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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

724.0. "metal deposits - HELP !!!!" by SUBURB::DALLISON (may your chickens grow lips) Mon Jul 18 1988 09:46

         
         
    Does anybody have an explanation and/or cure for a problem I have??
    The problem is that I seem to be getting deposits of (what I am  
    assuming to be) metal, from my strings, underneath my strings, between 
    my pickups ??                                                    
                                                                     
    Is this usual ? is it not ?? Is there something I can put on the 
    strings ???
                                                                     
    I'm using Ernie Ball custom gauge nickel wound strings.
                    
    E - 0.46   
    A - 0.36   
    D - 0.26   
    G - 0.17   
    B - 0.13   
    E - 0.10   
               
    -Tony Dallison, 
    Reading, England
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724.1More info please?CSC32::G_HOUSEThey call me Squid HeadMon Jul 18 1988 13:3313
    Where exactly are the deposits?  Are they near the bridge?  What do
    they look like?  Is it possible that there is another source than the
    strings? 
    
    You don't, by chance, use a metal or stone pick (or something similar,
    like a coin)?  That could cause excessive wear on both strings and
    plectrum. 
                      
    Do you notice this especially just after changing strings?  If so, you
    might try wiping them off before installing them. 
    
    Just some thoughts,                               
    gh
724.3Perhaps cause I pick every note I get this more than othersDREGS::BLICKSTEINYo!Mon Jul 18 1988 16:3311
    I get this all the time.  I use Ernie Ball strings too, but I've
    had this happen with other brands as well.
    
    I'm not even real convinced it's metallic flakes.  I tried running
    a magnet over it and it didn't attract anything.  It may be pick
    dust or who knows.
    
    Anyway, I doubt it damages the guitar in anyway.  On those days
    when I'm feeling unusually fastidious I just wipe it away.
    
    	db
724.4I think this is the problem and answer !VIVIAN::BENNETTRidin' along in my L.A.V.cTue Jul 19 1988 05:2118
    I don't think it's metal from the guitar !, possibly very fine deposits
    from the strings. Remember the pickups are wound etc. so create
    a magnetic field of sorts around the P.U.s this will attract any
    dust particles close enough and small enough.
    
    I get the same thing, I wonder if humbuckers attract more muck
    than single coil ? 
    
    To cure this I use (after a wood polish) an antistatic furniture
    spray on the body and 'Fast Fret' over the strings. 
    It doesn't elliminate the problem but does reduce it considerably. 
    I think the dust is a little unsightly but I don't think it will 
    damage the guit' any. (?)
    
    hope this is the answer.

    Graham ...
    
724.5answers, answers everywhere.SUBURB::DALLISONmay your chickens grow lipsTue Jul 19 1988 05:3148
    
    
    O.k, I'll try to answer all the questions asked :-
    
    Where are the deposits :-
    They are between the pickups, on the body and there are some deposits
    near the bridge.
    
    What do they look like :- 
    They are tiny grey flakes (looks just like metal).
    
    Is it possible that there is another source than the strings :-
    Er... could be.
                   
    You don't by any chance use a metal or stone pick... :-
    Awwww, gimmie credit for some brains !!!! No, I use nothing but
    Fender picks, different sizes.
                   
    Do you notice this especially after changing strings.... :-
    Nope :-) .     
                   
    Do you have a whammy bar on your guitar :-
    Yup, but I don't dive-bomb every over note.  I use it TASTEFULLY
    :-) .          
                   
    Do your strings ever make contact with the plating on your 
    pickups :-     
    Now that is quite possible, I have real low action on my guitar.
                   
    Is the plating on the pickups and the bridge intact and not apt
    to be flaking off :-
    Nope, the guitar is in good shape.
                   
    What kind of guitar are you talking about :-
    A Starforce 8000 (any the wiser ;-)  ).
                   
    How quickly does the buildup occur :-
    When I wipe it all off, it will be back again after a couple hours
    playing.       
                   
    And last but not least, this question has not been asked, but I'll
    answer it anyway
                   
    DO I HAVE DANDRUFF :-
    nope :-)       
                   
    Thanx for the help,
    -Tony          
724.6SUBURB::DALLISONmay your chickens grow lipsTue Jul 19 1988 05:355
    Oh yeah, I pick most notes and I only wanna get rid of the dust
    for cosmetic reasons (ie it looks horrible on a black scratchplate).
    
    -Tony
724.7I pick only with my teeth, must be teeth dustCSC32::G_HOUSEThey call me Squid HeadTue Jul 19 1988 15:1311
    Hey Tony, no insult intended...
    
    >    You don't by any chance use a metal or stone pick... :-
    >    Awwww, gimmie credit for some brains !!!! 
      
    You may want to do as one of the prev notes did and test the stuff
    with a magnet to see if it's magnetic.  This might give you an idea
    of the source.  
    
    Good luck,
    gh
724.8SUBURB::DALLISONmay your chickens grow lipsWed Jul 20 1988 06:445
    
    O.k, I'll try it tonight and let you know what happend......
    
    
    BTW - I didn't *really* take offence ;-)
724.9It's supposed to say Mike BellTOOK::DDS_SECDreamy Primate...Wed Jul 20 1988 09:289
    	It could very well be metal even though it's not magnetic. 
    The magnetic properties of a metal change drastically when they
    form OXIDES, which is what I suspect.  If the flakes are smallish
    and dull, ask yourself what kind of climate you're in.  If you answer
    yourself "humid," then that would jibe with the oxidation theory
    as vaporous water (not necessarily submersion) can facilitate a
    breakdown in the quality of your strings.
    
    Mike BEll
724.10SUBURB::DALLISONmay your chickens grow lipsWed Jul 20 1988 10:163
    
    Climate humid ?? nawww, I'm in England, we don't have warm weather
    here !!! :-) .