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1075.1 | Use your tongue | ZYDECO::MCABEE | Time to change my personal name | Fri Jan 13 1989 10:52 | 10 |
| Are you planting the thumb as if to play a note? You might try
using the side or base of the thumb. Sometimes it's more comvenient
to damp with the left hand.
Damping is one of those things that give a little payoff for a *lot*
of work. Most audiences probably don't notice the difference, but
it's really satisfying to get it right.
Bob
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1075.2 | | PVAX::CONROY | | Tue Jan 17 1989 10:50 | 11 |
| Usually I don't do exercises for this but work on it if it comes
up in a piece. What works for me is to be very sure of my right
hand fingering and practice those sections very slowly making
sure I'm using the same right hand fingering every time until
it's automatic. It's mostly a matter of putting the thumb back
on a string while playing another note or chord.
I'll look at home for some sections of music that you'd have to
do this in.
Bob
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1075.3 | USING RIGHT HAND FINGER TO DAMPEN | COMET::BEYZAVI | | Wed Jan 18 1989 18:35 | 7 |
| I use the same finger on the right hand that played the note
to dampen it. Also I recommand using high tention strings for treble
and low tention for base. That makes melody line more clear and
base more supportive, either one could be dampened by the above
technique.
HOSSEIN BEYZAVI
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1075.4 | | HOMBAS::CONROY | | Mon Jan 23 1989 14:53 | 12 |
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Here's some of those examples I promised:
Giuliani - Variations on a theme of Handel, Variation 4.
Allegro from sonata opus 15.
Bach - Prelude from prelude, fugue and allegro, has nice bass line.
Sor - Study #8, study #10, study #15
These all require a lot of damping, mostly on the bass strings.
Bob
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1075.5 | Bends... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Fri Jan 27 1989 13:59 | 13 |
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I know this note is about dampening... but it's the latest "help"
note.. and ummmm..... I need some. Starting to work on Clapton's
Double Trouble (just got Crossroads <grin>).. and he does some two
note bends that I continually miss... are there any tricks to bending
up to the right pitch??? I'm using Markley extra lights now, would
a heavier string help??? It's easier for me (now... real novice)
to slide up to the note and then slide back down, but I'm worried
that this "crutch" will land me in deep later on (when I can play
this thing)....
Any other Clapton help would be appreciated!
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1075.6 | | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Mr. Big! | Fri Jan 27 1989 14:15 | 23 |
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RE: -1
Start by first attempting the bends at all times. Blowing them off
will do you no good, you should just go for it.
Bending is done when the left have can move its fingers independantly
of each other (ie one or more are stable while another finger moves to
bend the note) -- try some left hand finger excercizes to help with
dexterity.
NOTE: The most important, and probably the most overlooked aspect of
bending is bending IN TUNE. Rock player got bad press with the jazzers
in part because they weren't bending in tune. I'd suggest you take
extra time when learning to bend to make sure you bend to the correct
pitch. In the long run it will be second nature and you'll sound much
better quicker. If you have a guitar with a floating tremolo system,
its harder to bend in tune. You have to rest your hand on the bridge
to stable the tremolo movement while executing the bend.
All in all, slow and steady wins the race. I remember when I was
learning to bend, its was a nightmare, but if you just stick with it,
and keep intonation in mind, you'll do just fine.
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1075.7 | Slow down | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Yo! | Fri Jan 27 1989 17:58 | 39 |
| > NOTE: The most important, and probably the most overlooked aspect of
> bending is bending IN TUNE.
Amen, and its one of the "dead giveaways" that you're watching someone
mediocre. It's one of the things that make you sound like a
teenage garage band.
> Slow and steady wins the race
This is doubly good advice. I'll also throw in another cliche:
"you learn to walk before you can learn to run".
If you just can't get it, then you are practicing it wrong.
This is one of the most common things I've observed in rock players.
If you practice at a speed that causes you to miss it more than
25%-40% of the time, you're PLAYING IT TOO FAST! It doesn't matter
if you have to play it PAINFULLY slow. THAT is what's gonna correct
the problems. It's the ONLY way I've ever had ANY success at learning
things.
If when you practice, you get it wrong most of the time, what you are
"practicing" is HOW TO PLAY IT WRONG. That's what you're fingers are
learning.
You can always IMMEDIATELY identify people who practice too fast:
they sound sloppy (bends are off, picking timing is bad, etc.).
BTW, a great bend isn't just one that ends up at the right pitch.
Bends are easy to do "OK", and almost tougher than anything else
to do well. When I record a solo, I often do several punches
just trying to get ONE damn bend "right" (with the feel that
I want).
Another (thankfully "shorter") piece of advice is to sing the note
to yourself. I know what sometimes happens with me is that I lose
my "tuning reference" (the internal thing that tells me where the
pitch is) when you bend and I've found that singing helps me
maintain it. I have no idea if that works for other people though.
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1075.8 | Slower Works.... | DNEAST::GREVE_STEVE | If all else fails, take a nap... | Sun Jan 29 1989 12:27 | 19 |
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Thanks a lot, and I'm not kidding! I'm beginning to realize
that in my quest for speed (slow as a turtle, now) I've been practicing
way to fast... slowing down has already paid benefits in my first
practice session this weekend. I've also begun working on getting
intervals right in my head and that's been helpful... humming the
note in my head does seem to help me get there more accurately!
Nother thing I thought that I'd share is: I received my (FREE)
middle pot from fender this weekend and as I was replacing it was
surprised to discover that they are soldered directly to the amp
board (guess i shouldn't have been.. Fender has been keeping pace
with technology just like everybody else)... still not too difficult
a procedure.. just be sure to have a good solder removal tool on
hand (or you might choose not to dub around with the knobs in the
beginning, like I did <grin>).
Steve
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1075.9 | Repetition | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Yo! | Tue Jan 31 1989 14:27 | 41 |
| Another important way to "fix" problems: Repetition
I almost NEVER practice a tune from start to finish.
This angered my parents when I was a kid, when I was in
college it angered my room-mates, when I got my first
job, it angered my neighbors, and today it angers my
girlfriend.
I work on sections; often very SMALL sections.
Whenever you sorta run through a piece you will find there are
certain small sections that give you problems for any number
of reasons (odd fingerings, tough picking pattern, etc.).
You will NOT solve these problems by running through the whole
piece hundreds of times, or at least not in my experience.
The most productive use of your time (very rarely do you hear people
talking about productivity in practice even though it is so important)
is to not waste time playing things you can already play and spend
the time working on things you can't play. Right?
So that implies that you want to try and just do those parts that you
have trouble with which is usually a phrase here and there.
The best way I know of to do this is to invent a repetition exercise
that "stresses" the problem. That figure out what it is that you
can't do, and then arrange a small section (if it's more than 2
bars, it's probably too long) and just keep playing it OVER and OVER
again, gradually increasing the speed such that you can still play
it without making mistakes.
This is one of the few methods of practicing where you can witness
demonstrable MINUTE-BY-MINUTE improvement.
When I say "arrange a small section", I guess it could have better
been described as "invent a repeating riff" that has little other
than the problem you're working on.
db
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