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928.1 | finger Pick'n good! | POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA | | Tue Oct 18 1988 15:40 | 27 |
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I've got a good finger picking exercise!
1
2
3 0 0 0 0
4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
5 2 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
6 0 0 0 0 0
1 0 0 0
2 0 1 3 0
3 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 2
4 4 4 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 2
5 2 3 0
6 0 2 3 3 2 3
1
2
3 0 0
4 4 4 4 4
5 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 5 7
6 0 0
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928.2 | Some freindly arpeggios to help you kick out the jams | MARKER::BUCKLEY | RCMP, PMRC - No similarities | Tue Oct 18 1988 16:18 | 37 |
| To warm up I play the following arpeggios ascending and descending on
the neck.
Lets call em Arp#1, Arp#2, Arp#3, and Arp#4 for basic principles.
#1-maj #2-min #3-dim #4-aug
=========== =========== =========== ===========
| | | o | o | | | | | o | | | o | o | | | | | o
----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
| | | | o | | | | o | | | | | | | | | | | o o |
----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
| | o | | | | | o | o | | | o | o | | | o | | |
----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
| | | | | o | | | | | | | | | o | o | | | | | |
----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
| | | | | | | | | | | o | | | | | | | | | | | o
----------- ----------- ----------- -----------
x x 3 1 2 1 x x 3 2 3 1 x x 2 1 2 1 x x 4 2 3 1
4 4 3 4 4
Asc:n v n v/n n v n v/n n vnv n/v n v n v/n
Des:v n v n/v v n v n/v v nvn v/n v n v n/v
n - denotes downstroke
v - denotes upstroke
As I ascend in the arpeggios, I use an up & down picking technique
starting with a downstroke. When I reach the top note I slide my hand
up 1 fret, reverse the picking, and descend the arpeggio. Continue up
the neck til you can't go any further, then come back down. The
cross-string up and down picking helps to loosen up the hands a lot.
After that you can do the same Arp's with sweep-picking (obe stroke
each direction)!!
Buck
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928.3 | loose as a goose | POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA | | Wed Oct 19 1988 14:57 | 12 |
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I've seen some Riffs used by guitarists to loosen up.
1
2 15 14 17 14 15 14 19 14 15 14 14
3 14 14 14 14 14
4
5
6
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928.4 | From a beginner..... | SUBURB::DALLISON | a waffer fin mint ???? | Thu Oct 20 1988 05:48 | 55 |
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When I'm 'jamming', or just practising I use a combination of
scales, arpeggios (similar to Bucks) and weird progressions.
I also have various finger exercises, so that I can improve my
right hand alternate picking, and also improve my left hand
fingering, and I've listed one variety below:
In the first example, go down through the strings, and then
move along the neck one fret, then go up, then along and go
down, until you reach the 12fret, then go back up to the nut
again on each case. Make sure you pronounce all notes
properly and use strict alternate picking.
The numbers represent the fingers used and STARTING frets (ie,
in the first example, once you have gone down through the
strings once, you would continue, starting on the 2nd fret, so
you would be playing not 2143 but 3254. Get it ??
There are 24 mathematical possibilities with this exercise,
I've entered three and will enter the other 21 possibilities
when I have time.
Have fun...
-Tony
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1 E|| 2 1 4 3
2 B|| 2 1 4 3
3 G|| 2 1 4 3
4 D|| 2 1 4 3
5 A|| 2 1 4 3
6 E|| 2 1 4 3
n v n v n v etc..
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1 E|| 4 1 3 2
2 B|| 4 1 3 2
3 G|| 4 1 3 2
4 D|| 4 1 3 2
5 A|| 4 1 3 2
6 E|| 4 1 3 2
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1 E|| 1 4 2 3
2 B|| 1 4 2 3
3 G|| 1 4 2 3
4 D|| 1 4 2 3
5 A|| 1 4 2 3
6 E|| 1 4 2 3
Any problems then mail me, and I'll try and sort them out.
