | Wed Sep 27 1989 14:55 | 1 |
|
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| 1080.29 | I KNEW I had great taste.... (heh, heh) | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Thu Sep 28 1989 10:49 | 49 |
|
NO KIDDING!!! Shoot I didn't pay enough attention to his face...
Heck I knew I had great taste <grin>.... I also mis-wrote a coupla
notes in the first measure..... here's a correction:
THIS...
B
e 18(20) 18 15 B*
b 18 16 18(20) P 16 B
g 17(15) 17 18 18(20) 16
d
a
e
SHOULD BE.......
B
e 18(20) 18 15 B* B
b 18 16 18(20) P 16 18 18(20) 16
g 17(15) 17
d
a
e
With the last three notes being played on the B string instead of
the G string.
Really... is this tasty or what??
Steve
|
| 1080.70 | | UPWARD::HEISER | refrigerator repair man | Wed Apr 04 1990 14:56 | 10 |
| I'm surprised this topic is so quiet, unless you guys don't need any
help. I'm looking to learn some new stuff.
What are some of the riffs you first learned? (please use the tab
diagrams back a few or just give the chords) It seems everyone learns
"Smoke on the Water" as one of their first. What are some other cool
sounding riffs that you first learned?
Thanks,
Mike
|
| 1080.71 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | The return of the bald avenger | Thu Apr 05 1990 07:08 | 26 |
|
Hmm....
Well Mike, when I was starting off I was really into playing some crunchy rock
rhythm stuff, so I learnt this bit from Ozzys Tribute album. Its the intro to
"Steal away the night" and has everything you'd ever want from a b*lls to the
wall rock riff. I used to (and still do) love playing this.
Medium rock feel with attitude 8*)
E||-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
B||-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
G||-----9-----7-----9-----7-----9---/////-------5-----3--------------4----------
D||-----9-----7-----9-----7-----9--/////---5-5--5-----3-------4/3/4--4----------
A||----------------------------------------3-3----------------4/3/4--2----------
E||-O-O---7-9---9-7---7-9---9-7-------------------3-5---5-3---2/1/2-----2-3-VV--
M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M *
M = Medium palm mute
/// = chord slide
* = Artificial harmonic
VV = Wide finger vibrato
Have fun 8^)
-Tony
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| 1080.72 | | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Thu Apr 05 1990 11:38 | 31 |
|
I've been liking this one in a major key....
Usually I'd do the slide like this say in Gmaj:
e
b 13/ 15
g 14/ 16
d
a
e
But lately I've been bending them instead, kind of sounds like a
car horn:
B
e ___
b 13 15
g 14 16
d
a
I do the same thing with minor pentatonic scales and following with
Chuck Berry's minor third to third hammer on.
Steve
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| 1080.73 | | DEC25::COSTIGANB | Bought a Beat-Up Six-String... | Fri May 11 1990 20:53 | 10 |
|
If anybody out there knows the "Crossroads" riff, I'd be *extremely*
grateful if you could post it in here.
I caught Clapton in concert a couple weeks back, and I can't get that
tune out of my head. Maybe I can play it into submission. 8^)
Thanks,
Brian
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| 1080.74 | | ICS::BUCKLEY | You better drop the gun... | Sun May 13 1990 20:54 | 15 |
| -1
I don't know the tune per se, but my ears tell me its something like
this, no?:
A7
e-----------------------------------------
b------------------H--PO------------------
g------2--o--2----o-2-o-------------------
d----------------------------------------- (repeat)
a--o---------------------3 (slight bend)--
e-----------------------------------------
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm really not sure)
B.
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| 1080.30 | Feedback question | MILKWY::JMINVILLE | | Thu May 17 1990 14:17 | 10 |
| With my Telecaster, Fender Twin, and Rat pedal, how can I get
an E chord to ring out an A in feedback?
I don't want to have to punch the sh*t out of the volume.
I don't want it to be "real" distorted sounding either.
can it be done?
joe.
