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Title: | GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion |
Notice: | Discussion of the finer stringed instruments |
Moderator: | KDX200::COOPER |
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Created: | Thu Aug 14 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 3280 |
Total number of notes: | 61432 |
831.0. "'68 Strat Reissue- Comments?" by PARITY::SZABO (Merrimack College, Class of 1992!) Thu Sep 08 1988 13:17
Yesterday, I checked-out different model Strats, one of which I
have a strong desire to buy-> a cream colored '68 reissue. Since
I'm just now getting back my interest and enthusiasm for playing
the guitar (after almost 20 years of barely picking one up), I have
no idea what I'm doing in trying to choose something. I suppose
I'm off to a good start in choosing the color I'd like to have!
Especially confusing to me is the '68 reissue Strat vs. a 1988
standard Strat in that, do I want one that's supposed to sound like
a classic, or do I want one with the latest technology? Is the
'68 reissue, which is supposedly a limited edition, worth it for
the money, in other words, will it be as or more valuable than an
'88 standard 20 or 30 years from now?
I realize that my questions are relative to one's tastes and
perception, and there will be many different opinions, but I'd like
to know what you people think. What would you do?
Here's a little background about me and why I'm suddenly interested.
I took 3 years of serious lessons back in the late 60's (roughly
5th-8th grades), played in several grade school bands, you know,
and was well on my way to becoming real good. Well, things fell
about because my teacher of 3 years decided to get married and move
on. I was destroyed because he was really cool and I didn't want
to look for anyone else. Also around that time, high school came
and so did different friends as well as different interests. Needless
to say, my interest in the guitar was buried. For many years now,
I've contemplated resurrecting my guitar and my past skills and
making a go of it. I've realized that the time has come, especially
since my 7 year old daughter is learning to play the piano, and
is doing extremely well. My 4 year old son seems very interested
in music also, and has expressed a desire for the guitar. I want
to be a musical influence, if you will, for both of them, and I
want to do it for myself so, it's now or never......
So, why a Strat? Well, I'm not familiar with all the guitars out
there, and the Strat's a familiar name to me. Besides, back in
the 60's, I've always had a strong desire to own a Fender guitar,
namely the Mustang, but never had the cash. (I don't have the cash
now either, but I can work on it!) Also, I'd want something that
I'd really like to "re-learn" how to play on, and I think it's a
Strat. And I'm looking for advice. Oh yeah, I'm having Fred A.
from this notesfile demo a '68 reissue and others for me tomorrow,
thanks Fred, but I'd also very much appreciate other input.
And finally, I'd like to plug a local (to me) music store for it's
friendly and courteous service, including it's willingness to let
me try anything even though I mentioned how inexperienced I was.
It's the Music Workshop in Salem,NH. I've walked into several other
music stores lately, and all of them made me feel unwanted, especially
that one down the road from Music Workshop. I don't know if I could
get a better deal anywhere else, and I almost don't care because
these people are great.
Enough ramlblin' on. Any comments? Thanks in advance.
John
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831.1 | 68? | SCOMAN::WCLARK | I'm too fast to play cool | Thu Sep 08 1988 14:22 | 8 |
| Are you sure it was a '68 re-issue and not a '62? Fender has
been making reissues of the '57 and '62 strats for a while;
they are generally thought of as excellent instruments. I
never heard of a '68 reissue. Also, you can get a really
GOOD Squire Strat (also made by Fender) for about half of
what the reissue costs.
-Dave
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831.2 | Check out used ones | VOLKS::RYEN | Rick Ryen 285-6248 | Thu Sep 08 1988 14:25 | 28 |
| I would suggest you look into USED Strats. They can be
had for $300-$450. Look for one that hasn't been beat
up by some kid, or modified to death.
If you get one in good shape, and decide to sell or trade
it in a few years, you are less likely to loose money than
if you buy a brandy new one.
The original strat design was a very playable and durable
guitar. It has not changed dramatically over the years,
and I don't believe that there is any earthshaking new
technology in the newer versions.
They seem to vary in color, weight, type of woods used
and the way the serial numbers are marked. Small variations
in the shape can be noted, especially in the headstocks.
I bought a used 1971 natural finish Strat with a maple neck
about 5 yrs ago. It was in very good shape, no scratches,
and all original. One fret was worn a bit, and the wammy bar
was missing. It came with a almost like new case. It cost me
$385, in a music store. I'd bet I could get $450 or $500 for
it today, but it will never be sold.
