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620.1 | models..... | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | | Wed May 04 1988 12:48 | 17 |
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Roland JC Series
JC120 120watts,dual channel,chorus, 2 12" Speakers
JC77 80watts. 2 10" speakers
JC55 50watts
JC120h 120 watts,head only version(single channel)
All these are stereo amps as mentioned by Roland. As far as
reliabilty is concerned,I'd have to ask around,but I'd suspect it
would be better than a GK 250rl/ml series and probably more roadworthy.
I didn't care for the distortion either,which is probably it's
biggest downfault.....
Rick
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620.2 | more on Roland JC series | DRUID::MARIANI | | Wed May 04 1988 14:08 | 20 |
| I got the JC55 a couple of months ago and I like it. I don't use
it for gigs as it only has 8" speakers and 50 watts but it's a nice
amp. The distortion unit DOES leave much to be desired. I don't
use it. The nice features of the amp include the "line out" on
the back that lets you move the other side of the chorus to another
amp for greater seperation and more sound. I'm gonna try using
it at some of the smaller clubs we play and see if it'll cut the
gig.
Just for the record.... when .1 says that the JC120 is 120 watts,
he means that there are two separate 60 watt amps in the head.
That's what give the amp its great chorus. In the same way,
my JC55 has two 25 watt amps, not one 50 watt. All in all it's
a nice amp, but if I was gonna spend the money again, I'd probably
get the Peavey version instead. Much less money and a much nicer
sounding distortion unit.
Ted
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620.4 | JC-50 | AQUA::ROST | That's right, Sam | Wed May 04 1988 17:24 | 14 |
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There is also a (discontinued) JC-50, which has one speaker (a 12"
I think) with a mono 50 watt amp.
The preamp output, however, is stereo (because of the chorus).
Probably not of much interest to anyone 8^) 8^) 8^)
The JC-120 combo unit has a preset chorus, BTW...the speed and depth
controls only affect the vibrato. The newer JC-55 and JC-77 speed
and depth controls *do* control the chorus...not sure about JC-120
heads.
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620.5 | It's been reviewed in other notes so you might wanna look for them | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | The height of MIDIocrity | Wed May 04 1988 17:47 | 44 |
| I have a JC-120. I really like, but probably that's because it so well
suits my own peculiar needs.
I don't care about the distortion. I use a two-amp setup. The other
amp is a Boogie and I use the Boogie when I want an overdrive sound.
I use the JC as a clean amp. One thing it does very well is that you
can push the volume way up and still stays fairly clean. Depending
on how you intend to use it, that's either a blessing or a curse.
I use it for:
o Clean sounds
o Effects (all reverb and DDL goes to the JC even if the
direct sound is from the Boogie)
o the JC chorus sound
AND....
since I also play keyboards, it also functions as my keyboard
amp. Both channels have low and high inputs so I use the low for the
guitar and the high for the keyboards and run both in stereo which
I'm very big on (stereo).
It also has a decent reverb, but I use my SRV-2000 for that most
of the time.
BTW, be warned that if you listen to the JC-120 in chorus mode you can
really be "tricked" into getting it. The stereo chorus on it really
does sound heavenly, but if you haven't run things in stereo before you
may not know that you can probably get that same kind of spacial
effect using ANY stereo DDL and setup. It's just nice that Roland
put it all into one amp.
Only reservations about it are: I have tapes of the two gigs I've
played since getting it. The Boogie always sounds great, it seems
easy to mic. The JC doesn't seem to mic very well. It always sounds
thin. It's hard to believe that you couldn't find correct for that
though if you like the basic sound.
So, I'd say if you're gonna use the JC in conjunction with some other
amp, it's the best! However, if you're plugging right into the JC
and are looking to it for tonal variety, forget it.
db
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620.7 | Carvin's Not Bad | RUGRAT::POWELL | Dan Powell/274-6608 | Thu May 05 1988 09:56 | 10 |
| I'll admit I'm not big on their guitars, but their amps are pretty
decent. A friend of mine has a seven year old X100 self contained
model that really screams.
