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| 899.1 | Old Humbuckers? | BMT::COMAROW | Bring on the Dodgers | Sat Oct 08 1988 07:58 | 7 |
| Depends when your talking about old humbuckers. During the PAF
days, they were identical.
What are you removing and what are you putting in?
On what kind of Paul?
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| 899.2 | More info... | VAXWRK::INGRAM | That was then, This isn't happening. | Mon Oct 10 1988 00:04 | 23 |
| > What are you removing and what are you putting in?
The current ones appear to be either stock Gibson, DiMarzio,
or a combination of both. Two of the pickup mounting rings say
DiMarzio, the other one has no markings at all. There is no name
whatsoever on or inside the pickups. FWIW, each of the chrome
pickup covers is a different height (i.e. if you remove the covers
from the pickups and put them side by side on a table, there is a
short, a medium and a tall one). How can I tell who made them?
I'm not sure what I'll put in, but I'm thinking about Shaller
golden 50s because they've got 4 wire plus shield and they're
relatively inexpensive. The four wires will give me a lot of
flexibility along with the 4 push-pull pots I'm going to use.
> On what kind of Paul?
'71 Custom. I considered rewiring the existing pickups, but it's
more of a hassle than I want to deal with.
Thanks,
Larry
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| 899.3 | Mounting rings are the difference here... | CCYLON::ANDERSON | | Mon Oct 10 1988 10:51 | 5 |
| The pickups themselves are the same. It is the mounting rings that
are different. A higher one in usually needed near the bridge.
Jim
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| 899.4 | I like it bright | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Quayle? Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | Mon Oct 10 1988 11:08 | 6 |
| For the middle pickup, I'd get a `bridge' model for replacement.
The bridge models are wired for a brighter, thicker voicing than
the neck models (usually) are. Personall, I'd prefer a brighter
sounding pickup in the middle position.
Buck
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| 899.5 | That's right | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Back in Black | Mon Oct 10 1988 17:49 | 7 |
| As Jim mentioned in .-2, the mounting rims are different heights. I
just thought I'd clarify that a little. They are different heights on
all Les Pauls. The curvature of the body and the angle which the neck
joins it, forces the pickups to be at slightly different heights to be
the same distance from the strings.
Greg
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| 899.6 | Covers are different heights | VAXWRK::INGRAM | That was then, This isn't happening. | Mon Oct 10 1988 18:58 | 10 |
| > FWIW, each of the chrome
> pickup covers is a different height (i.e. if you remove the covers
> from the pickups and put them side by side on a table, there is a
> short, a medium and a tall one).
Believe me, the covers are different heights. I've got three different
height mounting rings AND three different height covers.
Larry
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| 899.7 | a synopsis | SUDAMA::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Tue Oct 11 1988 10:37 | 19 |
| I'd like to summarize this, because it has gotten a little confusing:
1. Yes, the pickup rings *are* different heights. I can attest to this
because that is the case on my ES-345. This may be irrelevant, since
you could buy mounting rings separately.
2. Yes, the pickups also differ electronically. In the Stewart
McDonalds catalogue they indicate that bridge and neck position
humbuckers differ in output levels to account for the loss of signal
due to position. They don't say anything about tone. Presumably this
means that the bridge pickup has a higher gain, which probably is what
Bill meant by saying it is "brighter".
3. From what you have said, it appears that the pickup covers also
differ in height. I suspect that if this is the case it is because they
came from different manufacturers. If the holes are all routed to the
same depth I don't see what diference it would make.
- Ram
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| 899.8 | Tone as well as gain | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Quayle? Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | Tue Oct 11 1988 10:49 | 16 |
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Just for clarification, I wasn't refering to a boost in volume between
neck and bridge pickups.
Pickups can designed through materials and windings to produce a
certain voicing. You can wire a pickup to have more midrange attack,
more bass, more treble response, etc etc (See the Dimarzio pickup
chart. They provide the freq. response for all their pickups). While
the bridge pickup may be wound for more gain than the neck pickup, its
usually wound for more midrange response. I had two pickups custom
wound in Boston. The neck pickup is voiced for a boost at 800hz and a
notch at 3.5K. The bridge pickup has a slight boost at 2.5K and a notch a
200HZ. Note these pickups are passive. The special frequencies are a
result of construction, not some active circuitry.
Buck
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