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Conference napalm::guitar

Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

360.0. "MARTIN CLASSICAL VALUE?" by WLDWST::BROGDEN () Wed Oct 07 1987 17:50

      Does anyone out there know the value of a Martin classical guitar,
    gut string. With Mahogany body and rosewood neck. Style 00-18C,
    serial no. 261817. It's in really good shape, a couple of belt buckel
    scratches, straight neck. I may also wish to sell, or trade for
    a steel string acoustic.
    
    Bruce
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360.1Don't mean to be too negative, but...RHETT::MCABEESupport live musicWed Oct 07 1987 19:1915
    I'd be surprised if you could get more than about $500 for it. 
    I used to own one.  I paid full list price for it ($205) in 1965
    and sold it in 1977 for $350.  The 00-18C is an odd model that doesn't
    neatly fit in a popular category.  Martin calls it a classical,
    but classical guitarists don't.  It's a good size for general
    fingerpicking, but most (not all) fingerpickers prefer steel strings.  
    It might take a while to sell it.  Trading may be the best plan.
    
    The serial number sounds like about 1966.  It might help if you
    advertise it as an "older" Martin.  

    
    
    Bob
    
360.2Factory PriceWLDWST::BROGDENThu Oct 08 1987 15:227
     I found out that it's a 1970. And that a new one today (they still
    make them today) would set you back $1700.00 dollars. I called the
    Martin factory in Nazarith, Penn. and found out. The guy said I
    should be able to get around $700.00 for it. But I doubt that myself,
    it doesn't appear to be that much in demand.
    
    Bruce
360.3camp out at Music EmporiumRHETT::MCABEESupport live musicThu Oct 08 1987 16:129
    $700 sounds high to me.  It's a scarce enough commodity that a
    "fair market value" doesn't really mean much.  Yuh gets whut yuh
    can.
    
    I think your best target is folk fingerpickers.  Do you know any
    of Eric Schoenberg's students at the Music Emporium?  Eric recommends
    guitars of that size for fingerstyle.  
    
    Bob
360.4Never heard of itWLDWST::BROGDENMon Oct 12 1987 17:126
     I'm on the west coast. Never heard of the Music Emporium. I was
    told that around $400.00 to $500.00 is about right, by one of the
    dealers around here. It sounds so good I really don't know if I
    want to get rid of it.
    
    Bruce
360.5RHETT::MCABEESupport live musicWed Oct 14 1987 12:0917
Bruce,

I didn't realize you were on the left coast.  At least 90% of the Notes
folks seem to be in Mass. or New Hamster (I'm in Atlanta).  

For what it's worth, I wish I could have kept my 00-18C.  I never had an
instrument that was more fun to play.  If you ever want a nylon strung
guitar without the classical neck size, there's practically no other choice
- except, of course, the other 00-%%C Martins.  

If I weren't already up to my nose in instruments, I'd probably make you an 
offer.

For what it's worth again, some of the best fingerpickers prefer nylon strings
- Chet Atkins, Guy Van Duser, Duck Baker, etc.

Bob
360.6PossibilitiesCUJO::MALKOSKIFri Oct 16 1987 18:4112
    Bruce -
    I'm in Denver and know of someone who might be interested.
    I'll call him and see what he thinks.  He has an old Yamaha
    that is nylon string, and a newer (1983-4) Ovation steel
    string acoustic/electric single cutaway, which he hates.
    It was given to him by his mother but he really wants a
    nylon string ax.  He used to covet my 1920 00-28 and wanted to
    convert it to nylon.  Your guitar would fit him perfectly.
    I'll see what I can do.
    
    Paul 
    
360.7re: .6RHETT::MCABEESupport live musicFri Oct 16 1987 21:164
    I covet yer 1920 00-28, and I've never seen it.
    
    
    Bob
360.8One man's hate is another man's possibilityINK::FRISSELLEMon Oct 19 1987 18:5919
    RE: .6
    
    I'm not in Denver and I'm not interested in a classical at the moment.
    
