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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

703.0. "BOSS ME-5 Effects" by HAVOC::DESROCHERS (concentratin' on truckin' right) Thu Jun 30 1988 12:32

	I just tried the BOSS ME-5 last night at Wurlitzers
	in Framingham.  They said it lists for $849 and they
	want $699.  The pedal to control the major groups is
	an additional $30 and is definitely needed.

	It's their lower budget version of their Roland GP-8
	with less sounds all in a programable module with 
	foot pedal control.  I know I'd write over most (85%) of
	the preprogrammed sounds but you could see the potential.
	
	I don't have a brochure so this is what I remember it having...

	Compression Distortion/Overdrive Phaser?/Flanger? Digital Delay/Chorus

	You can set all the different levels of each but can only pick one
	of the options with a "/".  

	Basically, you have 5 pedals labeled 1 2 3 4 and B (for Bank).
	There are 4 programable sounds within 4 banks within 4.
	So, there are 4 sound slots for 11, 4 for 12, 4 for 13, 4 for 14,
	4 for 21, 4 for 22, 4 for 23, 4 for 24, 4 for 31, etc... thru 44.

	Impressions anybody?  Price?  Quality of BOSS?  Sound Quality?
	Anything else out there in it's price range with the SAME options?
	
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703.1Alternatives !!ANGORA::JACQUESThu Jun 30 1988 15:0129
    Considering a GP8 sells for about $899 compared with the ME-5
    at $699, the savings is only about $200. The GP8 has midi. I
    am assuming the ME-5 doesn't. This may be a big issue to someone
    assembling a midi-controlled system.
    
    As far as what else is out there, for units with distortion, compression,
    Delay, Reverb, Flange, Chorus, there is the GP8, the Yamaha REX50,
    Rockmodules, and a few other units  available. If you can do without
    the distortion and compression, you could buy a Digitech DSP128
    which has Digital Delay, Reverb, Chorus, Flange, and EQ, and allows
    any 3 effects to be used at the same time. Art also has some layering
    effects processors in the same price range as the DSP128 which lists
    for $399 and can be purchased for even less.
    
    Considering that you are playing through a Mesa Boogie, I would
    think the Mesa provides enough distortion/overdrive and that you
    wouldn't need an effects processor with distortion. As far as 
    compression, you could get a stomp box or 19" rackmount compressor
    for about $100 if you really want one. For about $350, you could
    buy a DSP128, and a good compressor, and save the rest of your
    money for something else. $699 still seems like a high price for an
    effects processor. Of course it's only my opinion !!!!
    
    Mark Jacques
    
     
    
    
    
703.2live is a mustHAVOC::DESROCHERSconcentratin' on truckin' rightThu Jun 30 1988 15:4717
    
    Mark,
    
    The ME-5 has midi capabilities.  Your price of $899 for the GP-8
    does not include the $200+ foot pedal option which is necessary
    for live.
    
    The Boogie's distortion is good for some things but can't be
    adjusted (programmed) without going to the amp.  Plus, the older
    ones CLICK when switching from clean to dirty.
    
    The tabletop Yamaha REX50 was blasted here awhile back (I wrote
    the base note).    
    
    Maybe that DSP128 and some sort of distortion/overdrive too?
    
    
703.3no gainMARKER::BUCKLEYits MIDI 4 meThu Jun 30 1988 16:248
    
    No overdrivein the DSP-128.  
    
    Also, I tried it out and didn't like the freq response for guitar.
    It sounded good with a drum machine hooked up, so it might be better
    for vocals or studio work.
    
    
703.4REX50 blasted ??ANGORA::JACQUESFri Jul 01 1988 09:5429
    
    Re. .2  I remember the note on the REX50. No one blasted the units'
    performance or sound. Us rack-mount freaks complained that is wasn't
    rack mountable. We all conceded that if the unit sounded good, and
    rack mount wasn't a requirement, then go for it. Rack mount gear
    is not for everyone. Some people prefer stomp boxes, or even table-
    top gear. 
    
    	Lately, I have seen a lot of these self-contained personal
    recording setups in Guitar Player, Musician, etc. They are
    generally set up on an Ultamate Support stand, with monitor
    speakers mounted on the top corners. These are great for midi-studio's.
    The REX50 would fit in perfectly with drum machines, sequencers,
    keyboards, multitrackers, etc in this type of setup.
    
    To each, his own !!!
    
    	Sometimes it seems from reading magazines that there is an infinate
    sea of equipment choices out there to fit every musicians requirements.
    Then I go looking to buy something, and I usually find it tough to
    find exactly the right piece of gear. What seems like the greatest
    thing since sliced bread in the magazines, usually ends up having
    some major shortcoming in real life.
    
    Mark Jacques
                                            
    
    
    
703.5Was that a ???? Oooooooooooo !!!ANT::JACQUESTue Aug 02 1988 09:2012
    Tom,
    
    	I noticed you had a new effects processor with you on Saturday
    and was wondering if it was the ME50. Then I went into Union Music
    on Monday and checked one out. How do you like it ? It looks great,
    but a little expensive. Union is selling them for ~$575, ouch !!!
    I'd be interested to hear your review of the unit since you have
    had one for a while.
    
    Mark