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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

810.0. "Bass Cab Info Needed" by FSTVAX::GALLO (Tom Gallo - Field Service Training) Tue Aug 30 1988 09:41

    
    
    	Could someone please provide info on small bass cabs or self
    contained units.I am looking for a good amp/cab combo to use as
    a practice amp.
    
    Ideally,I would like to use my 50w bassman and buy a small cab,but
    all ideas  are welcome.
    
    Note: Whatever is suggested,it must fit into my *small* Renault
    Alliance.
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    _TomG_
    
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810.1I like 'em16BITS::OMALLEYI think it's time to Do The VagueTue Aug 30 1988 11:145
    New England Speaker in Stoneham sells Sonic 15" speaker cabs, loaded
    or unloaded.  I believe the price of the speaker cab is $120-150.
    It fits in the trunk of my Mazda 626.
    
    Peter O
810.2Homegrown brand cabsVOLKS::RYENRick Ryen 285-6248Tue Aug 30 1988 13:3163
I've been workin toward a similar goal. That is, getting basic 
amplification for a bass. Nothin fancy and price is very important to me
since I play guitar more often than bass.

My buddy wanted to build a cab to play guitar thru as a practice amp.
He has a spare Fender Bandmaster (50W) to drive it.
He decided to use a 15" speaker, so it could do double duty as a bass
cab. He's decided that the sound is a bit muddy for guitar
(ya loose mids and highs), but it seems to work great for bass.
We're gonna use it for bass, and he's gonna build another for guitar
with a 12".

We built the bass cab for ~$80, and about 3 hours time.
(we haven't put the grill on yet, or stained it, but that should be
 quick n' easy)

Materials:

1/2 sheet 5/8" finished plywood 	($10) ($19 a full sheet)
	(buy good stuff)
1"x3" #2 pine furring                   (~$3)
ReCONED fender bassman 15" speaker      ($59) (sounds like brand new)
Elmers waterproof glue                  (?)
Sheetrock screws (~1.5")                (~$1)
1/4" female jack                        (~$1)
speaker mounting bolts/nuts             (~$2)
rubber feet                              
Radio Shack grill cloth                 (~$5)
 (still lookin for handles, but they should be cheap)


dimensions 14"d x 20"h x 24"w 
	(this was not scientifically designed for resonance, but it seems
	 to work okay, and is pleasing shape. Could be made smaller for
	 more portability, but don't know what effect it would have on the 
	 sound (might be better, might be worse))
	 
	1"x3" are used inside the cabinet at the corners to allow you to
	run the screws into the 1x3, instead of the plywood endgrain.
	All are glued excessively for a super strong cabinet.

Tools:
	Skill saw
	4' saw guide - very important for straight cuts
	Jigsaw - for the round speaker hole
	3/8" drill and phillips bit, assorted drill bits

We applied glue to every joint, and used plenty of 1.5" sheetrock
screws everywhere (about every 4")

	We have run this full bore on a 50w boogie, and it performed
	flawlessly (no buzzes, hums or crackles). The speaker is rated
	at 100watts, so I suspect it can handle much more than we gave it.
	The walls in my basement were shakin at 50w!.

The bottom line... If have some tools and some minimal carpentry skills, 
you can build a reasonable bass cab very cheaply, 
and put more money into a good used head. (I'd guess ya can pick up
a used bassman head for $75-$150)

Whether it looks like pro equipment depends on your skill as a carpenter
and creativity in finishing it. But, you should be able to get reasonable
quality sound for a very reasonable price.
810.3TOLEX?MISERY::CORTOPASS_DAThu Jul 23 1992 14:4410
    Guess this is as good a place to put this as any.
    
    Anyone know who/where I might by the material used to cover Fender cabinets
    (I think it's called Tolex)? Maybe via catalog? Anyone ever applied it?
    Do you have to hot glue it or??? How much is it?
    
    Would it be easier/better to paint or spray some kind of black fiberglass
    on it, and if so, what would I use?
    
    Thanx, dc
810.4Where to look & an alternativeBSS::STPALY::MOLLERFix it before it breaksThu Jul 23 1992 14:5210
Tolex is the same stuff that car manufacturers used to put on car roofs
as a vinal roof - It's still available from suppliers for that
same purpose. You can use Elmers Glue (my favorite choice, since you don't
neet to worry about ventilation), contact cement, or some of those spray
on adheasives. I'm using gray indoor/outdoor carpeting (Ozite is one of the
brand names) now, as it holds up much better. Same technique of applying
it. Le Parts Express sells this if you can't find a source at a carpet
store.

							Jens
810.5ZYMRGY::samBlood Sugar Sex MagickThu Jul 23 1992 14:5711
   I'm sure there are others in here who've done this before, but I'm just
   starting to look into recovering some cabs, too.  In answer to .3's 
   question (as best I can) I've found I can get Ozite at a local upholstery
   supply shop.  If they carry Ozite I imagine they also carry Tolex (yes,
   you had the name right).  I was quoted "Anywhere from $8.95/yard to 
   $29/yard, depending on the quality" for Ozite.

   Spray coat it?  Ugh.  Nah...  Unless you want a really ugly cabinet you'll
   never get rid of...  Never blaspheme a Fender cab in this way!  :-)

   -- Sam
810.6Stew-MacSMURF::BENNETTWearin' out things that nobody wearsThu Jul 23 1992 17:294
	Stewart-Macdonald Guitar Shop Supply in Athens, OH sells Tolex.

	Look for their ad in the back of any guitar mag.