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359.1 | Stage=Univox=Korg | AQUA::ROST | Fast and bulbous, tight also | Wed Oct 07 1987 16:27 | 8 |
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Stage was a brand name of the Univox/Korg company. Address anybody?
You might check with a local Korg dealer to see if they can order
replacements...good luck!!!
And buy *plenty* of tapes if you can.
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359.2 | Try Mr. C's in Marlboro.\ | MORRIS::JACQUES | | Wed Oct 07 1987 17:02 | 8 |
| I would call Mr. C's Music in Marlboro. Although they don't sell
Echoplex's, they are somewhat an authority on anything musical.
Jim has been around for many years and doesn't mind chatting
with people for hours on end if necessary about musical nostalgia.
Good Luck,
Mark Jacques
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359.3 | No salespitch please | ERASER::BUCKLEY | Wants More Marshalls! | Wed Oct 07 1987 17:22 | 7 |
| > I would call Mr. C's Music in Marlboro. Although they don't sell
> Echoplex's, they are somewhat an authority on anything musical.
While this *is* true to a certain degree, The guy at Mr. C's is
also in my opinion a true salesman (read bullsh*t artist). I don't
like people who give others a line just to try and sell them something,
and I feel Mr. C's is like that once too often.
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359.4 | last resort | ERLANG::SUDAMA | Living is easy with eyes closed... | Wed Oct 07 1987 17:22 | 9 |
| I suspect this must be an "endless-loop" cassette. I would strongly
advise against any efforts to try to replace the tape in the shell. The
way these things are wound is ungodly, and I doubt if you could ever
get it back the way it is designed. Definitely try to find
replacements. If all else fails, look into the possibility of modifying
(hacking) a regular endless-loop cassette tape to fit into the
machine.
- Ram
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359.5 | me agin. | CIMNET::JNELSON | Remember what the doormouse said.... | Wed Oct 07 1987 17:35 | 13 |
| re .4 - very good point, I've never actually seen the inside of
one... must be pretty ugly. it's not that long, though - only about
3-4 minutes at high speed. Probably still too much to bother with
, though. However, your idea about "hacking" (adaptors?) makes sense,
but doesn't really lend itself to a practical design.
somewhere between then and now, i remembered the name of the
manufacturer - UNICORD, from somewhere in New York.
(Univox/Korg=UNICORD?)
Jon
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359.6 | I had a Univox !! | MORRIS::JACQUES | | Fri Oct 09 1987 10:16 | 36 |
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Re .0 At first I thought you said you bought an echoplex, but
reading on I see you bought a Univox/korg unit. There is a big
difference between the two. I had a Univox unit years ago. It too
had an endless loop tape like a small 8 track. I bought several
replacement tapes for it when I bought it, (in Springfield Ma.
at a place called Accordiamart) but I could never get this thing
to work properly with any of the tapes. None of them would line
up properly. The delay would fade in and out, and sound slow
and garbled (like a dying 8 track tape). I had the tracking
adjusted where I bought it, but it still didn't work reliably.
I eventually gave it to my cousin (can't sell something that
doesn't work). I procastinated about buying an Echoplex unit for
years. The Roland space echo was comparable to the echoplex as well.
I recently bought a MidverbII which has delay up to 460ms. It suffices
quite nicely, and I no longer really need an Echoplex. But if I
could find one cheap, I just might grab it anyways. The echoplex
is more mechanical than others, with a sliding playback head for
adjusting the length of delay, but also has sound on sound, and over
a second of delay. The tapes were available in different lengths
so the sound on sound would continue as long as you wanted. They
were known to be fairly reliable, other than replacing tapes and
cleaning heads. Like most vintage musical equipment, you can replace
them with high tech versions of today, but you can't always get
the same sound. The high tech version will have advantages, but
will also have disadvantages.
I'm not sure if the AccordiaMart is even in business anymore.
They were in Springfield, Ma. about 10 years ago. I hope you have
better luck with your Univox Echo chamber than I had with mine !!