If I had to do it over again myself, I would look exclusively
at the used market.
Good hunting
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831.3 | Dave, you're back! | RUGRAT::POWELL | Dan Powell/274-6608 | Thu Sep 08 1988 14:44 | 5 |
| I second what Dave has to say about the Squire. It is a very good
guitar for it's price. I don't think you'll really feel (or hear)
a difference between a Squire and a '62 re-issue.
Dan
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831.4 | Strat opinions | GLIND1::VALASEK | | Thu Sep 08 1988 15:02 | 31 |
| Only my opinion, but, I have owned a 74 Tele-thinline, a squire
bullet, a squire strat, a Japanese Fender strat, and a custom American
standard from the custom shop.
My observations were this....
74 Tele thinline - nice warm sound almost infinite sustain, felt
good.
Squire bullet - not bad for a budget guitar, not the sound of a
strat.
Squire strat - better yet, decent quality, nice action, but definitely
not the same sound as a Fender strat.
Fender Japanese strat - nice guitar, nice sound, good action (after
I had it set up at the local guitar store).
Custom American standard - best I have owned, plays nice, the neck
is special, fits like a glove, sounds different than the Japanese
Fender strat (more punch on the high end, probably due to the PBX
tone control). Stays in tune nicely (no locking tuners or nut).
All of these guitars had a distinct sound all of their own. No two
sounded alike to me. Personally I like the American Standard Strat
best. You can get them with a case for around 490.00 brand new.
I have seen them as low as 380.00 at special shows.
Just my opinion....
Tony
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831.5 | Yup, it's a '68 reissue! | PARITY::SZABO | Merrimack College, Class of 1992! | Thu Sep 08 1988 16:12 | 29 |
| Yes, it's definitely a '68 reissue. I'd guess it's relatively new
on the market since the Strat brochure did not include it, only
the '57 and '62. I don't recall if it's marked as such on the
headstock, but the 3 '68's in the store were ticketed as '68, and
some sort of invoice ticket attached was dated early July.
Funny thing, now that I think of it, is that I remember seeing those
same 2 cream colored '68 reissues about 5-6 weeks ago while browsing.
It's starting to make me wonder now........why haven't they sold
yet? Is it because an American Standard is about the same price?
Interesting comments about a Squire Strat and a Japanese Fender
Strat. I `felt' the Squire, which had the Rosewood fretboard, then
I felt the maple '68, and realized immediately that I prefer the
maple neck. Does a Squire come in a maple fretboard too?
Also, concerning used. I realize what many people say about finding
an older used Strat in good condition however, I real picky when
it comes to used stuff, and I don't think I have the time and energy
to spend hunting around till I'm satisfied, which I may never be.
But I hear what your saying. I also like to be the first owner
of something that costs serious money and something that I'll probably
own forever (well, till I give it to my kids, who will be grown-up
when the time comes).
Like the replies so far. Keep 'em coming especially about the low-end
Strats (and compared to the high-end ones). Thanks.
John
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831.6 | | DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID | Everyday I got the blues | Fri Sep 09 1988 08:16 | 15 |
| We bought a squire strat for our oldest boy and I thought it was
an excellant guitar. However, I tried several squires before picking
the one we bought...it was every bit as good as my early '70's strat
with one exception: the pickups. Since I would change the pickups
anyway from stock to stacks of some sort (stacked humbuckers sound
strat-ish but don't hum, especially at high gain settings) this
was a non-issue for me...
The re-issues I tried were the '62 (I think) I found them to be
good but at the time (several years ago) overpriced (IMO).
As far as I know you can get any neck you want, ie: maple or rosewood
on a squire. The reissues usually only come with one or the other.
dbii
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831.7 | More comments about American STD | GLIND1::VALASEK | | Wed Sep 14 1988 12:25 | 12 |
| I agree, Squire's definitely have different sounding pickups. What
I tend to like though is the new PBX tone control on the new American
Standards. You can get just about any tone you want. Also, I really
like the stock pickups. I usually play using the in-between position
on the pickup switch (position 2). On the new American Std this
is a hum cancelling position. I also like the new bridge design,
the old strats High-E always felt like it was going to fall off
the fretboard. The American Std. has solved this problem.
Regards,
Tony
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