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928.5 | and there's more ... | SUBURB::DALLISON | a waffer fin mint ???? | Mon Oct 24 1988 10:08 | 49 |
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Another thing I use to warm up is a variant of the twelve bar blues
progression. I was experimenting with the TBB, when I suddenly
started playing this, and I now play this before I play any other
warm up exercise.
The notes that are written as O-O-4-4 (ie seperated with a hyphen)
are played with a 'funky' feel, whilst the other notes like 1410
(ie NO hyphen) should be played faster, with a much smoother feel.
Some parts (the fast bits) need strict use of alternate pickings,
the rest use normal (I've indicated what needs normal picking, and
what needs alternate) and besure to pronounce the notes correctly.
I've included all the strings (even the unplayed ones).
E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
B|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
G|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
D|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
A|-----------2-2-4-4--5420--------1410-----------2-2-4-4--5420-------1414
E|--O-O-4-4-----------------4104--------O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----
n n n n n n n n nvnv nvnv nvnv n n n n n n n n nvnv nvnv nvnv
E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
B|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
G|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
D|-----------2-2-4-4--5420--------1410-----------------------------------
A|--O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----------------2-2-4-4--5420-------1414
E|--------------------------------------O-O-4-4-----------------4104-----
n n n n n n n n nvnv nvnv nvnv n n n n n n n n nvnv nvnv nvnv
E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
B|------------------------------------------------------------------------
G|-----------1410---------------------------------------------------------
D|--O-O-4-4--------42-----------1410--------------------------------------
A|---------------------O-O-4-4-------42----------2-2-4-4-5-4-2------------
E|---------------------------------------O-O-4-4--------------------------
n n n n nvnv nv n n n n nvnv nv n n n n n n n n n n n
E|------------------------------------------------------------------------
B|------------------------------------------------------------------------
G|------------------------------------------------------------------------
D|------------------------------------------------------------------------
A|-222--444--666--444--1-O------------------------------------------------
E|--------------------------4-2-O-----------------------------------------
nvn nvn nvn nvn n n n n n
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928.6 | Warmups for me are just a bunch of exercises | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Yo! | Wed Oct 26 1988 10:51 | 49 |
| I do most of those arpeggios that Buck mentioned in the same
way. Alternate picking, changing the direction of the picking, etc.
I also play it once in each "box", starting at the 12th fret,
going down to the first, then back up. Going up and down the
neck like that gives you a sense of a complete exercise and
a "count" (how many times you've done it). These exercises sorta
warm-up your cross-picking.
I also like to do some bends and vibrato, not so much to warm
up the fingers, but to get some feeling into them, and sorta
"calibrate" my bends so that I bend in tune.
Here's a picking exercise I use. It's actually just a lick I made
up that stresses a bunch of common picking problems as well as
developing the technique to play consecutive notes with the same
finger on adjacent strings (same fret) in a fast riff by flattening
a finger. I find this leads to some atypical (less guitar cliches)
riffs. The riff encounters that on all but the 2nd finger.
It's basic just a descending pattern of 6 descending notes in a scale,
going up a fourth (in the scale which is major in the example), then
6 down again and so forth.
The horizontal lines are strings, the symbols are note names, the
riff as notated is played at the 12th fret (except at the end
where you slide down and back up):
FEGFE---E-------------------------------------------------------
-----DCB-DCB--CB------------------------------------------------
------------AG--AG--AG------------------------------------------
------------------FE--FED-FED---D-------------------------------
-------------------------C---CBA-CBA -BA------------------------
------------------------------------GF--GFEDE-------------------
^- A is played by flattening the 3rd finger
that played the preceeding E
I also do the standard 2 finger, 3 finger and 4 finger exercises
(alternate picking and changing direction) with primary emphasis
on the variations of the 3 finger exercise.
BTW, I've always felt that my warm-ups and exercises placed too
much emphasis on picking. Thing is, I pick just about EVERY note
and thus picking is real critical for me. I've been trying to
break myself of this habit so I'm interested to hear what some
not-so-picking-oriented players do.
db
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928.7 | | PNO::HEISER | Montana, the Bradshaw of the '80s | Tue Jan 17 1989 12:11 | 4 |
| Could someone explain "arpeggio" to a beginner?
