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1073.4 | Old/new | BUSY::JMINVILLE | The only solution, isn't it amazing? | Mon Dec 05 1988 12:14 | 7 |
| I don't know about new Ampegs, but the old ones were the b*lls!!
Lots of top acts used these amps in the late 60's/early 70's.
A friend of mine has a V4 w/4X12" cab. and it cranks big time.
It's got great tones: from clean to crunch. But, it's heavy
and LOUD!
joe.
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1073.5 | | WEFXEM::COTE | Sing with the clams, knave! | Mon Dec 05 1988 12:45 | 9 |
| I'll second the motion on the older Ampegs. I've had my B25-B for
15 years and, had I entered this note Friday, could say it's never
given me one iota of grief...
Saturday night however, it made a couple (4-5) popping type noises
it's never made before. Grrrrrrr.... Kept running though, dunno
what to think. Doncha just hate intermittant problems???
Edd
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1073.6 | Ampeg | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Revolution calling | Mon Dec 05 1988 13:41 | 4 |
| I'll second that. A friend of mine has an Ampeg V4-B which he uses
for his bass and it sounds great.
Greg
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1073.7 | | DECWIN::KMCDONOUGH | | Tue Dec 06 1988 09:35 | 12 |
|
I've seen plenty of used Vt22's for ~$250 in the want ads. Nice amp. I
have also played with bass players who swear by the V4-B; punchy, loud,
and dependable.
A long time ago I played through a friends SVT. As I remember, it had
two cabs with 8 10's in each. I would have made ears bleed if I had
turned that sucker up enough to make it distort. And heavy! It did
look nice on stage, though. 8-)
Kevin
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1073.8 | Ampeg = Crate ???? | AQUA::ROST | Hum-dum-dinger from Dingersville | Tue Dec 06 1988 10:25 | 25 |
|
All new Ampegs are made in the USA by St. Louis Music, the folks
who gave us Crate, also made in USA, probably at the same factory!!!
The solid state stuff looks like the old stuff on the outside, but
inside the construction uses the same modern techniques everyone
else uses. The tube stuff in the guitar line, I don't know about,
but the SVT is all that's left in the bass line and although they
supposedly build them just as they did in the sixties, the list
price for head and cab is $2700 !!!!!!!!!
I've heard the solid-state bass stuff and the heads are nice and
quiet, decent amount of power, good patching facilities. I was
unimpressed with the stock (i.e. not EV) speaker cabs but that's
probably less of a concern for guitarists.
I did call SLM for a catalog and some information on dealers. They
were not interested in talking to me on the phone. I did explain
I couldn't buy an Ampeg amp if I didn't know where to find one.
Pretty sorry excuse for customer relations.
Overall, I don't hink you can really judge the new Ampeg by the
old company. Only time will tell about how good the new amps are.
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1073.9 | Ampegs also make great boat anchors | ANT::JACQUES | | Wed Dec 21 1988 09:07 | 33 |
| I used to have an Ampeg B22X which I used for guitar, although it
was suitable for keyboards (perhaps more suitable for keyboards
than guitar). This was a 2x12 combo, but is was much bigger than a
Twin Reverb, and even heavier than a Twin. The closed-back design
and the optional Altec Lansing speakers made this amp crank extremely
loud with literally no distortion. This amp was constructed more
ruggedly than any other amp I've seen. They even went as far as
use an XLR jack to connect the power amp output to the speaker
cabinet. I sold it and bought a Silver-faced twin reverb around 1978.
It just didn't have the tone for guitar, compared to the Twins all
my friends were using.
I played in a band with a guy that used an ancient Ampeg Gemini
(I or II, can recall) for playing harmonica along with an electro-
static mic. He used to get a really ballsy distortion sound out
of it, but only used it for practice sessions. This was one of the
early Ampegs that used that spiral-textured vinyl, and the crome-
plated chassis, bat-handled knobs, etc. before they went to the
newer look around the mid-sixties (brushed aluminum, blue graphics,
flat toggle switches)
I read a review of a new Ampeg solid-state guitar amp. They
highly praised this amp, including the distortion. What strikes
me as strange is that Ampeg used Bipolar transistors in the
power amp section, rather than MOSFET. MOSFETs have a cross
conductance curve very similar to tubes, and most of the major
manufacturers are using MOSFETs.
Hearing is believing.
Mark Jacques
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1073.1 | Probably cheaper to replace | ROLL::BEFUMO | Life is like a beanstalk...isn't it? | Fri Jan 13 1989 07:27 | 3 |
| While those were real nice amps, I very much suspect that for what
it would cost to fix he could find another one in really nice shape
& keep the old one for spare parts.