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| 1080.31 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Thu May 17 1990 15:00 | 4 |
| Tap a third harmonic ??
jc (Who isn't sure he understands the question...and certainly doesn't know the
answer... ;)
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| 1080.32 | | MILKWY::JMINVILLE | | Thu May 17 1990 15:20 | 4 |
| Nah. It's got to be true feedback. There must be a way to pull
that frequency of harmonic overtone out of the amp...?
joe.
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| 1080.33 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Little Chops of Horror | Fri May 18 1990 10:10 | 1 |
| Buy a graphic EQ pedal and stamp on it at the right time ?
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| 1080.34 | C'mon who are the feedback experts? | MILKWY::JMINVILLE | | Fri May 18 1990 10:18 | 20 |
| I already have a graphic. I guess I should ask the question:
Does anybody in this file use deliberate, controlled feedback?
I'm sure there are some who do. Is it the type of thing where
everybody's setup is gonna be different and you just have to
experiment?
What I'm trying to get at (specifically) is this:
In the song "Metropolis" by The Church, there's a "solo" of
sorts where the guitar hits this open-sounding E chord and
then a couple of seconds later this feedback starts up that
sounds like an A played on the G string second fret (kind of
a suspended 4th type of effect). I want to play this, but
haven't had much luck so far. Maybe the single coils on the
Tele just can't hack it? I've tried cranking the Twin, but
I don't want the excessive volume. I've tried dorking with
the gain and distortion levels on the Rat, but haven't had
much success that way either. What's a mother to do?
joe.
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| 1080.35 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Whip ME Beat ME Tie me to a tree! | Fri May 18 1990 10:47 | 9 |
| Isn't there a BOSS pedal that has a feedback circuit in it....?
I think it's the OS-2 or something (that has to be the wrong pedal)
when you want the feedback to start just stomp on the box and it
starts off the feedback from what ever chord/note you are playing...
I'll go check which pedal it is
Bob
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| 1080.36 | One Way To Do It | AQUA::ROST | I'll do anything for money | Fri May 18 1990 10:55 | 7 |
|
Frank Zappa, who likes to play on the edge of total feedback quite a
bit, had a parametric EQ installed into some of his guitars and he
would tune the EQ so that whatever hall he was playing in, he could
boost the right band to get the guitar to start feeding back...
Brian
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| 1080.37 | | NEEPS::IRVINE | Whip ME Beat ME Tie me to a tree! | Fri May 18 1990 11:13 | 5 |
| The Boss Pedal I was thinking of was the DF-2 Distortion Feedback
Generator....
Bob
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| 1080.38 | one solution ... | GOOROO::CLARK | Just say NO to Sterling Downs! | Fri May 18 1990 11:23 | 8 |
| maybe they overdubbed it.
How about playing the E chord on the top 4 strings (DGBE) then hitting
a harmonic at the 12th fret of the A string and using a lot of
compression to get the A note to sound as loud as the rest of the
notes?
-Dave
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| 1080.39 | keep 'em coming | MILKWY::JMINVILLE | | Fri May 18 1990 12:28 | 9 |
| RE: hitting an harmonic...
It doesn't sound like any note(s) is/are struck after the initial
E. Maybe I just need a Marshall stack ;^)
Anyway, I'll keep trying...
Thanks for the suggestions.
joe.
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| 1080.40 | 1. Crank up the midrange | SMURF::BENNETT | We are Anta's Selves | Fri May 18 1990 14:22 | 13 |
|
Then:
Play your E chord
and:
slide the Ab from the E chord up to an A (this is on the G string)
while *gently* pulling off the A string and leave the A string open.
If there's enough air moving in the room you'll get yer feedback.
A little bit of fingergrease on that upper A will probably help.
It's a lot easier than it sounds from my description.
ccb
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| 1080.41 | | TCC::COOPER | MIDI rack puke | Fri May 18 1990 14:43 | 3 |
| I second the opinion:
Midrange and MEGA overdrive !
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| 1080.42 | Two thoughts, of limited utility | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | This is your brain on Unix | Mon May 21 1990 14:41 | 8 |
| Two thoughts:
1) If you're gonna do it with EQ, you'd be much better off with
a parametric than a graphic
2) You might try doing this with an artificial harmonic of some
sort (you might have to bend it because there's no strong
harmonic for A in the E major chord).