It has a single 12" Electro Voice speaker, and is housed in an oak
cabinet. The Carvin has two channels (foot-switchable), reverb,
and a 5 or 6 band equalizer. It's for sale, and it's never been
beat on. Send me mail if you want more info.
Dan (FREEBE::POWELL)
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620.8 | GK...a lot of amp IMO | MARKER::BUCKLEY | We Will Rock You! | Thu May 05 1988 10:34 | 13 |
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Re -2
Larry, I was surprised to hear that your GK sounds harsh at high
volumes. My GK sounds better at higher volumes (no, really!)...
a lot warmer than at a lower volume because the bass has kicked
in.
I've bee nshopping around for amps of late and I haven't found anything
yet that has the quality of the GK. I heard but didn't try a new
Fender twin and that sounded great, but it was the only one.
wjb
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620.10 | a jarred memory! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | We Will Rock You! | Thu May 05 1988 11:05 | 17 |
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Re: .9
LV,
Oh yeah... just remembered:
Yup, its the GK. Your analysis reminded me of the same sound I get
sometimes. I usually turn the 8K knob to about 3 o clock. I crank
the other 3 (2.5K, 500hz, and 120hz) all the way up. Then, I use
a graphic eq and pull down the 4K area all the way and boost the
area between the bass and lower midrange (200-1K, peaking at 800hz).
This way I get a thick boogish sound.
Sorry, I just take some things for granted at times!
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620.12 | Amp is bright, may or may not need work. | MARKER::BUCKLEY | William J. Buckley | Thu May 05 1988 15:22 | 10 |
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Well, maybe the GK needs work (with that recent hum prob, or whatever
happened at that gig), but moreso i was saying that yes, the amp
is rather inherently bright sounding. I forgot what the thing sounded
like without the eq fix.
an eq does help out a lot!
good luck,
wjb
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620.14 | Was it something I said? | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | The height of MIDIocrity | Tue May 10 1988 15:20 | 8 |
| Wow! Quite a surprise. I got the impression from .6 that you had
decided against the JC-120.
How does your amp match with the review I gave? (Be honest, I'm just
interested in your impressions and won't be insulted if they're
different from mine.)
db
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620.15 | JC120 stereo ? | PLDVAX::JACQUES | | Wed May 11 1988 08:53 | 9 |
| Larry,
Now all you need is a Roland GP8, and your in business. By the
way, is the JC120 a stereo amp? Does it have 2 separate power amps?
I noticed your note about speaker impedence. It sounds like you have
decided to use the speakers in the JC120 for one channel, and the
Marshall cab for the other channel, right ?
Mark Jacques.
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620.17 | on the Peavey small chorus amp | DRUID::MARIANI | | Wed May 11 1988 14:21 | 16 |
| RE: .3
Peavey has a version of the small (2-8" speakers) chorus amp.
It seems to do a lot more than the JC-55, but doesn't sound quite
as nice. I've heard that this is because the JC has cleaner
speakers. I dunno... the PV has a good distortion sound with
their "saturation" effect. It also comes with reverb, chorus,
"thick" switch (mid boost), "presence" (Very high boost), "lead"
(high boost) and channel switching capabilities. I like it, especially
when used with the JC for a stereo sound. I don't know if the
JC is considered a "true" stereo amp or not. The PV has two
35 watt amps which is just what I need for playing small clubs.
(also, the PV has a foot switch for channels, reverb, and chorus.
The JC needs three separate switches.) Good Luck,
Ted
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620.18 | Peavey Studio Chorus amps | ANGORA::JACQUES | | Wed May 11 1988 15:15 | 13 |
| The Peavey amp refered to in .17 is the Peavey Studio Chorus 70.
With 35w/side and 8" speakers it is probably no louder than the
250ml, in fact, less powerful. Peavey also offers 2 more powerful
versions of the studio chorus amp. I think they are the Studio Chorus
120 with 60w/side and the Studio Chorus 400 with 200w/side. Could
be wrong on the 120 but I know for sure they have the 200w version.
I have looked at them, and for solid state amps, they aren't bad,
but I am convinced that FOR MY PURPOSES, a tube amp is the only
way to fly.