    I am, however, interested in an acoustic/electric single cutaway (which
    I'll dub AESC for short).  Not finished shopping yet, though, and I'm
    gathering as much info as I can on AESCs.  The two that have so far
    been at the top of my list are Ovations -- Legend and Elite, with
    preference toward the latter (so far).
     
    Don't know anyone who has an Ovation AESC, though, and would love to
    hear your friend's reasons for hating his -- especially if he has
    either of these models (they're the top of the line).  If you know,
    please fill me in.  Does his have the 3-band EQ built in?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    steve

    
360.9Shopping for axesCUJO::MALKOSKITue Oct 20 1987 15:4820
    Well, I checked with my friend and he is not interested in the 00-18C.
    
    re: .8  - He wants to get rid of his Ovation Legend because he simply
    likes nylon string guitars.  His does NOT have the equalizer, but
    I have played it, both unamplified and plugged in and it plays great.
    It's not my first choice, but that is a very subjective view.  If
    you are in the market for either of those Ovation models, you might
    check with The Mandolin Brothers in Staten Island, NY.  They have
    a mail order store and their prices are VERY competitive.  By the
    way, there is the Adamas model that is even more expensive that
    the Elite.
    
    Finally, the 1928 00-28 is a wonderful guitar.  It is strung with
    Martin Marquis light guage strings and it finger picks like a dream.
    From a practical point, the original frets are still in the guitar
    and they are the T-type - not as comfortable as the newer frets,
    but that is one of the prices of old guitars.
    
    Paul
    
360.10ERASER::FRISSELLEWed Oct 21 1987 19:3832
    
    Re:.9 -- Thanks...that's pretty much what I'd suspected.  And you're
    absolutely correct about Mandolin Brothers.
    
    I apologize, by the way, for pursuing a tangent to the original
    topic here.  But I think this is about to come around full circle
    to the Martin, if you'll bear with me!
    
    First, to wrap up the Ovation tangent: I just found out about Mandolin
    Brothers a few weeks ago and called to have them send their latest
    listings -- they supply pictures of most of their stock, as well as
    descriptions and prices.  And you're right about "competitive." Their
    price for either Ovation Legend or Elite is about $700 (including
    hardshell case), as compared to about $1000 at all other places
    I've checked.
    
    They'll also ship it (or any other instrument) on approval!  Now
    that's service! I'm still considering that, although I think I'll
    opt for paying them a visit some day when I can get down to NY.
    I want to check out the Taylors and compare guitars back to back.
     
    And back to the Martin classical (base note): Mandolin Brothers is also
    noted as an authority on fretted instruments.  They get calls all the
    time from collectors and even other stores who need info on
    collectibles.  Also people who just want a price estimate on a given
    instrument. They even act as agent for people who want to buy or sell a
    particular type of instrument, so maybe it would be worth your while to
    give them a call. I don't have the number with me at the moment, but
    let me know if you're interested. 
    
    -steve
    
360.11No More Martins For SaleWLDWST::BROGDENThu Oct 22 1987 14:2410
    re .10
    
     Sure, if you can send me their address too! I'd like to send off
    for a catalog as well.
     The way everyones been talking, it sounds like maybe I should just
    hang onto the Martin. It does sound very nice, and it's not that
    difficult to finger. So for now I think I'll do just that and play
    it a little more. Thanks for everyones help and suggestions.
    
    Bruce
360.12drum roll, please...ERASER::FRISSELLETue Oct 27 1987 13:3212
    
    At last, here it is:
    
    			Mandolin Bros. Ltd.
    			629 Forest Avenue
    			Staten Island, NY
    				10310-2576
    
    			(718) 981-3226
    
    Stan Jay is the president/co-owner.
    
360.13On approvalDOODLE::GREENTue Nov 03 1987 21:418
    
    Shipping on approval means sending the money first, then getting
    the guitar, then deciding if you want it or not. Sounds great.
    
    But wait til you call them to try to send something back. It's not
    like returning something to Jordan Marsh, believe me.