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| 1080.75 | I know that tune . . . | HPSRAD::JWILLIAMS | | Thu Jun 14 1990 16:54 | 6 |
| -1
Generally close enough: No hammers or pulls and bend a half tone.
Optionally, hit the A major chord accidently on purpose.
John.
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| 1080.43 | 3rds and 7s | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | Greee Veee King | Fri Nov 30 1990 20:26 | 29 |
|
Take a look at this neat flat 7s and 3rds inversion, I can't
believe I'm just finding out about this stuff!!!
In the Key of A, I think!!
I IV V
e
b 8 7 9
g 6 5 7
d 5 4 6
a
e
Lookit how the 2 flat 7s and the 3rd in the I invert into 3 thirds
and a flat 7 over the IV and the V! This blows my mind!!! What's the
proper way to refer to those notes in the IV and V as they relate to
the key of A??? I'm calling them 3rds and flat 7s, but that would be
as they relate to the keys of D and E, right???
Gree Vee... you should hear this one behind a blues 12 bar.. they go..
huh??
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| 1080.44 | Bruins | LEDDEV::CALABRIA | type dirty to me | Mon Dec 03 1990 08:11 | 5 |
|
Anyone know the old ELP tune the Big Bad Boston Bruins used to use as
their theme song. sure wish they'd bring it back...
-sj
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| 1080.45 | | DPE::STARR | SRV......I can't believe you're gone.... | Mon Dec 03 1990 10:39 | 6 |
| > Anyone know the old ELP tune the Big Bad Boston Bruins used to use as
> their theme song. sure wish they'd bring it back...
The Nutcracker Suite.
alan
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| 1080.46 | | LEDDEV::CALABRIA | type dirty to me | Mon Dec 03 1990 14:14 | 3 |
| thanks Alan, do ya know any of it ?
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| 1080.47 | maybe ask in COMMUSIC, where there are more keyboardists | DPE::STARR | SRV......I can't believe you're gone.... | Mon Dec 03 1990 14:20 | 8 |
| > thanks Alan, do ya know any of it ?
Naw, sorry....
Always did like that as the Bruins theme - much better than the one they have
now!
alan
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| 1080.48 | Of course, the elevated B3'll be hard to recreate | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Mon Dec 03 1990 15:05 | 8 |
| regarding the nutcracker suite, I believe the band Emerson, Lake
and Palmer used to do their own version of this tune. You might
want to grab an old ELP album with the nutcracker suite on it
and learn it by ear. I can't think of anything overly challenging
about it that would make it tough to learn by ear.
Mark
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| 1080.49 | | PNO::HEISER | send an enemy a smoke alarm for Xmas! | Mon Dec 03 1990 15:55 | 4 |
| Is this the song they used on TV38 back in the late '70s? That's the
last time I heard it and I'm trying to place it.
Mike
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| 1080.50 | | DPE::STARR | SRV......I can't believe you're gone.... | Mon Dec 03 1990 19:08 | 6 |
| > Is this the song they used on TV38 back in the late '70s? That's the
> last time I heard it and I'm trying to place it.
Yup! That's the song that I'll forever have associated with the Bruins....
alan
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| 1080.51 | Easy to figure out, probably a "investment" to learn to play | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Dave | Tue Dec 04 1990 11:50 | 7 |
| Actually, the ELP version is (I believe) called the "Nutrocker" and it
is from the "Pictures At An Exhibition" album.
It probably isn't, as Mark suggested, hard to figure out, although I
doubt it's all that easy to learn to play (at least accurately).
Mark must be an awesome keyboardist.
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| 1080.52 | I do an awesome Chopsticks | MILKWY::JACQUES | Vintage taste, reissue budget | Tue Dec 04 1990 12:51 | 11 |
| Actually, I'm not a keyboard player at all. It just seems like the
chord changes are fairly straight forward, and it doesn't seem like
it would be all that tough to learn by ear. No obscure jazz chords,
etc.
Besides, what law states that it can only be played on a keyboard ??
