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534.1 | try this | ERLANG::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Thu Mar 17 1988 14:19 | 17 |
| My suggestion would be to stop thinking of your music as a means
of impressing other people. I get into such "slumps" myself if
I start comparing myself to other musicians, or thinking about making
a name for myself. Then I ask myself, "Do you want to play music
to be a superstar, or do you want to play to enjoy yourself and
share your enjoyment with others?" If you look at music as just
as means of feeling and sharing the joy of life, it stops being
so serious and competitive. I know there are thousands, maybe millions,
of musicians out there who could blow me away with their little
fingers. So what? If I'm happy doing what I do, who cares?
As far as I'm concerned, I come to work to get a job done. When I'm
playing music, it should be a pleasure. I think if you look at it
this way you'll find that you play more, enjoy more, and will
ultimately be more creative.
- Ram
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534.2 | really! | MARKER::BUCKLEY | Rocker Built for Speed! | Thu Mar 17 1988 14:26 | 21 |
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Dennis, you? in a slump??
no way!
Whenever I get in a slump, it usually because I'm bored with the
guitar, so I find somthing that will make it unboring. For me, I
start listening to other sources. I recently went thru a playing
slump in the dead of winter (maybe a weather factor here too), I
have been taking banjo lessons since then and I am out the that
slump period. I'm not really taking banjo lessons, I don't really
like the instrument, but I'm in there with my guitar trying to cop
his technique and phrasing and its cool. They are similar and different
and it makes me look at the guitar in a different light.
So, maybe try somthing like that.
wjb
ps - violin and piano lessons are suggestions for vicious slumps!
;^)
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534.3 | a mongoloid playing a strat just wouldn't fit!:^) | FIDDLE::CROWLEY | ere lies David St. 'ubbins, and why not! | Thu Mar 17 1988 14:42 | 21 |
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When I get in a slump I usually try to concentrate on another
instrument. I'll dive heavily into my keyboards, or pick up
my classical guitar and struggle through some Fernando Sor
exercises (I don't practise them anywhere near as much as I
used to). Other times, I might try working on my voice alot
more. Anything to get away from the electric for a while.
I usually find that when I'm in a slump on the electric,
I'm NOT on my acoustics...just because I look at the two in
a totally different light. In the meantime, I never TOTALLY
stop playing my electric. I'll at least pick it up and
do some scales etc. for a while just to keep my hands aquainted.
re .2 playing the banjo on the electric....hmmmmmm.....sounds,
uh....interesting. Definately a different perspective on things!
:^)
Ralph
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534.4 | Dump the slump! | FTMUDG::HENDERSON | | Thu Mar 17 1988 15:41 | 11 |
| Playing slumps, sometimes I think I go through one of these
once a week!:^} When I need to break out of a slump, I try playing
solos written for other instruments such as fiddle tunes or sax
solos. Because my technique centers around the guitar specifically,
I find that trying to play a sax solo on the guitar challanging
as well as different enough to get me out of the doldrums.
If this fails, I go out and buy $400.00 worth of new effects
and signal processors. :^) After that, who can afford to be in a
slump!
Don
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534.5 | Take a Lesson | CLOSUS::JENSEN | | Thu Mar 17 1988 18:42 | 9 |
| Ah yes, the infamous slump. I just worked out of a real nasty one by taking a
few weeks of guitar lessons from a new instructor (not my usual one). The
approaches he showed me were new to me and lit up some avenues I hadn't thought
of. I've since gone back to my regular instructor and the slump is gone.
This is the only time I've ever tried a guitar lesson to get out of a slump and
it worked great! Probably won't work next time -:).
steve
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534.6 | Slump, Slump, Who's got the slump? | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Greg House - CSC/CS | Thu Mar 17 1988 19:39 | 15 |
| Did someone say SLUMP? This happens to me every now and then.
It's definately an attitude problem, since I don't play well enough
to say it's my playing...
Perhaps it's just time to back off on the playing a little and study
some about music (I don't know your background, so maybe that's
not applicable for you), it helped me.
