Conference napalm::guitar

    I played a Kramer last week, it had a nice tone and was very
    comfortable. If I needed (yuk yuk) another acoustic I'd certainly
    be considering something like it. I also had played a Washburn several
    years ago...compared to the Kramer, (keep in mind the time
    differential) I felt the Washburn ws considerably better...or that
    may just be my memory being faulty again...
    
    dbII

    re: .1  Was the Washburn one of the thin body types?  Also, by "time
    differential" do you mean that today the Washburn might be better?
    Or worse?
    					-- joe.

    I remember the Washburn as being better than the Kramer...but I
    played the washburn 3 years ago and the Kahler two weeks ago...I'm
    also less than impressed by most Kramers (good but not great) and
    am highly impressed with Washburn, and have been for ten years or
    so...yes it was a thinbody...
    
    dave

    If you're looking for a thin-body acoustic (which can easily have
    a pickup installed) go to Mac Duff's. He's got an INCREDIBLE Guild
    there. It looks like an ES-335 but it's hollow and has a round sound-
    hole. It has a flamed maple neck and back and a sunburst finish.
    The action was also great. He was asking $600 + case. I was IMPRESSED.

    I currently play a fenix acoustic which is pretty thin. I cant remember
    the model, but it plays really nicly (I prefer it to the Yamaha thins)
    and sounds really nice through my rig (Peavy Bandit, GSP5 and Yamaha
    R100). 
    
    The only problem I do have is it is quite quite unless running through
    the rig. Mind you that's nit too much of a problem !!!
    
    
    
    
    
    Linsey

    I just got a good buy on a used Ferrington acoustic-electric.  A
    drummer neighbor is moving and wants to unload a lot of his equipment.
    He brought over a black Ferrington which he used for banging around (a
    while ago; there was a thick coat of dust under the strings, which were
    themselves almost dead...)  I tuned it up and tried it unplugged -- not
    too bad for a Tele-sized body.  Plugged into the PA was another story;
    this guitar sounds wonderful!  Neck and action are quite acceptible,
    and the body has only a few faint scratches on it (no belt buckle
    scars, hooray!)  Bottom line: I got the guitar, gig bag and a leftover
    electronic tuner he had in the bag for a paltry $175 -- hell, if you
    subtract the price of the gig bag and the tuner, what you have left is
    not much more than what Stewart-Mac is charging for the Fishman pickup + 
    preamp *alone*....I sure ain't complainin'!
    
    And now, the questions:
    
    o - What type of pickup is in here? *Is* it a Fishman or equivalent?
    
    o - Does Kramer still make these Ferringtons?
    
    o - Is Kramer even in business? (The Kramer note speculated that they
    	were going Chapter 11 at some point....)
    
    o - How much did the Ferrington list for? (just curious)
    
    o - How did the "Ferrington" get its name? (again, just curious)
   
    The ONLY thing I'm not really pleased with is the hockey stick
    headstock, but I guess you get used to that in time....otherwise,
    I'm quite happy, since none of my regular acoustics have pickups in
    them.
    
    
    						-- Eric --
    
    P.S.  BTW, Betty (who is my wife as well as the bassist in our band)
    	was a true saint about this guitar....I really didn't think I
    	NEEDED it, until she pointed out that there were some nice
    	acoustic tunes she wanted us to try -- and then told me "Go for it!"
    	No wonder I married her...(*sigh*)..... 8^) 8^) 8^) 8^) 8^)
    

    
*    o - What type of pickup is in here? *Is* it a Fishman or equivalent?
 
	The pickup is not like a fishman,more like an Ovation style as
I remember. My ferrington had individual saddle pickups.(gold in color)

*    o - Does Kramer still make these Ferringtons?
 
Don't know,but I always see alot of them around for sale used.
    
*    o - How much did the Ferrington list for? (just curious)

I don't remember but I bought one used several years ago for $300,used it for 
a year in a rock band and then got rid of it. I had some feedback problems,
and intonation problems,but in general I saw it as a low quality guitar. 
    
*    o - How did the "Ferrington" get its name? (again, just curious)
   
Danny Ferrington was a guitar builder who came up with some of the first
models.

*   The ONLY thing I'm not really pleased with is the hockey stick
*    headstock, but I guess you get used to that in time....otherwise,
*    I'm quite happy, since none of my regular acoustics have pickups in
*    them.
    
If you think a Ferrington is impressive you ought to check out a Godin
tellie/acoustic with a Baggs pickup and preamp,it seriously blows the 
ferrington away. Of course the price reflects this also.
I did consider replacing the neck on my Ferrinton and decided the money 
would be better spent elsewhere.


						Rick


    

    Re. .7
    
    Thanks for the info!
    
    Can I equate the "plugged" acoustics this way (for me at least):
    
    Godin Tele w/Baggs pickup + preamp	= Mercedes-Benz
    
    Ferrington w/Ovation p.u. + preamp 	= Dodge Neon
    
    What I had before (NO pickups!)	= Schwinn (i.e. pedal-power!)
    
    					Grins!  =)
    
    					--Eric--

        Eric,
        
        You might want to look out for "Ferrington Guitars" - weird
        shaped hardcover book with a CD built into the cover,
        featuring various names playing Ferringtons. It listed for $50,
        ISBN 0-06-016897-8 (hardcover)  0-06-099268-9 (CD).
        
        I found it remaindered for $14.95 at Barnes & Noble
        
        Andy        
    

    Re. .9
    
    Thanks! I'll check it out.
    					--Eric--

    Re: last few
    
    Just a clarification...
    
    The book mentioned covers Danny Ferringtons original custom-built
    instruments, not the Kramer-built Ferrington models.
    
    Jim