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1073.2 | Time For Some Brain Surgery | BERING::ROST | Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny | Fri Jan 13 1989 09:47 | 7 |
|
Sounds like he should remove the amp chassis, add a jackplate and
use it for an extension speaker cabinet. You could pick up an
old black-face Bassman or Bandmaster head for $150 or less to drive
it which probably would be cheaper than getting the amp fixed.
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1073.3 | No, a VT-40 ISN'T a Digital terminal product... | DNEAST::RAMSEY_CHUCK | We have met the enemy and he is us. | Thu Oct 04 1990 14:11 | 31 |
| A departing friend gave me an Ampeg VT-40; it was noisy (made a
gawdawful crackling noise after "power chords") and missing a speaker
(though there was a LARGE 10 ohm resistor in its place). I have
replaced the missing speaker, completely retubed the amp, and have
since found the source of the nasty crackling -- cold solder joint in
the cathode circuit of the bright channel preamp stage.
All that done, I'm not sure that the amp sounds the way it should.
Seems to me it should be cleaner; I think it distorts at too low a
volume, but I never heard one fresh outta the box back when Magnavox
owned Ampeg, so I have no point of reference. Any of you other, uh,
mature players out there have relevant experience with this beast?
The tubes are mostly eastern european in origin (some are TNTs) with
the exception of the 7027A power amp tubes -- they're a matched set of
Groove Tubes, H7 rated. The GTs came with a little flyer that talks
about biasing your amp, but the VT-40 has no bias adjustment per se;
adjustment could only be accomplished by replacing resistors.
Anybody have technical documentation on this thing? All I have to go by
is the schematic that Ampeg pasted to the inside of the back panel --
and at that, the schematic shows a couple of diodes in the PA plate
circuit that are there in the actual circuit. I remember the repair
tech at Friendly River (Portland, ME) said that those diodes were
removed from later models, 'cause they created more trouble than they
were worth.
He'p me! Goot Gawd! 8^0
--Chuck
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1073.10 | The Mysterious History of Ampeg | AQUA::ROST | Dennis Dunaway Fan Club | Fri Nov 09 1990 14:16 | 23 |
| I just got ahold of an older (mid-late sixties is my guess) Ampeg
Gemini 20 amp. Actually a pretty cute piece, like a Fender Vibroverb,
40-50 watts into 2-10s.
I notice this is the only note on Ampegs (other than brief references
in the vintage amp note). Any ideas about why the Ampeg amp line isn't
as well documented and known as Fenders?
The obvious answer is that noone plays 'em, but that's not really true.
Lots of SVTs and B15s still out there thumping away and more than a few
other amps like VT22 combos and V4 stacks are out there. Yet, the
older style amps, the ones with the mirrored aluminum control panels,
arrow head knobs and weird tube configurations, are pretty much
neglected and unknown. In fact, almost every time I see one, it's
another model that I had never heard about. Then there's the story of
the Ampeg instruments, like the Baby Bass electric upright and those
weird bass guitars with scroll peghaeds and f-holes on both the front
and *back* of the body....
Does anyone know about any books or articles on older Ampegs, like
those on Fenders or Marshalls?
Brian
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1073.11 | My Ampeg weighed more than me !! | MILKWY::JACQUES | then you die | Mon Nov 12 1990 11:13 | 39 |
| I believe there is some talk of Ampeg in Aston Pittman's "The tube amp
book".
I played in a band with a guy the used a little Ampeg Gemini I for
blues harp. It was only about a 20w amp, and with the taxi-dispatch
mic it really sounded gritty, but was perfect for harp. This was one
of the older models with a chrome-plated chassis, swirl covering, and
bat-handle knobs. This amp was great for rehearsals, but was way too
small for gigs, and didn't mic well, so he switched to a differant
rig for gigs. I would put this little amp in the same league as a
Fender Champ.
I used to own an Ampeg B22X which I bought brand new in 1971. This
amp was a large combo with 2 12" Altec Lansing speakers. It was built
like a truck and played extremely loud. I was always satisfied with
this amp, until I started playing in a blues band with some experienced
players that pointed out to me that the amp did not have a nice warm
tone like most Fender amps. I ended up trading the amp into a music
store around 1978. My Ampeg was the newer style Ampeg amp with the
brushed-aluminum trim, rocker switches for tone boost, and the square
Ampeg insignia. The 2 12" speakers were in a cabinet that was sealed
from the amplifier chassis, but it was still a combo, and quite bulky
at that. I suppose this amp would work well for keyboards or other
applications where a clean loud sound is needed, but for electric
guitar, it just didn't cut it.
