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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

969.0. "Song not THAT familiar says jury" by FPTVX1::KINNEY (Casual Observer) Wed Nov 09 1988 10:46

    I know I read about this in one of the music related notes file
    but I can't find it now.
    
    
    John Fogerty's "Old Man Down the Road" isn't plagiarism, a jury
    in San Francisco has ruled. Deliberating less than 6 hours, the
    six member US district court panel cleared Fogerty of the copywrite
    infringement claim by Fantasy Records. It had accused the singer
    of copying the melody from one of his own Crededance Clearwater
    Revival songs, the 1970 "Run Through the Jungle". That song, the lead
    single from Fogerty's comeback Centerfield solo album in 1985, became
    a solo hit. Fogerty's troubles aren't over, however. Saul Zaentz, 
    pincipal owner of Fantasy Records, is also suing Fogerty for two other 
    songs on Centerfield - Mr. Greed and Zanz Kant Danz.
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969.1pointerSRFSUP::MORRISSend Lawyers, Guns and RosesWed Nov 09 1988 12:033
    try DREGS::MUSIC under the topic 'plagiarism'
    
    Ashley
969.2How Much is Enough?STAR::DONOVANWed Nov 09 1988 13:1619
    It is a grave and troubling indication of the moral bankruptcy of
    our times:  John Fogerty being sued by Fantasy Records and its
    president (sp?) Saul Zantz.
    
    As many of you probably know, Creedence had more number one hits
    than any other American band (according to Billboard) and all of
    the rights to those hits belong to Fantasy Records.  That includes
    Bad Moon Rising, Proud Mary, Green River...  To this day Fogerty
    does *not* receive royalties from that music.  Fantasy most likely
    duped the young Fogerty into publishing deal back in the late sixties,
    a similar thing also happened to the Beatles.
    
    Run Through the Jungle was not as big a hit as The Old Man Down
    the Road.  Zantz sees "Old Man" is a money-maker and leaps in
    to sue on the incredible premise Fogerty sounds like himself.
    Apparently owning the Creedence catalog isn't enough for Zantz,
    he wants to own Fogerty.  
    
    If I could ask Zantz a question, it would be "How much is enough?"
969.3Wotta Bunch of Sweet GuysAQUA::ROSTYou've got to stop your pleadingWed Nov 09 1988 13:2119
    
    Actually, Fogerty *gave* Fantasy his publishing rights so that they
    would let him out of his *recording* contract with them.  He felt
    that they had mismanaged a trust fund for Creedence (which cost
    the band millions in lost funds when it went bankrupt!) and wanted
    nothing to do with the company anymore.
    
    Considering that the company owes their current health to Fogerty
    (Fantasy was on the skids in the late sixties, now it is a respected
    jazz label) *plus* the revenue they can generate from ownership
    of his songs, they are simply being nasty now.  Therefore the libel
    suits over "Mr. Greed" and "Zanz Kant Danz".
    
    Anyone who thinks record companies have any personal interest in
    the artists they sign or the music they manufacture should think
    twice.
    
    
   
969.4HAZEL::STARRLike a fool, fell in love with you...Wed Nov 09 1988 13:5218
re: .2

Just nitpicking here, but:

Of all the amazing facts in rock and roll (and there are many), this is
the most incredible - Credence Clearwater Revival *never* had a number
one record!!! It's true!!!

I believe they had 9 Top 10 hits, and at least two of them were at the
Number Two slot for over 9 weeks. But songs by such important artists as
the Partridge Family and Zager and Evans kept them out of the number
one slot.

The band I think is the greatest American singles band (possibly matched 
only by The Beach Boys), and they never had a number one hit! Sheesh!

Alan S.
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969.5DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDEveryday I got the bluesThu Nov 10 1988 07:394
    Nit: The Beatles sold thier song rights at the insistance of Paul
    and his family lawer connections, ie: the Eastmans
    
    dbii