Mark J.
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620.19 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | It's nicer than Betty Monroe had! | Wed Apr 14 1993 15:50 | 8 |
| I had a religious experience last night playing thru a JC-120.
The thing was ROCKIN!! Whadda tone! Took me back to me Rings
worship days! 8^0
Actually, I had the amp almost wide open (vol-9, treb-6, mid-8,
bass-10), so it was giving some great edgy gain ... I forget,
the treble boost may have been on...the chorus was def. on. I
loved the sound...
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620.20 | Ouch | GOES11::G_HOUSE | I came, I saw, I left... | Wed Apr 14 1993 16:14 | 4 |
| Geez man, a JC120 on nine?? You musta been killing insects and small
animals within about a half mile radius.
gh
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620.21 | | DABEAN::REAUME | light 2 dark,dark 2 light | Wed Apr 14 1993 18:26 | 11 |
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I remember seeing a JC-120 distortion mod advertised in the back
pages of GP for quite some time (might still be). It supposed to take
care of the (supposedly) wimpy stock distortion sound.
Hearing Buckley rave about a Roland JC-120 sounds weird to me. Of
course I never thought he'd be playing a Peavey either! Maybe this
JC-120 has the modification? No Ibanez Tube Screamer snuck in there,
did it?
-B{}{}M-
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620.22 | Those babies can really move air when cranked | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | My other PC is a Mac | Thu Apr 15 1993 12:59 | 16 |
| re: A JC-120 on 9.
Last time I had my JC-120 anywhere near 9 was with "Deceptive
Resolution" at a DECjam. Onstage volume was kind of *LOUD* due
to the "duel guitar threat" of Kevin McD and Buck.
Anyway, I'm playing thru the amp (keyboards) and all of a sudden I hear
this MASSIVE *** BOOMsssshhhhh *** and then I can't hear anything.
I look back and see - NO AMP!!!!
The air pressure coming out of that baby was enough to blow it off the
BACK of the riser that it was on! And being that it has a plate
reverb, when that sucker hit the ground the boom was rather loud.
db
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620.23 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | sunlight | Thu Apr 15 1993 13:20 | 2 |
| Well, it was loud, but maybe I'm used to (or deaf) the 5150 and
it's definition of LOUD?!? Anyways, it was a great sound, nonetheless.
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620.24 | Prices | SSDEVO::LAMBERT | OSF/AXP weenie, and proud of it | Thu Apr 15 1993 14:29 | 7 |
| FYI, I seem to remember seeing JC-120s on the back pages of Musician's
Friend and/or AMS catalogs recently, at reduced prices. Still not "blow
outs", and still pretty expensive, but they seem to be coming down in
price.
-- Sam
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620.25 | thanks in advance | POWDML::BUCKLEY | sunlight | Thu Apr 15 1993 14:46 | 1 |
| If anyone sees these pups at a good price, lemme know,. ok?
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620.26 | | HEDRON::DAVEB | just 'cuz you own the land, there's no unique hand floods the dam | Fri Apr 16 1993 09:18 | 7 |
| Yeowie I'm a howling! Buck with a Roland!
thruthfully, it's probably a natural progression from the PV..
hee hee
db who thinks the clean/chorus on those is pretty cool
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620.27 | There's also a JC120-H apparently ... | OCTAVE::65180::VIGNEAULT | Java-Man | Fri Apr 16 1993 09:58 | 8 |
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I saw in ad in an older Want Advertiser, someone selling a JC120-H
It said it had a better distortion sound and was louder than the
regular JC120. Maybe you were playing through one of these.
JC120's do loud & clean very well, but not dirty too well
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620.28 | Use Yer Head | TECRUS::ROST | Don't fry bacon in the nude | Fri Apr 16 1993 10:18 | 3 |
| The -H means it's a head only version.
Brian
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620.29 | | POWDML::BUCKLEY | Sleeping Beauty Land Theme Park | Mon Jun 07 1993 16:03 | 5 |
| I'm still looking for a JC-120 amp!!
Anyone with any clues on a good amp? Dean Hamel, you still out there
in notesland??
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