I also owned an Ampeg "Dan Armstrong" clear plexiglass guitar. This
was clearly one of the worst guitars I've owned. The bridge was a
nightmare. Intonation usually lasted about 10 seconds before the
bridge moved. I had a guitar shop rout a large slot in the guitar and
had a bass-ass bridge put in so it would stay in tune. Even with this
mod, it still wasn't a very good guitar. The pickups were extremely
sterile sounding, and there really was no differance between the
various pickups that popped in and out of this beast. When I think
how much I paid for this guitar, and the nice instruments I could
have bought at that time, I could kick myself, but hey I was 16 years
old.
Mark
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1073.12 | | OTOO01::ELLACOTT | non_teenage_mutant_ninja_bassist | Fri Nov 16 1990 16:35 | 17 |
| Hey!! I've got an SVT and it's the best amp I've owned yet, and the
price of $500 CDN used can't be beat. I spent another $300 to totally
retube it just to be safe. To me it blows away the Trace Elliot/Boogies/
Peaveys/or what_have_you. The only down side is that it is a PIG to
move, but it doesn't get moved often, yet( a new band is in the
works..where ever that is). My best buddy and favorite guitar player
uses a V4 into an old Marshall stack bottom, vintage 1970 or there
abouts. It can be loader that any one really ever needs to be and gives
a great clean tone, for dirt he uses parametric EQ (homebrewed) with a
Boss distortion and compresor/sustainer. Hopefully I'll pick up a V2
head this weekend for under $150 in working order.
Ampeg knew how to build one tuff amp don't know how good the new
ones are....
FJE
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1073.13 | My B25-B is 18 years old... | DCSVAX::COTE | Can't touch this... | Sun Nov 18 1990 09:28 | 7 |
| Ampegs (at least used to) come with a lifetime guarantee against
everything except tubes and speakers.
They were also kind enuf to supply a schematic with each unit, a
practice I wish ALL electronics manufacturers would adopt.
Edd
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1073.14 | Help in dating SVT head | SWAM3::SEIDMAN_ER | Sadam, This SCUD's for You | Tue Feb 12 1991 14:19 | 9 |
| I've got this OLD SVT amp, the likes I haven't seen before. It uses
power output tubes that have a lead that attaches to the top of each
tube. It's in extremely battered shape cosmetically but, the sound is
incredible. As, such there is no information on the back panel as
usually seen. Can anyone date this beast?
Regards,
Eric
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1073.15 | oldie but a goodie | COMET::LAWYER | | Tue Feb 12 1991 17:13 | 25 |
| re: .14
Check the numbers on the power output tubes ( the tubes with
leads attached at the top ). They will probably be 6146B/8298A's.
If so, then the amp must be circa 1970. I bought an SVT new
in January 1970 that used these tubes for the final. Later
on ( I don't know how much later ) the design was changed to
use 6550's.
I still have the schematic, owner's manual, and some promotional
flyers from this time as well as a price list, if any of that
might help.
I also have the specs of the 6146B/8298A tube somewhere, if
interested.
Yeah, awesome sound. Does your amp have the hearing-loss
warning printed on the back? ;v)
BTW, it's a 4-ohm out, unless you use the 'EXT. SPEAKER' jack
as well; then it's 2 ohms.
Rock on-
Kent
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1073.16 | Thanks for info could use more | SWAM3::SEIDMAN_ER | Sadam, This SCUD's for You | Tue Feb 12 1991 18:44 | 18 |
| Re: -1. Thanks,
Definitely interested in the schematic and owners manual. If it's not
too much trouble to make a copy. I picked this amp up used in very bad
shape many years ago. It was missing knobs, no, there's no warning on
the back about hearing loss although there should be. Actually there
is no writing on the back at all. It is all missing. No serial #,
output or input labeling, nothing. It's so ugly it's beautiful and so
is the sound. I bought 2 new SVT cabs and ran it with them for
awhile. Then switched to 2 smaller Cerwin Vegas for a little more
portability (folded horn w/1-18 and 1 front firing 10"). Used to blow
this beast up all the time. I'd play a low A and could watch this
little fire run all through the cicuit. Than I got smart and turned it
down. It's been running for years now with no probs. Actually added a
second amp, Marshall 100w bass w/2 4-15" cabs. The cabs sucked,
vibrated very loud at certain frequencys. Ended up with the Marshall
head through a Ampeg V4B cab - very good sound. Enough for now, I
think I hear someone calling me :^}.
|
1073.17 | OLD SVT, cont. | JUPITR::TASHJIAN | | Wed Feb 13 1991 03:31 | 15 |
| I also have the complete service manual for the older SVT. PLEASE
*DON'T* retube it with 6550s a la the GT book. Mouser has the older
tubes around, and the differance between the old/new(er) units are
like night and day. Years ago, the Stones used to have 16 old
SVT heads and each had a large 4-12" (Altec) cabinet, the bass the
10"s. Rod & the Faces used the same set up, even the same exact
pieces, as Ampeg used to rent them out. What a sound. I have a old
SVT with 2 4-12" V4 cabs with Altecs. Words cannot describe the sound
it has.
