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| 312.1 | Digital Delay all the way | ERASER::BUCKLEY | Superimpose diminished arpeggios! | Thu Aug 06 1987 12:01 | 24 |
| hey dave,
Personally, I'd rule out the analog delay right off. Basically what
sound you're putting into an analog delay you won't get out fer
sure. besides, they only have delay times of 30-300ms on the average
(which stinks). Digital delay is the way to go. the sound is alot
'truer' to teh original source you usually have control over input
and output levels, and most have a modulation section built in for
doubling/chorusing/flanging effects. Also to be taken into account
is the longer the delay time the more bandwidth you're going to
lose. Also check a units freq response. The Roland SDE1000 is ok,
but its only has a freq response up to like 11K, which drops to
8K when using longer delay times. i wouldn't buy a delay that has
a freq response less than 15K (my opinion). The Roland SDE3000 is
a good unit: freq resp. up to 17K and up to 4 sec delay with 8 presets
and you can preset the modulation section. ADA also makes a few
good delays. The Effectron series is ok on the smaller delay times
but the sound goes real quick in the longer modes.
Basically, with a good delay you should be able to do such a wide
aray of effects you really don't need anything other than a good
amp.
B
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| 312.2 | See note 249 !!! | COUGAR::JACQUES | | Thu Aug 06 1987 14:42 | 16 |
| See note 249 for information on the ALesis MidiverbII. This unit
is mainly a digital reverb, but also has, reverse reverb, gated
reverb (which is not too useful for guitar), flange, chorusing,
delay upto 460ms, and 10 special effects. This unit is a tradeoff
in that all of the effects are preset, with no user programmable
delay parameters, however, It offers 99 different sounds, excellant
sound quality due to 16 bit processing, and frequency response of
15khz effect, 20khz dry. Another selling point is the price (list
price of 399). I think you will find that most digital delays
are around 500 dollars or more, and do not have reverb. You should
definately demo this unit before buying anything. If you are in
the central mass area, check it out at Union Music, in Worcester.
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro
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| 312.3 | What'll a SDE3000 setcha back? | MORRIS::JACQUES | | Fri Aug 07 1987 09:08 | 6 |
| re. .1 What is the price for a Roland SDE3000 just out of curiosity?
I seem to remember seeing them for just under $600
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro Ma
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| 312.4 | It's what you do with it | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Dave | Fri Aug 07 1987 12:04 | 29 |
| What's the longest delay time on the MV-II. I thought that most
of its delay effects where short delay and they were all hardwired
(i.e. you can't tweak them).
I'd consider that a fair disadvantage. I am always tweaking my
Effectron ADM 1024 (which incidentally has the same frequency response
from 1 msec to 1.024 sec.). Some units have a mode where they
halve the sampling rate to double the delay time. The mode has
very poor audio characteristcs.
I've said all I could ever say about delays in other notes. My feeling
is that if would otherwise buy two or more "stomp boxes" for delay
effects (flange, chorus, slapback, echo), you would save a great
deal of money in the long run getting a good DDL, and end up with
something much better on top of that. (Most delays will also do
vibrato as well).
I use my delay a LOT. Anyone at summerjam may have noticed that
after almost every song I was back twiddling my delay (one of these
days I'll get one with presets but I really like my ADM-1024) -
sometimes even in the middle of a song!
It's one of the best investments I've made but whether it's worthwhile
for you depends on your style, and your inclination to experiment with it.
There's a lot of neat things you can do with it (which I've described
elsewhere).
db
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| 312.5 | price/performance | MORRIS::JACQUES | | Tue Aug 11 1987 09:20 | 45 |
| I guess I have to agree that not being able to tweak delay time
and other parameters is a dissadvantage, especially if delay is
mainly what you are looking for, but if you are willing to settle
for an adequate variety of relatively short delay effects (upto
460ms) you are also getting a great digital reverb, with some truly
amazing special effects like multitapped panning, bloom (long building
swell background effect), flanging, chorusing, reverse reverb, gated
reverb. as well as stereo inputs and outputs, for $399.oo list.
I asked in an earlier note how much a Roland SDE3000 sells for.