Mark Jacques
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359.7 | an echoplex by any other name.... | CIMNET::JNELSON | Remember what the doormouse said.... | Fri Oct 09 1987 10:51 | 24 |
| Mark,
I appreciate your reply, but now you've got me confused... I stated
in .4 that it is NOT a Univox/Korg, and in .1 that is IS an echoplex...
You said that there was a big difference between the two, I wouldn't
know (I've never heard of an echo chamber (as an effect)). My unit
does not have a sliding head (sounds like a silly concept), it has
variable speed control to accomplish the the same purpose. It also
has the "sound on sound" effect you talked about, but it's really
pretty useless for performance - if you record and playback at
different speeds, the playback won't be in tune with your guitar.
It's about 5"x4"x10", 2 ins (hi/lo), 2 outs (hi/lo), a footswitch
jack (no footswitch), 4 knobs: input volume, echo delay (speed
control), echo balance (i/o blend control) and echo somethingelse
(feedback control). The back of the unit has a latched door which
opens for cassette removal and storage of the power cable.
So, the question is, what do you call this? It's my version of
an echoplex, simply because everyone who has seen it has said "oh,
look! An echoplex!" so I figured I was safe.
C'mon back.
Jon
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359.8 | What gives ?? | MORRIS::JACQUES | | Fri Oct 09 1987 14:09 | 23 |
| .0 <The echoplex is called Stage EC100>
.1 <Stage is a brand name of the Univox/korg company>
.5 <I remembered the name of manufacturer-Unicord (Univox/Korg=Unicord).
.7 <I stated in .4 that it is not a Univox/Korg and in .1 that it
is an Echoplex>
Make up your mind. I'm not sure of the name of the parent company
that makes genuine "ECHOPLEXES", but it is not Univox. In .5 you
(this is John Nelson isn't it) said that the name of the manufacturer
is Unicord. Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but if you check through.0
- .7 you will see how I came to believe you have a Univox echo unit.
As far as the term "echo chamber" that name goes back to the
50's when tape delays were first invented by non other than Les
Paul. It is kind of a generic term for tape delay, time delay,
echo, etc.
Mark Jacques
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359.9 | | CIMNET::JNELSON | Remember what the doormouse said.... | Fri Oct 09 1987 16:39 | 17 |
| hi.
re .0: that was me calling it an echoplex.
re .1: someone else said it was Univox/korg.
re .5: I said Univox/Korg=Unicord? with an intentional question
mark which referred to .1, because I figured those two big
companies would rather have had their names on the thing
than some rinky dink UNICORD which I had never heard of.
Or mebbe it's true, in which case it's not that rinky-dink.
i'll be rioght back
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359.10 | Confused Yet, Bunky??? | AQUA::ROST | Independent as a hog on ice | Fri Oct 09 1987 17:30 | 30 |
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OK, here goes....
First...
ECHOPLEX is a brand name. For awhile they were made by Maestro,
itself a division of Gibson for awhile. There is now a small company
which owns the rights to the name, makes new ones, services the
old, sells tapes, etc. A real Echoplex saya "Echoplex" on the top.
However, the name has become generic over the years, just as Frigidaire
has come to mean any refrigerator to some people.
The true generic term is "tape echo".
Second.....
Unicord was the name of a company based in NY which sold Univox
brand amps and accessories. Later they changed the product name
to Stage. They also imported Korg keyboards and Marshalls. I believe
they are now officially Korg, Inc. I know it's confusing, but believe
me, it's the truth!!!!
Go to a Korg dealer, have him contact the factory about replacement
tapes. It's a decent unit, I used one many years ago. If you can
get tapes, just make sure you buy plenty of them!!!!
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359.11 | got one!!\ | CIMNET::JNELSON | Remember what the doormouse said.... | Mon Oct 19 1987 09:27 | 9 |
| hi, I'm back. I found one (and only one) of the tapes I was looking
for. It was at Union Music, and it cost me about $5. I asked them
if they would order more, but they were reluctant. Kinda apathetic
for a "Musician's Music Store", dontcha think? Anyway, the tape
said "Dictaphone" on it, I guess I'll have to start looking through
office supply catalogs... Any help?
Jon
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