Yes, the older Ampegs were something else. The new ones, made by
Crate/St. Louis Music can't touch them.
Jay Tashjian
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1073.18 | Wyman did sound great! | SWAM3::SEIDMAN_ER | Sadam, This SCUD's for You | Wed Feb 13 1991 15:22 | 9 |
| re: -.1
I had seen the Stones many years ago. Wyman's bass did sound great!
Live, his playing really carried the music, something that didn't
really come across on their records. It left me very impressed.
btw: don't worry, NO plans on retubing, never crossed my mind.
Regards
|
1073.19 | | OTOO01::ELLACOTT | SVT Addict | Tue Feb 19 1991 18:16 | 6 |
| re:-.2
What's so special about those tubes vs the 6550, should I convert
my SVT so it can use those??????
FJE
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1073.20 | | JUPITR::TASHJIAN | | Wed Feb 20 1991 04:03 | 25 |
| The older tubes were broadcast, H/D units, with a voltage cap on top
of them. They cannot really be reverted from 6550's. Find a old
head, and re-tube. OR, use KT90s instead of the 6550s, with just a
little bias adjustment. Over 400 watts RMS (CLEAN!) is produced.
oddly, the 1st new SVTs with 6550's just had socket changes to
use 6550's. Then, transformer & resistor changes followed.
I found KT90s to be almost as good sounding as the older tubes,
and alot tighter. For guitar, with reduced bias almost to class-A1,
NOTHING touches this amp.
Magnavox really did proud with this amp, and the circuit is still
owned by them, SLM "is allowed" to make them.
SVTs are still my fav-rave all around amp. &, since ya can still
buy them cheap used (& needing tubes, like all older ampegs) they are
still great bargins.
I still have alot of neat-o Ampeg stuff, like Yearly stockholder
reports, etc. If you want one, e-mail me for details. They
are free while they last.
Jay Tashjian
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1073.21 | procedure? | OTOA01::ELLACOTT | SVT Addict | Thu Feb 21 1991 18:35 | 11 |
| Can you explain the details of the bias adjustment with the KT90's in
the SVT. I have the one for 6550's, on the amp and the schematic. How
is the set up different? Will these tubes (with the extra power)
degrade the life expectancy of my o/p xformer?
BTW I will be in the Boston area for training the week of the 11th of
March, any way we could get together, looking for tubes, ideas info
etc.
FJE
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1073.22 | | JUPITR::TASHJIAN | | Fri Feb 22 1991 03:12 | 5 |
| Send me a SASE & I'll send ya a detailed KT90 rebias for the SVT. Or,
e-mail with details & I'll be glad ta meet with ya.
Jay
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1073.23 | ampeg's current address... | SMOGGY::TURNER | | Wed Apr 17 1991 14:37 | 7 |
| AMPEG
1400 Ferguson Street
St. Louis, MO 63133
(current address 4/91)
|
1073.24 | | FREEBE::REAUME | getting MEANer by the day | Fri Apr 19 1991 11:37 | 6 |
|
Expect some wild stuff out of Ampeg as far as guitar amps goes-
Hot Rodder Lee Jackson is working with them now!!! (ex Metaltronix)
-B()()M-
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1073.25 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | THE RATTLER is *huge*!!! | Tue Nov 12 1991 11:10 | 11 |
| > Expect some wild stuff out of Ampeg as far as guitar amps goes-
>Hot Rodder Lee Jackson is working with them now!!! (ex Metaltronix)
I *finally* saw this head at the Guitar Center in Dallas, TX.
The layout is VERY similar to a Metaltronix M1000, but the package
is not nearly as UGLY! I played thru one (thru M-word cabs), and it
sounded like an M1000. I asked the dude if they were as unreliable,
and he delined comment.
Buck, who may buy one if they blow out alao REXX/KH in a year or two
|
1073.26 | Whats the difference?? | CSCOAC::JOHNSON_ROB | | Tue Feb 18 1992 11:56 | 7 |
| Saw two VT60 Tri-Ax tube with Celestion. One had black face the other
was crome plate with different covering. Does anyone no what the
difference is? Thinking of getting one if the price is right.
Thanks,
RJ
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1073.27 | | FREEBE::REAUME | KH/REXX SnoB | Wed Feb 19 1992 13:16 | 8 |
| I don't think there is any difference other than cosmetics, I have
seen both models as well. I'd be willing to bet that you could get a
great deal on THESE Ampeg tube amps because right now they are pushing
the Lee Jackson designed VL series (read that as modified Metaltronix).