Another TV theme that reminds me of this tune is the one that Benny
hill uses for all of his famous chase scenes.
Mark
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| 1080.53 | You hum it..I'll play it | TRUCKS::LITTEN | | Wed Dec 05 1990 11:54 | 18 |
|
> Another TV theme that reminds me of this tune is the one that Benny
> hill uses for all of his famous chase scenes.
Mark,
I think this is called "yackety Yack" or Yackety Sax" or something
similar !
Our ex singer did impressions of Benny Hill (thats my musical "street cred"
gone down the toilet). For my part I had to play the bloody tune for years !
Ok, get this note back on track someone !
Dave
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| 1080.54 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Something bitchin' this way comes | Sun Dec 23 1990 12:47 | 30 |
|
Back on track....
Here's a cool blues lick using A Pentatonic (with the flattened 4th)
that *has* to be played al la Malmsteen :-
VVV = Very wide finger vibrato
E|---BU------17-------------------------------------------17----------
B|-20(22)VVV----20-19-17-19----17-------17-19----17-19-20----20-19-17-
G|--------------------------20----19-20-------20----------------------
D|--------------------------------------------------------------------
A|--------------------------------------------------------------------
E|--------------------------------------------------------------------
E|--------17-19-20-19-17----------------17-19-20-19-17----------------
B|--19-20----------------20-19-17-19-20----------------20-19-17-------
G|--------------------------------------------------------------19-17-
D|--------------------------------------------------------------------
A|--------------------------------------------------------------------
E|--------------------------------------------------------------------
E|---------------------------------------------------
B|---------------------------------------------------
G|-----17--------------------------------------------
D|--19----19-17----17-----------BU-------------------
A|--------------19----19-18-17-15(16)----------------
E|------------------------------------17VVVVVVV-----
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| 1080.55 | -1 Dude...doncha mean da flatted 5th/Augmented 4th? | ICS::BUCKLEY | and he shall reign for ever and ever | Mon Dec 24 1990 02:37 | 1 |
|
|
| 1080.56 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Something bitchin' this way comes | Mon Dec 24 1990 05:01 | 1 |
| yeah, what he said!
|
| 1080.77 | Harmonic Help! | MORO::SHALLOW_RO | Opportunity is Knocking | Tue Sep 10 1991 14:55 | 12 |
|
I've been trying to figure out the harmonics to VH's "Poundcake",
with extremely frustrating results. Has anyone figured this out yet?
If so, I would be grateful if you could post the notes, frets touched,
or any other method of musical communication you can think of.
If this topic should be in another file, please feel free to move it,
Mr Moderator.
Thanks in advance!
Bob aKa JPR
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| 1080.78 | wasn't this in GFTPM last month? | EZ2GET::STEWART | Balanced on the biggest wave | Tue Sep 10 1991 16:38 | 1 |
|
|
| 1080.79 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | I don't like what I see here | Wed Sep 11 1991 03:55 | 32 |
|
Poundcake harmonics :-
First time through, the harmonics are :-
D|-----4-----
A|---4-------
E|-3-----4-3-
Second time round :-
D|---5-------
A|-----5-4---
E|-4-------3-
Third time round ;-
D|-----5------
A|---5---5----
E|-4-------4--
Fourth time :-
E|--------12----
B|-----7-----12-
G|---5----------
D|-5------------
Enjoy...
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| 1080.80 | Help needed with Jimi... | EVOAI2::SECU_LDV | Stratocastifiant! hein l�o? | Fri Jul 22 1994 13:37 | 9 |
| Hi,
I play guitar since 4 years with a Stratocaster US, and I'm a fan of
Hendrix.
If someone know the intros, riffs or just the chords (in tab) of Red house,
Purple haze or Manic depression, please, send me them because I have my
own versions but they're not exact (I heard and I play)
Sorry for my bad english...
-Fred-
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| 1080.81 | shapely... | FABSIX::K_LUCHT | Orbital | Sat Jan 18 1997 05:45 | 14 |
| 1080.82 | | KDX200::COOPER | There is no TRY - DO or DO NOT! | Sat Jan 18 1997 08:38 | 6
|