Thanks,
Mike
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928.8 | | COMET::STEWART | | Tue Jan 17 1989 12:49 | 5 |
| arpeggio = broken chord; notes of a chord played in succession
rather than simultaneously (block chord). Arpeggio comes from
the word arpa which translates to harp.
=ken
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928.9 | arpeggios in solos | PNO::HEISER | Montana, the Bradshaw of the '80s | Tue Jan 17 1989 17:39 | 5 |
| Is this what a lead guitarist typically does in a solo? I'm thinking
of an electric lead using a pick. Is the rapid picking an arpeggio?
Thanks,
Mike
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928.10 | | COMET::STEWART | | Tue Jan 17 1989 19:21 | 27 |
| Yes, it is what a lead guitarist would use sometimes, among other
things, in a solo.
The rapid picking itself, though, would not necessarilly be an
arpeggio. Sometimes what you hear is based on scale patterns.
Recognizing the difference can be tricky, however.
Roughly speaking, though, the difference can be defined, for
recognitions sake, as scale patterns being identified by successive
notes in a scale, e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc., or, in other words, A
followed by B followed by C#, etc. The arpeggio can be identified by
skips in relation to the notes, e.g. 1, 3, 5, 7, or A followed by C#
followed by E followed by G#.
Again, this is a rough example and different points of view might
exist depending on how one defines chords. If a note cluster is
a chord then does it follow that played as a broken chord one might
interpret that as an arpeggio? Sounds philosophical to me.
Anyway, arpeggios and scales are two items that belong in a guitarists
toolbox such that should the need or desire strike they can be called
upon to fit the moment.
=ken
Oh, by the way, scales or arpeggios can be played either with or
without a pick. Depends on the guitarist.
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928.11 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | March 30th-Lock up your girls! | Sun Jan 22 1989 10:29 | 7 |
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So am I correct in saying that the intro riff to U2's 'Sunday Bloody
Sunday' is an arpeggio, as it is based around the chord form of D, or
as it strays from it is it just a riff that happens to resemble the
D chord ?
I've always wondered about that one.
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928.12 | | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Nice boys don't play rock n roll! | Mon Jan 23 1989 10:31 | 5 |
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re: -1
yeah, Sunday Bloody Sunday are three arpeggios, Bminor, D major,
and Eminor 7, respectively.
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928.13 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | March 30th-Lock up your girls! | Mon Jan 23 1989 11:59 | 1 |
| So I thought.
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928.14 | Thanks | POBOX::KOTSCHARJANA | | Thu Oct 19 1989 21:20 | 1 |
| My Thanks to everyone who spent the time to contribute!
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928.15 | | STAR::KMCDONOUGH | SET KIDS/NOSICK | Mon Jan 27 1997 08:17 | 14 |
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This past weekend my left hand started to cramp up while I
was playing, enough that I had to shake it out between songs.
I've been real picky about left hand positioning, I keep my
thumb under the neck, maintain a good arch, etc. But, I guess
I'm just not playing enough to keep my hand flexible.
It's a bummer to try and dash off a fast run and have my hand refuse
to cooperate!
Time for some 'shed......
Kevin
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928.16 | Ouch | SALEM::DACUNHA | | Mon Jan 27 1997 19:30 | 8 |
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I hope it was *only* a cramp and not something more.
Can you say cortizone?
Chris
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928.17 | | STAR::KMCDONOUGH | SET KIDS/NOSICK | Tue Jan 28 1997 07:36 | 10 |
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My wrist is fine but my elbow is still sore, so I'm starting to
think that it might be more than a cramp. I broke this arm
years ago, so it might be arthritis. It could also be a karate
injury. I did take a good kick on that arm a week ago.
I dunno. Not a thrilling prospect in any event.
Kevin
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928.18 | Tennis elbow | SALEM::DACUNHA | | Tue Jan 28 1997 19:52 | 10 |
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I had a problem with "tennis elbow" in my left (picking) elbow.
It hurt so bad I thought I had torn something major in that arm. The
doctor reassured me and gave me one of those bubble bandages. That
seemd to relieve the pain but still made playing awkward. It took
about 2 months before the pain went away.
Chris
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