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| 665.1 | Jam haunted by Jaco's spirit | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | The height of MIDIocrity | Tue Jun 07 1988 10:14 | 10 |
| Fred Abatelli seems to have the Jaco sound down to a T.
We jammed last Saturday and in between tunes Fred played this 3 note
lick that was just INSTANTLY identifiable as Jaco. The tone was
right off the record. I had my back turned to Fred and I heard that
lick and almost instantly felt like Jaco was there in the room.
Tell us Fred, how do you do it?
db
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| 665.2 | No MIDI for Rainbow | RUGRAT::POWELL | Dan Powell/274-6608 | Tue Jun 07 1988 10:32 | 8 |
| There are no MIDI interfaces for the Rainbow. Even you were able
to construct one you'd still have to write your own software.
This was one of the reasons I dumped my Rainbow.
See NOVA::COMMUSIC for more on this subject.
Dan
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| 665.3 | No MIDI for bass..... | JAWS::COTE | Are you buying this at all?? | Tue Jun 07 1988 10:38 | 12 |
| A pitch-to-MIDI converter for a bass guitar is almost bound to be
unsatisfactory. The strings simply vibrate tooooooo sloooooowly
to give a reasonable tracking time.
Now if you had some real thin strings, tuned up real tight and a
synth which could transpose down a couple octaves...
Pitch-to-MIDI is just barely acceptable (to some, not me) on the
low strings of a standard guitar. There's still alot of work to
be done to make it work well on a bass...
Edd
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| 665.4 | how do you get to Carnegie Hall? | RICKS::CALCAGNI | | Tue Jun 07 1988 11:20 | 1 |
| practice, practice, practice
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| 665.5 | that Jaco sound | RICKS::CALCAGNI | | Tue Jun 07 1988 11:31 | 7 |
| sorry, my previous reply was a bit facetious. The only effect Jaco
used I believe was a bit of digital delay; try a cheap stomp box.
The main ingredient was of course the vibrato produced by Jaco's
fingers; roundwound strings (if you don't use them) should help,
and set your bass to its most trebly setting. Ciao
/rick
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| 665.6 | You Need Roland For MIDI Bass | AQUA::ROST | Lizard King or Bozo Dionysius? | Tue Jun 07 1988 11:38 | 13 |
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Roland made some basses that plugged into the GR77B synthesizer
which had a MIDI Out. You need both pieces, though.
Both Pedulla and Steinberger have made guitars with the Roland
electronics, they *may* have made some basses, but you still need
the GR77B synthesizer.
To date, Roland has not marketed the bass electronics separately
(as they have the guitar electronics).
The GR77B, by the way, does *not* support pitch bending (can you believe
it???); it's basically a "bass" version of the GR700 MIDI guitar synth.
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| 665.7 | Gee... am I possessed, or processed??? | SALEM::ABATELLI | Set/Mode=No_Think | Tue Jun 07 1988 13:25 | 44 |
| Hi There,
You know, I read all the other replies "before" I decided to
reply to Valters note. Let's think for a minute here. Wasn't
Jaco playing in Weather Report "before" midi? Didn't he have that
"tone" before all the computer jazz? Sure he did! I hate like heck
to give out my secrets...... so I won't!
OK.... I guess it can't hurt.(?) Jaco's toys back in the "Weather
Report" days were pretty simple. Chorus, Flanger, compressor and a
multi-head tape echo unit. Simple huh. Chorus and flange give that
watery effect, but don't add too much other wise you will sound
like you really *are* under water, compressor because you need it
and the multi-head echo, because Jaco liked to layer tracks in a live
situation.
As for the way I do it?
Sorry, confidental information. I'll give you a hint though.
"Harmonics"!
1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Harmonics!
Have Fun Valter,
Fred-who's-glad-that-some-people-still-like-that-style-of-bass-playing!
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| 665.8 | Sans les frets | SRFSUP::MORRIS | Excitable Boy | Tue Jun 07 1988 17:16 | 11 |
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I tried out a !!! 5-string fretless Steinberger !!!! on Sunday.
The fretless seems to be a requisite for the Jaco sound; and the
Steinberger helps a little too. Although you may end up sounding
like Pino Palladino (like on 'Sunset Grill'), which ain't necessarily
a bad thing.
BTW...the 5th string didn't do too much for me (it was a C), maybe
if it was a bottom B.
Ashley
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| 665.9 | Fred Pastorelli ..or Jaco Abatorius..? | BARI01::MASELLI | | Wed Jun 08 1988 06:14 | 26 |
| Fred,
Thanks for your reply (serius reply..) and asap I *must* try to
use the effect that you suggest (after string swap..Fender are best?).
Yes, Jaco playing in Weather R. before midi, and I won't use midi
for playing it.
My problem was started when I playing "Donna Lee" because the notes
was the same, but the sound...no comment (sigh).
I'm sure that practice come first of all, but if you have a tool
for help (effect), the results come just a little before (..may be..).
Thanks again Fred (or Jaco ?..)
Try too fast (on second key) :B-B-G-A-G-Ab-G-D-D#-D-E-D da capo
ciao ciao
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| 665.10 | JACO -THE KING IS DEAD,LONG LIVE THE KING! | HAMER::KRON | | Mon Nov 28 1988 15:22 | 41 |
| DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYONE'S FEELINGS BUT JACO'S SOUND WAS
LARGELY FROM HIS TECHNIQUE BUT ALSO YOU NEED YOUR NUT FILED
(SOUND'S PAINFUL EH??11)ALMOST DOWN TO THE FRETBOARD IN
ORDER TO GET THAT GROWLY SINGING SOUND---I READ THAT IN
PERCY JONES' ARTICLE (G.P./BRAND X) AND WHEN I BUILT MY
FRETLESS BASS,PULLED THE LITTLE SUCKERS OUT WITH FLUSH-
CUTS I FOUND OUT HE WAS RIGHT.ROUND WOUND STRINGS HELP
VERY,VERY MUCH ALSO
REGARDS, HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOUALL SOON REGARDING ANY NEAT-O
BASSES,GUITARS,OR ON BOARD SIGNAL PROCESSING--
------BILL K.
< Note 665.9 by BARI01::MASELLI >
-< Fred Pastorelli ..or Jaco Abatorius..? >-
Fred,
Thanks for your reply (serius reply..) and asap I *must* try to
use the effect that you suggest (after string swap..Fender are best?).
Yes, Jaco playing in Weather R. before midi, and I won't use midi
for playing it.
My problem was started when I playing "Donna Lee" because the notes
was the same, but the sound...no comment (sigh).
I'm sure that practice come first of all, but if you have a tool
for help (effect), the results come just a little before (..may be..).
Thanks again Fred (or Jaco ?..)
Try too fast (on second key) :B-B-G-A-G-Ab-G-D-D#-D-E-D da capo
ciao ciao
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