Another thing that I've done is buy another guitar. Maybe it's
just a personal thing, but I 'hear' different things from different
guitars and find that a different one will spark something in me.
Maybe it's like someone in a previous reply said...you can't afford
to be in a slump (great line).
Greg
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534.7 | jump out of this slump | SASE::MOREAU | My name is Dennis I'm a rockoholic | Fri Mar 18 1988 09:10 | 13 |
| Well...at least I know I'm not alone ;-). I find all of your
suggestions/solutions quite applicable and helpful.
Recently I've been playing with a hot sax player. Instead of playing
guitar oriented licks, I've been picking up sax oriented licks. The
challenge has helped me get out of my slump. It's also helped me
learn to do some interesting things with whole tone scales :-)
Someone also mentioned new toys, which could cause me digress to
a whole new topic! I NEED A NEW GUITAR!!!!
Thanks
Dennis
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534.8 | New toys !!! | SAMURI::COOPER | Jeff Cooper - System Mangler 354-7611 | Fri Mar 18 1988 10:43 | 13 |
| I gotta agree with .4 Buy a new toy !
Seriously though, I've had this slump deal myself, and also with
the band I'm in. Did ya ever go to practice, and you play the same
old stuff, and everybody gets a little too impatient (or whatever)
? SO, you try to work up some new material; you work on this new
item a couple of times, and somebody gets frustrated, and sez "f***
it !
How about some ideas here ? Speaking of new toys, check out the
note I'm about to write....
Jeff
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534.9 | | RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVID | Wilderness king of da' bluz | Fri Mar 18 1988 10:49 | 8 |
| While the slump is usually a sad time for me (and apparantly everyone
else) the time just after a slump is one of the most productive
times I experience...so while the slump sucs,, I look forward to
the growth that follows...
When in the slump mode I find it easiest to just play slow blues...:-)
dave
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534.10 | Upside down and backwards | WLDWST::JENSEN | | Fri Mar 18 1988 11:34 | 9 |
| I try to sit in with guys that have a different style or method.
I sat in with a guy that played a right handed (strung for a righty)
left handed and to top if off he used to be a drummer and couldn't
help adding a few slaps in there. I started trying a few of his
cord prgressions an techniqes and I found some stuff that worked
well for me.
Mark
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534.11 | YA KNOW...IT COULD BE WORSE! | SALEM::ABATELLI | | Fri Mar 18 1988 12:16 | 27 |
| Huh... playing slumps???? boy.... I've had years of experience with
this subject. I was told by a much older musician than myself to
use it to MY best advantage. My problem was that I was bored!
Completely bored with the music I was playing. The music,musicians
and the same old bar circuit just didn't thrill me anymore. Anyway,
in regards to the advice I was given, if you're in a down and depressed
mood, play some down and dirty blues, but then progres to some style
that brings you up alittle, not alot, but just enough to make you
feel alittle bit better. You can't break out of a slump quickly,
nor should you! Take your time, but realize that you'll feel better
about your playing real soon. Maybe it's just a moon-phase or something
in the air, I don't know why it happens, but IF this doesn't
work...... then get your VISA or MASTERCARD and buy something for
yourself.... you'll feel better about it! I like the ideas about
a new teacher, buying new toys, a new guitar will certainly help
you out of a slump. Maybe you're not happy about your sound?
Newer/older amp maybe with a different tone to make things work
for you. My solution may not work for the next guy. It works for
me, (most of the time).
Cheer up! It could be worse ya know. How about your first REAL
gig at the Centrum and you break two strings in the first solo
of the first song and you don't have a back-up guitar.... NOW
THAT WOULD REALLY PUT YOU IN A SLUMP!
:^)
TOMATO-FRED
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534.12 | so I'm not alone after all | POLAR::CALDWELL | | Mon Mar 21 1988 10:46 | 7 |
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Two cents worth from the Great White North.............
I can identify with playing slumps too. A cure that really works
for me is to get out and play/jam with different people. The different
mind sets and individual styles of other players always inspires
me.