Ampeg effectively has been enjoying their new lease on life since
being bought up by SLM, which also produces Crate amps.
-BooM-
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1073.28 | Ampeg B1 info sought | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | Gonna boogie my scruples away | Fri Jun 05 1992 12:51 | 10 |
| Does anyone have one of, or have information on, the "new" Ampeg B1 rack
mount bass preamp/amp? 150w single rack space unit, two channels, bypassable
power amp section so you can use it as a preamp only, and a few other
goodies. List price is $650(!) and a local shop is selling them for $525.
I'd like to hear from someone who has actually played one (or better yet,
owns one).
Thanks in advance,
-- Sam
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1073.29 | SHHHHHHHHHHH | MIMS::JOHNSON_ROB | | Thu Sep 03 1992 09:13 | 12 |
| HELP!!
Got an Ampeg VT60, tube amp, makes an terible sound on the clean
chanell. Sounds like "SHHHHHHHHHHH....", you know when you tell
someone to be quite, except real loud. Switch to one of the other
chanells kinda goes away. Turn down the volume and it's not as loud,
but need the volume to play out. Any ideas what may be the problem or
possible fixes?
Thanks,
RJ
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1073.30 | ex | MARX::SAKELARIS | | Thu Sep 03 1992 09:46 | 10 |
| My guess would be a tube in the preamp section. At least that's where
I'd start by swapping preamp tubes around to see if I can change the
symptoms to reveal other clues. Next I'd get either a set of new tubes
for a shotgun fix, or for tube sets like 12AX7's buy one and swap out
one at a time and isolate the noisey tube.
This is not to say that tubes are the culprit eitgher, just a place to
start. The odds are pretty good however that a tube or two will do it.
"sakman"
|
1073.31 | Try this | LEDS::ORSI | Stimpy's Magic Nose Goblins | Thu Sep 03 1992 10:37 | 15 |
|
The amp should have 4-7025 pre-amp tubes, 1-12AU7 driver
tube and 2-6L6 power tubes. My guess is that the 1st or 2nd
stage 7025 pre-amp tube for the clean channel is the problem.
I think it may be oscillating. I don't know which is which
without a schematic. Try this, number the 7025 tubes 1-4 with
a marker, power the amp down, swap the #1 7025 with the #2
7025, note any difference, if none, power down and change them
back. Then swap the #3 with #4, check it, etc. You can ignore
the 12AU7 the 6L6's for now. It's highly unlikely that they are
the culprit.
Hope this helps
Neal
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1073.32 | Why not try the "tapping" method? | EARRTH::ABATELLI | Who knew? | Thu Sep 03 1992 11:00 | 15 |
| Have you tried "lightly" tapping the preamp tubes with a pencil or pen?
Sometimes that will aid you in finding the bad one (if it's microphonic
that is). If a tube is microphonic it'll make a nasty sound while the
amp is in run mode. Set your volume around 2 or 3 (fairly low) and make
sure you're not in standby mode. Gently (and I mean gently) tap the
preamp tubes one at a time and listen for noise from the speaker. The
amp must be in clean mode also, otherwise if the gain is high enough
(dirty channel) all the tubes may sound bad, so make sure you're in
clean mode.
This *may* help isolate the bad tube... then maybe not, but it is another
avenue to try.
Good luck,
Fred
|
1073.33 | | BUSY::VMESITE | | Fri Sep 04 1992 06:48 | 5 |
| It may also be any cap attached to the preamp tubes. This would cause
noise, which turns into a bad, noisy tube.
Jay
|
1073.35 | New or used? | NWACES::HICKERNELL | I'll see it when I believe it. | Mon Dec 14 1992 10:50 | 8 |
| Is this a new amp? I'm not familiar with too many Ampeg model numbers,
but if it's used make sure the tubes are still available; Ampeg was
famous for putting uncommon tubes in their amps, many of which are
at least hard to find these days. If it's a new Ampeg, I dunno, it's
not the same company any more. The old Ampegs were solid, reliable and
often heavy amps.
Dave
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1073.36 | Good price, btw | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Mon Dec 14 1992 13:27 | 13 |
| That sounds like the new(er) Lee Jackson designed Ampeg (I think all
the VT series are). If so, I played through one awhile back and was
fairly impressed, but not totally blown away. Some people say this is
the same design as the old Metaltronix M1000, which did blow me away
(at the time).
I imagine that if I spent some time with it, I'd be really happy owning
one. It's got a nice tone and a lot of gain in that mode. It seemed a
little thin sounding and a little buzzy, but perhaps in getting used to
it I'd like it.
