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1077.1 | Some tips | FLOWER::JASNIEWSKI | | Tue Jan 17 1989 08:42 | 37 |
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I'm just going to guess at the answer to "what features" and
arrange them in decending order of importance.
1. Looks. No matter how it plays or what hardware it's made
of, if it looks like a real dog, NO ONE will want to be seen on
stage with it.
2. Feel. Well, it can look great and have the best of hardware,
but if it doesnt "feel" right to the player, s/he wont be interested.
This is a subjective balance between several physical attributes
that are percieved in certain ways by most players. Really good
"luthiers" are that way beceause they know what the players like.
3. Quality of workmanship and hardware. So, now it looks great,
super paint, the weight distribution, neck scale length and width
are right, but *why* did they use these bullsh*t tuning machines?
And the cord keeps popping out the jack hole, cause they used this
cheap 1/4" jack instead of a "Switchcraft" 1/4" jack. If I buy it,
it's more work for me to make it "right"...Hmmmmmm, maybe not?
4. Sound. The above "three" might be right on, but if you cant
get at least three distinct "sounds" from paramater changes on the axe
itself, most players will believe that this could limit their
flexability. For example, it MUST produce the fat, humbucker sound
of a Les Paul, it also MUST product the thin, single coil center
position sound of a Strat, it MUST produce the out of phase, lead
rythm single coil pickup sound of a Strat, etc et al to be competitive.
Ideally, you should present every possible phasing for every possible
combination of split coil pickups for each of three pickup positions.
But dont over do it, as other manufacturere have taken a fall trying
to put "too much" electronics into the guitar itself. It's well
known that most players would prefer not to even deal with a battery
requirement for their axe. Good Luck!
Joe Jas
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1077.2 | | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Today I have a dream... | Tue Jan 17 1989 08:59 | 5 |
| I would suggest the guy reading up a bit on the physics on sound before
he starts this venture. Its just not enough to be a great wood
craftsman to make a good guitar. You gotta take into account things
like scale, density, mass, and the harmonic structure before it will
sound right.
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1077.3 | Build for pleasure, then.... | TRUCKS::LITTEN | | Tue Jan 17 1989 12:57 | 47 |
| Andy,
I have never bought a "custom" built guitar myself, but here
is my brief opinion...
Why home made ? I see two markets
1. High end, specials, wierds, built to the customers precise
requirements.
Attention to detail, and quality well above the average Fender.
There are no ground rules or magic "must haves".
For this range of customer you must be very experienced, and
build based on reputation. A new name in this area will only
get repeat orders based on recommendations from previous customers.
Custom built is often harder to re-sell, so you have got to be
twice as good as the off-the-shelves, to sell at half the price!
2. Low end. Probably where your friend should start. Try for best
quality at low price. The challenge is competing with the well
built taiwan 120 pound Fender copies. Since he is into Art and
styling, perhaps your friend could find his first customer among
the "just starting out Heavy Metalist guitarists". These guys
are not known for subtle styling, and will give your friend the
opportunity to stretch his creative talents!!
I can't help on the UK kits, but I have a book currently loaned
to a friend, called something like " BUILD YOUR OWN GUITAR". It
gives two examples in detail and is a good guide on what skills
and experience are required. Are there any mindreaders out there
who know which one I am talking about ? Get in touch with me Andy,
and I will get the details. I have a schematic on Gibson active
guitar electronics which may give your friend some ideas ( it is
probably copyrighted so careful how you go...)
If I had to put a No.1 part of the guitar that you have got to get
100% right, its the guitar neck ( and we all know how many
options/variations there are of them ).
Sorry I can't be more helpful, don't discourage your friend, If
he keeps his mind-set of "I can build a better guitar than that"
it will only be a matter of time before he refines his knowledge
and skills, and hits the right "formula".
Regards/ Dave
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1077.4 | High end | RAINBO::WEBER | | Tue Jan 17 1989 13:39 | 22 |
| All of the luthiers I know are dedicated craftsmen who have devoted
their whole lives to building guitars. It is a vocation that pays
little, requires long hours, and takes much more than just good woodworking
and electronics skills.
They all build high end guitars, because it is impossible for a
small shop to compete at the low end with factory made guitars.
Take hardware for example--good hardware to build a strat, costs
$75-100 retail, and the case another $35. Wood will run another
fifty for nothing special. Factories pay much less, and are more
efficient in labor use, as well as have a large investment in capital
equipment.
Unless you offer something special, no one wants an off-brand guitar.
The makers I know have established reputations for top-quality work,
and have customers who are willing to pay for it. Despite that,
they aren't making much money.
re:-1 Sounds like Donald Brosnac's book. Roger Siminoff also has
one with a similar title.
Danny W.
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1077.5 | Find a market first | TYFYS::MOLLER | Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7 | Tue Jan 17 1989 15:08 | 25 |
| I build custom guitars & I don't charge an arm & a leg for them. I
mostly build things that are very hard to find, such as left handed
instruments (you can get Left handed necks from Stuart MacDonalds),
and double necked guitars. There is substantially less competition
in these areas, especially if the person who ends up with the guitar
doesn't have to go broke buying it. I'll admit, I've not built anything
in the last year and a half. Not because the demand isnt there, but
because I've been trying to build & utilize a MIDI oriented studio &
been playing a lot with my Duo.
If your friend wants to get into the business, I'd suggest that he
wander around to the music shops & find out what people are asking
for & the dealers can't seem to get (left handed Strat style guitars
seem to fit this description). Then your freind should try to actually
build a sample. If he has no guitar experiance, it is unlikely that
the guitar will come out right, or saleable.
I build average cost guitars because I don't like to work with very
expensive wood (Nothing worse than damageing a $200.00 piece of
Brazilian rosewood), and I don't care to put too much exotic stuff into
my work. I build them more as a hobby & want to keep it that way.
Send me some Email is you have any other direct questions.
Jens
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1077.6 | A contact for info | TRUCKS::REEVE | Nicht neues im Westen What a Remarque | Wed Jan 18 1989 12:33 | 4 |
| Another person to talk to is Steve Rowley, who had his own guitar
business for several years. He would be able to give a clearer picture
of the U.K. (well, maybe more localized) situation. I've found him
to be very approachable. He's in Solent Business Park, near Fareham.
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1077.7 | | VLNVAX::ALECLAIRE | | Sat Jan 21 1989 19:34 | 2 |
| It would help if you made the body of the ax shaped like something out
of Penthouse Magazine. I think alot of people would buy that.
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