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534.13 | Get out of the house ! | SAMURI::COOPER | Jeff Cooper - System Mangler 354-7611 | Mon Mar 21 1988 10:49 | 4 |
| I was gonna say, just get out and gig somewhere ! That will always
cheer you up !
Jeff
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534.14 | another cover plucker. | DRUID::MARIANI | | Mon Mar 21 1988 11:02 | 28 |
| I know just what you mean about slumps! When they hit, I usually
try to go back to basics. I'm a firm believer in rudiments as a
way to keep your chops in shape. When I can't seem to make myself
happy with my playing (either from boredom, or from getting sloppy)
I go back and put some time in the woodshed with the ol' scales
arpeggios (sp?) and chord inversions. Invariably, I hear something
in the exercises that I didn't notice before and I'll slip that
into my solo repertoire (such as it is...).
At other times, I'll just start switching styles to see what happens.
Try putting a country solo in "Moondance" and see what happens.
It may not seem like it would work, but you'd be surprised at what
can happen when you don't limit yourself to "accepted" styles for
any particular song.
I have to disagree with the idea that buying new stuff is going
to help you break out of a slump. It may work for a while, but
it seems to be a bad substitute for a little more work with the
ax you have. (or effects, etc...) I think the folks that talk about
working on another instrument are right. Doing this will force
you to think about music in other terms than the guitar. This may
or may not help your guitar chops but it'll help your mental attitude
for sure, and since you play with your brain, not your fingers...
Of course, if you can cop a hot sax solo on the guitar, it's GOTTA
help keep the fingers limber and teach some new patterns in the
bargain.
-TED
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534.15 | heavy strings and higher action wake you up | MIZPAH::CLARK | | Mon Mar 21 1988 12:15 | 10 |
| Change the way you have the guitar set up. for a longtime I had
.008's on my Strat. I (unconciously) developed a style which
used a lot of hammer-ons and pull-offs. It sounded okay, but
the range of licks gets kind of limited. So I raised the action
up a fair amount and put .010's on. In about a week I felt comfortable
with the new set up, and I have completely broken out of the style
I was playing in. I think your mind/body adjusts to the way guitars
are set up, and your playing style is partly a reaction to that.
-Dave
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534.16 | The Ted Nugent setup | SRFSUP::MORRIS | PMRC will censor YOUR music! | Mon Mar 21 1988 12:51 | 10 |
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One thing that works with both guitar and drum slumps is to change
your setup. If you've been playing through distortion boxes, take
'em out of the path and go with choruses and phasers, an andy summers
type sound. Vice-versa too. Sometimes what really helps for me,
since I use tons of effects, is to go straight into the amp.
Or go out and buy a Lexicon for dedicated guitar processing. ;*}
Ashley in smogland
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534.17 | another $.02 worth... | BMT::BAUER | Evan Bauer,SWS NYO, 352-2385 | Wed Mar 23 1988 10:17 | 29 |
| It seems we have stumbled on to a universal problem. In addition
to many of the suggestions in previous replies (some of which I
knew, some of which I have applied this week to try and break out
of a slump) let me put in an acoustic player's two cents worth:
Even with less control of the guitars action (unless one risks really
screwing it up) you can still change strings to something weird
(or at least different). I just went from normal tension Augustine
Blue's to high tension Sovarez (?) for just a couple of weeks -- I
didn't like them, but they made me feel the instrument differently
and concentrate on the left hand which had gotten sloppy.
Trying something fairly different -- fingerstyle blues or flamenco
are favorites of mine -- that makes you look at the instrument
differently.
Accompanying a singer -- almost any of them who aren't instrumentalists
would like to sing with accompaniment and are likely to think you
are pretty good (because they don't know that those licks you played
this evening are the only ones you have.) In particular, accompanying
someone else's voice (a necessity for me because only my 5 year old
doesn't mind my singing) requires you to play their interpretation
of the music -- my slumps tend to come when I think everything I
do sounds the same.
None of this stuff is all that different from previous replies,
but maybe helps for others out there who play amp free.