Greg
|
1073.38 | | DECWIN::KMCDONOUGH | Set Kids/Nosick | Mon Dec 14 1992 13:48 | 7 |
|
I thought a 6CA7 was an EL-34 with a different name? That's a common
tube....
Kevin
|
1073.39 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Mon Dec 14 1992 15:05 | 10 |
| Yeah, a 6CA7 is just the American version of the European EL-34, *very*
common. If you order an EL-34 from Mesa-Boogie, you'll get a 6CA7.
Why so many? I guess that design uses different tubes for each preamp
channel, unlike many designs. I'd be willing to bet that the high gain
channel has at least 4 12AX7 preamp tubes in it, maybe 5. I think the
Soldano/Yamaha (T50/T100) design has 5 preamp tubes in it's high gain
channel (not absolutely sure).
Greg
|
1073.40 | '89 Ampeg reference guide | MIMS::JOHNSON_ROB | | Mon Dec 14 1992 17:49 | 11 |
| I have an Ampeg reference guide (6/89) that list a VT60 & VT120 don't
see a VT220. The tubes are probably Ampeg Hot Rods. The owner's guide
says (as the previous note stated) EL34 (6CA7) can be used instead of
6L6GC's.
There's alot of knowledge in these here notes, don't know why I bother
with the books.
Later,
RJ
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1073.41 | | FREEBE::REAUME | perfectly<==>connected | Mon Dec 14 1992 20:06 | 9 |
|
The VT-220 is an older model, well before Lee Jackson designed the
VL series. I'm fairly certain the VT-220 was a V4 head (100 watt tube
chassis) mated to a 2 X 12 combo cab. The V4 made its name with
numerous Rolling Stones world tours from the late 60's to the late
70's. They sounded very good when cranked! Quite sedate at less than
60% though.
-B{}{}M-
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1073.42 | | LEDS::ORSI | The Croco-Stimpy..HAPPY HAPPY!..JOY JOY! | Tue Dec 15 1992 06:04 | 12 |
|
>The VT-220 is an older model, well before Lee Jackson designed the
>VL series. I'm fairly certain the VT-220 was a V4 head (100 watt tube
>chassis) mated to a 2 X 12 combo cab. The V4 made its name with
It's a VT-22. It's the "twin" version of the V4. I owned one
for a short period of time many years ago. Totally awful amp.
I hated it. I got it as part of a trade deal and sold it off
for the $$.
Neal
|
1073.43 | 22 != 220 | TECRUS::ROST | I fret less these days | Tue Dec 15 1992 06:23 | 6 |
| Neal's right. The VT22 was way before channel switching, master
volumes, etc.
The amp for those who think Twins are too light.
Brian
|
1073.44 | VT22 needs more speakers. | GUCCI::GNOVELLO | Bob Balugalugalugalugaluga | Tue Dec 15 1992 09:56 | 10 |
|
The amp is too powerful for only 2 speakers.
In the mid 70s, I bought a V4 head with *two* V2 bottoms.
Now that was a great sounding rig.
Guy
|
1073.45 | | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Tue Dec 15 1992 10:43 | 16 |
| > The VT-220 is an older model, well before Lee Jackson designed the
> VL series. I'm fairly certain the VT-220 was a V4 head (100 watt tube
> chassis) mated to a 2 X 12 combo cab. The V4 made its name with
> numerous Rolling Stones world tours from the late 60's to the late
> 70's. They sounded very good when cranked! Quite sedate at less than
> 60% though.
This doesn't really make sense, since he said the one he saw had three
switchable preamp channels. That reeks of the Lee Jackson design, not
a V4...
I saw a band called Soul Asylum about a week ago and the lead guitarist
was playing a V4. He had a great sound!
Greg
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1073.46 | more | EMMFG::LAYTON | | Wed Dec 16 1992 11:28 | 9 |
| I campaigned an Ampeg V2 (separate head and cab) for many years. This
was a 60 watt amp on a 4 x 12 cab. Nice, cuz you could crank up
without overpowering the rest of the group, yet still push serious air.
I owned it 10+ years and never retubed.
Oh yeah, the head weighed 70 -ish lbs, and the bottom was well over
100. What a beast.
Carl
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1073.47 | Heavy, but very well built! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Big cheese, MAKE me! | Wed Dec 16 1992 12:15 | 6 |
| Oh yeah, I used to have an old V4 4x12 cabinet and it was extremely
heavy. It was also the best built guitar cabinet I've ever seen. I
wish I'd kept it now, but I got rid of it a couple of years ago in a
fit of frivolity...
Greg
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1073.48 | Heavy no way.. Try one of these.. | OTOOA::ELLACOTT | pancake maverick | Fri Dec 18 1992 12:25 | 16 |
| Re -.1
Extremely heavy!!!! Not as bad as an SVT. And not bad enough to
keep someone from walking off with my guitar player's head, ... and 71
Marshall 4x12, two guitars, pedals, 3 vcrs...Well you get the picture.
