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653.1 | Go For It! | ELESYS::JASNIEWSKI | I know from just bein' around | Wed Jun 01 1988 08:55 | 35 |
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Ideally, the guitar should be completely symetrical, when it
comes down to the *effective mass* seen at each end, by the vibrating
string. Sitars, known for their un-amplified sustain, sometimes
have the "gord" resonator at the headstock, but not only for the
additional phonic cavity...
O.K. At the pickup end, well, you have the whole body weight that
the bridge is coupled into. At the machine head end, it's kinda light
in comparison. Fret the strings with your fingers at the "Cmaj"
bar chord position, and there a considerable chunck of neck *about*
the point where the strings are fretted. Perhaps the mechanical
situation is balanced there...
Playing "open" chords down at the machine head end, there's
a possibility that some of the strings may be outta balance. This
will definately effect the sustain, which is best in the ideal case
where both ends are hard coupled to an infinite mass. SO, you up
the ante of your guitar's physical approxamation of this, by bolting
on mass at the headstock.
Of course, it wont amount to much if in your style, say, you
happen to play only about the "C" position using all bar chords...
Kinda like the "Brass nut" product that was sposed to make open
strings sound brighter. Well, if you never happen to play open
strings...what good is it?
All around, though, most people play in "1st" position, using
open strings, and for this situation *both* the brass nut and the
additional mass bolted to the head stock would definately make an
improvement in just about any guitar. Kinda like having aluminum
rims on your bicycle, it's just generally better - but for an
opposite reason!
Joe Jas
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653.2 | I'd like to try !! | PLDVAX::JACQUES | | Thu Jun 02 1988 09:13 | 33 |
| I started note 486 after seeing the "Fathead" ad in Guitar Player
magazine. I wasn't able to drum up much interest. No one wants to
add them to their guitars. I can see not wanting to alter a nice
new instrument or an old original vintage instrument, but on a guitar
that is already modified to the hilt, why not try it. I have considered
getting one to try on my Telecaster, but I believe they are only
available through mail order. My only question is how thick is this
metal plate. I have Sperzel locking tuners on my guitar, and the
top and bottom halves of the machines have to thread together. I
would be concerned if this plate is any more than 1/16" thick.
Also the Sperzels have a pin that sticks into a hole in the back
of the headstock. The Fathead would have to be made to accomidate
these tuners, or I'd be drilling.
I guess what people don't realize is that they don't necessarily
have to alter their guitar or drill holes in it to install this
device. You simply remove the tuners and place the plate between
the tuners and the headstock. As long as you get a Fathead that
is made for your guitar/tuner combination it should bolt on in
a matter of minutes. You decide you don't like it, remove it, no
holes or ugly scars. It only cost $25. Your not out any large sum
of money.
Judging from the ad in guitar player magazine, they look kinda funky.
If you like to be unique, you won't find many other guitars with
one on it. If you have a guitar that you wouldn't mind trying it on,
go for it.
Mark Jacques
PS let me know if anyone finds a store in the Marlboro/Worcester
general area that carries Fatheads.
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653.3 | a choice | MARKER::BUCKLEY | William J. Buckley | Thu Jun 02 1988 10:37 | 11 |
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Well, as far as putting something on the headstock to increase sustain
and eliminate deadspots...
If I was to go thru the trouble, I'd probably go with the Sustainiac
unit rather than a fathead.
The fathead is def the cheaper route to go, but if you want to
go the extreme route, the sustainiac does the job!
wjb
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653.4 | You can try this for less | TYFYS::MOLLER | Vegetation: A way of life | Thu Jun 02 1988 15:24 | 9 |
| if you want to know what it will do for you, go down and get some
modeling clay & stick it onto your guitar neck, next to the tuning
keys. If you like what it does, find a hardware store that sells
brass plates (some hobby shops have them also) and make your own.
This should cost around $5.00. The help some guitars & make no
difference on others. The clay will tell you (since you are adding
mass in the same place that the Fat Head does).
Jens
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653.6 | | ZYDECO::MCABEE | Fingers don't work, mind plays on | Fri Jun 03 1988 11:01 | 6 |
| re: .5
Maybe the effect of sinking vibrations into the clay is negligible
compared to the effect of adding mass.
Bob
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653.7 | Testing, 1, 2, 3... | TYFYS::MOLLER | Vegetation: A way of life | Fri Jun 03 1988 16:09 | 16 |
| True, the modeling clay will act different than the Brass plate
will, however, the effect will be similar, and it will tell you
if the effort is worthwhile or not. The other benefit is that it
(the clay) often counteracts the tendancies of some guitar necks
(bass guitar necks in particular) to resonate at certain notes.
Once you find out roughly what addae mass it takes, you can design
your replacement Brass counterpart moree effectively. As I've mentioned
before, You can inprive the sound of many cheap violins by simply
sticking modeling clay on the headstock. Some Luthiers will do this
to find out what additional shaving is required within the violin
bodies (there was an article about this several years ago in the
Luthiers Guide Quarterly Magazine). I find that the Modeling clay
approach is a cheap, and effective way to find out if the proposed
modification is worth it of not.
Jens
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653.8 | I'll try the clay and post the results | GLIND1::VALASEK | | Fri Jun 03 1988 16:45 | 14 |
| Thanks,
I'll give the clay a try, and post what difference it makes. It
seems a reasonable thing to try anyway. My son has plenty of clay
around, I'll borrow some of his. The thing I liked about FATHEADS
were that they are simple, and cheap. I don't want a bunch of batteries
and cords to add sustain. I also realize that I may get an inferior
product, but to me the simplicity is worth it.
I'll let you know.....
Regards,
Tony
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653.9 | I tried the clay | GLIND1::VALASEK | | Wed Jun 15 1988 13:15 | 9 |
| I tried the clay and it did add some sustain, but a very small amount.
Nothing really that noticeable, It also seemed more evident on the
lower strings (EAD). This may have to do with the fact that I was
using an electric (Fender Strat) for the test with a Rockman Sustainor
on distort. Maybe this idea works better on acoustic instruments.
Regards,
Tony
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