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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

996.0. "Gibson ES-340" by RICKS::CALCAGNI () Tue Nov 29 1988 11:31

    Can someone please give me some information about the Gibson ES-340?
    It appears to be very similar to an ES-335 with a trapeze style
    tailpiece, and there's an additional switch next to the pickup
    selector whose function I haven't determined (perhaps a coil cutter?).
    "American Guitars" says that they were manufactured between 1969
    and 1973, but gives no other information.  I'm interested in the
    function of the mystery switch, how these guitars compare otherwise
    to a standard 335, and any other interesting tidbits re the history
    of this model.  Thanks in advance
    
    /rick
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996.1DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDEveryday I got the bluesTue Nov 29 1988 12:006
    Isn't the 340 the stereo version of the 335? If I'm right the switch
    determined the "stereo" mix between thefront and back pickups...or
    something like that...great blues guitar if you can stand the size
    (which I can't)
    
    dbii
996.2Here's the scoopMOSAIC::WEBERTue Nov 29 1988 12:3312
    Rick:
    
    The Gibson ES-340 was a 335 with a birch body, rather than maple.
    Electronics were slightly different: a mixer replaced the function
    of the normal toggle switch, so the pickups could be blended more
    easily. The toggle had normal, out of phase, and standby (no output)
    positions. The other volume control became a master volume.
    
    The price was about the same as a 335. It came in Walnut or Blonde
    and was not very popular. It was not available in stereo .
    
    Danny W
996.3For That Matter...AQUA::ROSTHum-dum-dinger from DingersvilleTue Nov 29 1988 13:344
    
    How about an ES-350....looked like a 335 but had a fat body????
    
    
996.4Not quite...MOSAIC::WEBERTue Nov 29 1988 14:037
    Re: .3
    
    You're talking about an ES-150. The 350 was a single cutaway, 17"
    archtop. The 150 was a 16"x 3" double cutaway that did look like
    a large 335.
    
    Danny W
996.5Answers to Questions you didn't askBOOKLT::WIEGLERTue Nov 29 1988 15:213
    I believe that the 335, 340, 350, etc designations were the original
    list prices of the guitar when Gibson introduced them.  The ES stands
    for Electric Spanish guitar.
996.6For good reasonRAINBO::WEBERTue Nov 29 1988 15:4210
    Re: .5
    
    While some Gibsons were named after their prices (ES-175, Super
    400), this was not true of examples you gave. The 340 was introduced
    at $600, for example, and the original 335,345,355 series had a
    price ratio of 150% between the cheapest and most expensive.
    
    Gibson's only constant is inconsistancy. 
    
    Danny W
996.7RICKS::CALCAGNITue Nov 29 1988 17:168
    re .2
    
    I'm still a bit confused.  From what you say, what looks like the
    normal pickup selector switch controlled normal, phase, standby.
    The one I saw had an additional two position toggle switch; is this
    a standard feature or somebody's hack?
    
    /rick
996.8Might be a modRAINBO::WEBERWed Nov 30 1988 08:4116
    re:-.1
    
    The stock version had controls that looked like a 335's--only the
    functions were different.  A common mod is to replace the mixer
    with a toggle switch.
    
    BTW, to avoid further confusion, note that Gibson used the 150 name
    on two different guitars--the original ES-150 ("Charlie Christian")
    was a non-cut, carved-top guitar. The 70's ES-150TD was a double
    cutaway plywood guitar.
    
    Similarly, the original ES-350 was a full-depth guitar, while the
    ES-350T was a thin-line hollow body that was essentially a lower
    priced Byrdland.
    
    Danny W.
996.9..US only?TRUCKS::JANSEN_JFri Dec 02 1988 08:194
    ...Never come across this one in the UK.
    was it a US only model?
    Regards
    Jeff Jansen
996.10Not likelyRAINBO::WEBERFri Dec 02 1988 09:096
    Unlike Rickenbacker, Gibson never produced any US only or Europe
    only models. Since the 340 is rather obscure, it is possible
    you just never heard of it. I wouldn't be surprised if Gibson's
    British distributor never imported any.
    
    Danny W
996.11335 w/coil cutRAINBO::WEBERTue Dec 06 1988 10:298
    Rick:
    
    In the early '80's, Gibson produced some ES-335's with a coil-cut
    switch. These had a toggle on the upper bout, treble side, in addition
    to the standard toggle location. Is it possible that the guitar
    you saw was one of these?
    
    Danny W
996.12RICKS::CALCAGNITue Dec 06 1988 17:374
    negative.  The serial number, orange label, no volute, etc. put it into
    late sixties; the label even said ES-340 I believe.
    
    /rick
996.13Sure seems like a 340RAINBO::WEBERWed Dec 07 1988 08:5616
    The we'd have to assume it was modified.
    
    One reason for its lack of popularity was the inability to do a
    quick pickup change, so I think many of these had the mixer deleted
    and replaced by a toggle, and one of the tone controls converted
    to a volume control. You then had something similar to ES-335 wiring
    with a phase switch and master tone.
    
    I personally don't like birch as a guitar wood. Frankly, most of
    the semi's I like are all maple, including the neck, despite the
    previous reply that claimed that mahogany necks sound better. I
    think the increased sustain and cutting power that maple provides
    is more important in a semi than the somewhat sweeter sound from mohogany
    or birch. I suspect many players who tried a 340 agreed.
    
    Danny W