He had his place broken into, but the consolation is that he gets to
really go shopping this Christmas.
In the meantime he's using my V2 head and has his tone back. The
Jackson designed Ampegs are the VL series (the insurance co is buying
him a VL1002, and he's hopin its clean side will be close to the V4)
PS Mr Morse used Ampeg V4s heavily with The Dregs.
FJE
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1073.49 | It's More Than an Ampeg... | CARTUN::BDONOVAN | | Fri Dec 18 1992 15:09 | 14 |
|
Tom Scholz used a Ampeg V-4 head, as well as a Marshall head, in the
recording of the first Boston album.
It's old news now, but he was apparently one of the first people
to wire in an EQ *between* the preamp and poweramp stages of
a guitar amp. I remember reading something about him not
"minding trashing the Ampeg" if the experiment went wrong.
Wouldn't it be great if he got rid of the Rockman stuff and
went back to Marshalls and Ampegs for the next Boston album,
which he swears is going to be a reality?
Brian
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1073.50 | Ampeg VH-140C | POBOX::PATLA | Elvis Sells DECpc's at Digital! | Fri Mar 11 1994 07:17 | 25 |
|
Well GTS set in a few months ago and I set out on an excursion for a
new amp. I zeroed in on the Marshall Valvestate 8280 80 Watt Stereo
Chorus amp. Brought it home, boom the reverb mechanics made noise.
Got a second one from the store, boom the reverb mechanics made noise
and the Pre-Amp made a wonderful geiger counter noise. After having it
in the shop four weeks, I kept checking status (were waiting for parts
sir) but no amp. Finally a tech called me and said Marshall said they
had no transistors, Korg had no transistors, tell the guy he should
just return the amp we had problems with those....
Well back to the store with my $900.00 investment I owned for 5 weeks and
played thru 1/2 hour.
Brought it back and tried some amps till I found the Ampeg VH-140C
Stereo 70 Watts a channel @8ohms 90 Watts a channel @4ohms, Chorus,
Seperate Reverb for Channel A & B, Two Channel, A (Dirty) B (Clean)
XLR outs, Line Out, Mono and Stereo Outs, Pre-Amp and Effects Loops.
2 X 12 Speakers
Extremely happy with the range of tones and the proice $649.00 out the
door, Absolutely ZERO buyers remorse and just a ton of fun. I'm looking
forward to being a new Ampeg owner.
Pat
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1073.51 | re: VH-140C | NWACES::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish | Fri Mar 11 1994 08:23 | 3 |
| Tube or SS? And the real question is... what does it weigh? %^)
Dave
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1073.52 | Very Loud To Boot | POBOX::PATLA | Elvis Sells DECpc's at Digital! | Fri Mar 11 1994 10:22 | 3 |
| SS and 68 Pounds with four casters (cheap they keep falling out).
Very cool I like it...
|
1073.53 | | LEDS::BURATI | Kiss my monkey | Fri Mar 11 1994 10:34 | 1 |
| You have to boot it? (sorry)
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1073.54 | I'd buy one.... | POBOX::SMITHJ | Me? Buy a guitar??!! | Fri Apr 01 1994 18:48 | 17 |
| ...and glove it -- we're knitting a whole outfit for Mr. Patmeister's
new Ampeg baby. What a beautiful - L O U D - amp! Am looking forward
to dragging my Twin over so we can do sonic reconstruction of Mr. P's
studio space. Actually, just getting ready for doing some light
strumming at a quiet, little local spot, Juicy Lucy's.
The Ampeg: super looks, solid construction, flexible, great tone (and
volume - as mentioned earlier), excellent overdrive and reverb, and
SWEET chorus. Nice work, good buy Patrick!
:> jds
p.s. The Marshall 8280 is no longer listed in my current Musician's
Friend -- wonder WHY??
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1073.55 | ISOVENT mini-product review | MSDOA::BELLAMY | Ain't this boogie a mess? | Mon May 16 1994 12:49 | 22 |
| I had the chance to play through a new Ampeg ISOVENT bass speaker
cabinet this weekend. It was being driven with a Harkte 3500 head,
and I was playing a friends Warwick bass. What a sound! The thing
sounded so huge and musical, it's definately near the top of the
list of possible new aquisitions. It's so small that I just couldn't
believe it was so loud and clean. They have two 15" drivers facing
each other and driven out of phase. It makes a thunderous low end.
There are two 10" that are angled up to project higher, and there is
a "high frequency device" (tweeter?), between them.