- Evan
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534.18 | Here the tax on the previous $.02 | BARTLS::MOLLER | Vegetation: A way of life | Wed Mar 23 1988 11:41 | 10 |
| I swap guitars - I don't like to diddle with the set ups of the
strings or pickups. But all my instruments have different personalities
and that helps. I usually practice on an acoustic, and play live
on a solid body electric. Sounds odd, but the acoustic forces me
to stick to the guitar only issues, where as the electric allows
me to step out & play with the amplifier & my various stomp boxes.
I actually set the guitars up to feel very similar, so they transistion
is not as major as it seems.
Jens
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534.19 | Learn a new tune a day... | COOKIE::WITHERS | SN*W is a 4-letter word! | Wed Mar 23 1988 13:59 | 13 |
| I'm not a guitar player (so what am I doing here? :-), but to get
out of playing slumps, I do four things...
I'll pick up another instrument, or
I'll play music with spouse and/or friends, or
I go to a concert and get psyched again, or
I revert to a discipline that I started but don't keep to as well
as I'd like - I set my goal at learning a new tune a day...
BobW
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534.20 | 10 year slump? | STAR::KMCDONOUGH | | Wed Mar 23 1988 15:03 | 20 |
| If this is a slump, it's been a long one.
Last night my GB band started working on an old ZZ Top tune, "La
Grange". Something to make a little noise with. Anyway, we were using
a tape of La Grange that I had made with an R+R band in 1978. When my
old solo came up, it was very clear to me that I couldn't play it
anymore. I was much faster then and had better, smoother chops.
Now, I don't play as much now as I did then, but I guess I never
realized how much I had slipped. Sure, I do many things better now
than I could do then, and my range of styles is broader. But when I
tried to recreate my own solo, the guys in the band had a few laughs at
my expense.
So, I am now in the odd position of re-learning and practicing my own
solo. I don't mind being blown into the weeds by someone else,
in fact I usually like listening to players who are better than
I am. Being out-played by myself is another story!
Kevin
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534.21 | Speed Slump? | ERASER::BUCKLEY | Rocker Built for Speed! | Wed Mar 23 1988 15:55 | 11 |
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re -1
I can relate to that feeling of not being able to play what you
used to. I usta practice a lot of fast (!) staccato picking
ala Malmsteen (I call it flutter picking). I recorded a few solos
in the studio with technique. Now, every once and a while someone will
ask me to play them. I've long since stopped that type of practice.
Weird, ain't it?
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534.22 | Must be the position of the planets | BARTLS::MOLLER | Vegetation: A way of life | Wed Mar 23 1988 16:23 | 9 |
| There are good nights and bad nights. Depending on my mood I can
do many things that are otherwise impossible for me to do normally.
Recordings have proven that very clearly to me. Playing in my studio
is tough because of it, hard to get in the mood when you have to
watch meters, & start & stop / restart / stop etc.
No matter what, my best guitar solo work occurs to a random audence,
and only rarely on tape....
Jens
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534.23 | Take a break | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | MIDI DJ | Thu Mar 24 1988 11:58 | 12 |
| Gee, this may seem kinda controversial, and yet I'm sorta surprised
that no one mentioned it (or I didn't notice).
My slumps usually amount to me just being burned out. What do I
do - I TAKE A BREAK.
Sure, you lose a little of the feeling in your fingers, but I find
that I come back with a freshness and renewed sense of enthusiasm
that can be very dramatic. The few weeks after I start playing
again tend to be very good times to write really "fresh" music.
db
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534.24 | "Reach for a new horizon" | DECXPS::GWILLIAMS | | Fri Dec 08 1989 05:47 | 17 |
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I have found a good way to break out of a slump is to try a differnt
tuning. After your tuned different go try and play some of the things
you were just playing. Your positons will change differently and
your mind and fingers will have to adjust. (Ex.) Try running a D major
scale with both E's tuned to D and your B string tuned to C.
I have found tuning differently helps me get out of a slump and
hopefully it will help you.
Take hold of the flame,
R.C.
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