Has anyone else had a chance to use one of these? I couldn't play
my own bass through it (BTW: The Warwick bass is really nice too!),
and the only other bass amp there that even came close was a big
Trace Elliot stack. Many more dollars and much bigger/heavier.
The possibility of being able to carry my bass in a gig-bag backpack
style while pushing the whole amp into a gig on a hand truck in one
trip is very attractive. It seemed that this little rig would be good
for almost any medium size venue, and could cause structural damage in
a small club.
Theo
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1073.56 | | RICKS::CALCAGNI | I Got You Babe (Slight Return) | Mon May 16 1994 12:50 | 3 |
| Theo, what are the dimensions and weight of this beast?
/rick
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1073.57 | | MSDOA::BELLAMY | Ain't this boogie a mess? | Mon May 16 1994 13:04 | 14 |
| Rick ...
I don't know about the weight, but the size is:
17" deep
32" high
24" wide
Handles 600 watts, with seperate inputs for low and high freq (the
Hartke matched it well). It has a high freq switch for plus or minus
6db on the highs. I think it has 3 inch casters too.
I don't know what the list price is, but the local outlet quoted
the ISOVENT and the Hartke 3500 at about $1500 for the set.
|
1073.58 | | TECRUS::ROST | From the dance hall to hell | Mon May 16 1994 14:10 | 8 |
| The 1/1/93 Ampeg price list has the SVT50DL Isovent cabinet listed as:
2-15", 2-10", horn with level selector, 600 watts handling, 4 ohms, 3"
casters, $1000 list.
Weight is 1-7/8 Twins 8^)
Walt Hull
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1073.59 | Looking for an SVT? | TRLIAN::HICKERNELL | Good rhythms to bad rubbish. | Mon Jun 06 1994 12:57 | 6 |
| The Music Workshop in Salem, NH (603-893-1544), has a used SVT on
consignment there: head plus 8x10 cab, cosmetically well worn, both
for $495. Standard disclaimer. I didn't try it out, and no, I didn't
try to lift it.
D-Dave
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1073.60 | V4 Tubes? | NOTAPC::HARPER | | Tue Aug 09 1994 09:19 | 10 |
| A friend has a V4 Ampeg and is going to sell it as he is worried that
he will not be able to find tubes for it when they go. It has the
original tubes in it and is over 10 yrs old. The amp sounds great,
especially with his new SRV Strat with gold trim and Texas special
pickups.
Can anyone help with tube info? availability or cross reference
numbers?
Mark
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1073.61 | | FREEBE::REAUME | my 2 vices - GTS and coasters | Tue Aug 09 1994 09:24 | 7 |
|
I believe Ampeg was using 7027A tubes at that time and one of
the manufacturers was GE (which no longer makes tubes). Your best bet
may be checking with Groove Tubes or checking into a HAM fest.
-B{}{}M-
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1073.62 | | LEDS::ORSI | Cuz I *FELT* like it...OK? | Tue Aug 09 1994 12:12 | 8 |
| Unfortunately, the 7027 power tubes (4) is no longer made, and the
12DW7 preamp tube (1) is outrageously expensive. There is hope, however,
because conversion to the 6550 or EL34 power tubes, and a $5 12AX7 preamp
tube is available. The 6550 sounds more like the 7027 than does the EL34,
but costs twice that of the EL34.
Neal
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1073.63 | 6550's x 4=new life | NOTAPC::HARPER | | Tue Aug 09 1994 12:39 | 5 |
| Are both 6550s and EL34s available as replacements? Is there any circuit
modification required? and last but not least, where might I find
such an animal?
Mark
|
1073.64 | | GOES11::HOUSE | How could I have been so blind? | Tue Aug 09 1994 12:46 | 4 |
| Both 6550 and EL34 tubes are readily available these days. Can't help
ya with the electronics part though.
Greg
|
1073.65 | | LEDS::ORSI | Cuz I *FELT* like it...OK? | Tue Aug 09 1994 12:59 | 11 |
| > Are both 6550s and EL34s available as replacements? Is there any circuit
> modification required? and last but not least, where might I find
> such an animal?
Both are redily available, and both require minor circuit modification.
The screen resistors and a bias circuit resistor need to be changed to
accomodate the new tubes. I have all the parts to do the job, except for
the 6550's. I have EL34's however.
Neal
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1073.67 | | MPGS::MARKEY | Llamas are larger than frogs | Tue Feb 14 1995 10:50 | 8 |
| Ampeg still makes a fine piece of equipment. The new SVT heads are
excellent. There's really nothing negative I can say about them
if you're going for that sound. I've been getting Trace Elliot
gear lately because I'm getting it at cost or free through a
friend's endorsement deal, but if it weren't for that, I'd probably
be taking a hard look at the SVT II myself...
-b
|