Not everyone has $500-$600 to spend on a digital delay. I think
I got the best unit for the money I had to spend.
By the way I believe that slapback echo is usually under 460ms,
so this unit provides a great slapback effect. This is the effect
that most people are after anyways. Long effects are fun but I
personally don't require them for what I'm playing. Also, with
the stereo ins and outs you can hook a cable from the spare in to
the spare out (assuming yours only running mono) and you have infinate
regeneration of all 99 effects). I'm sure you can do this with any
other delay, but the spare input and output makes it much easier
than other methods.
Another thing that I had in mind when I bought my Alesis MVII
was that it was going to have to pull double (or triple) duty by
being used for a guitar effect as well as being used on a small
P.A. For instance if I wanted to play with a rock band on certain
nights I can use it on electric guitar, but if I'm playing solo
acoustic stuff I will use it for my small PA system. It even sounds
great on my stereo system, where I use it to get a nice ambience
effect.
One other point it that a full function digital delay in the
wrong hands may not sound that good. A lot of really
fine guitarists do not have the best ear for setting up sound
gear. Also a lot of people own equipment for years, and never
realize it's full potential because they don't know how to get
all the sounds possible out of it. Since the Alesis contains only
preset effects, there is really no guesswork, or tricks you have
to know to get all the potential out of it.
Enough for now. As always it boils down to opinion, and what
your priorities are. Mine was price/performance.
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro, Ma.
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| 312.6 | Analog Has Its Advantages, Too | AQUA::ROST | The pumpkin is breathing hard | Thu Aug 13 1987 16:07 | 34 |
|
Dave, I will agree with what people have been saying about spending
bucks for a good delay, *but*....
If slapback is what you want, and high fidelity is not important,
the analog delay stomp boxes from folks like Boss and DOD may do
the trick for $100 or less.
Most get out to about 300 mS which is plenty..."Slap" occurs from
around 50 to 100 mS, less than 50 sounds like doubling, i.e. two
guitars playing in unison until you get below say 10 mS where you
start losing the ability to hear the delay!
A good digital delay will give you a very clean slap...basically
identical to the straight guitar in tone. An analog unit will have
less highs and some hiss, but will sound a lot like the old tape
echos people used to use....at high regeneration settings, they
can even give you that "Runaway Echoplex" sound that digital delays
just can't do.
Analog stomp boxes *cannot* flange, chorus, etc. If you want to
be able to do that or need hi-fi, just ignore all this.
Also, Ibanez, DOD/DigiTech and Boss have low-cost (around $150-200)
digital stomp boxes, with delays up to around a second, with chorus,
flange, etc. that may do the trick. They won't outdo a rack mount,
but if you're not recording the difference may not even be noticable.
As usual, TRY before you BUY...
Brian_who_likes_low_tech_as_much_as_high_tech
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| 312.7 | analog devices for Digital workers? | CSSE::CLARK | I'm not Beethoven | Fri Aug 14 1987 11:19 | 6 |
| thanks, Brian! $100 sounds MUCH more in line with my (or should
I say my wife's) budget.
I prefer the 'Scotty Moore' sound on the old Elvis Sun records -
some newer guitarists like Brian Setzer and Duke Robillard use
slapback very nicely.
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| 312.8 | Nobell Multoeffect unit !! | COUGAR::JACQUES | | Fri Aug 14 1987 11:51 | 14 |
| Just for the hell of it, Nobell is advertising a multieffect unit
in Guitar Player lately. It is an orange color rackmount unit,
which has distorsion, delay, chorus, flange,compression, and
a graphic EQ in one unit. It doesn't look like a big bucks unit, but
it looks like it could be fun. I'd like to try one out just for fun.
I think it's probably in the range of $200-$300 or more, but it
couldn't hurt to ask.
Has anyone seen these units in Guitar player or better yet
in a store ? How much are they selling for ?
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro, Ma.
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| 312.9 | From Latin Percussion, the conga people | AQUA::ROST | Are we having fun yet? | Fri Aug 14 1987 12:08 | 10 |
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The Nobell is distributed by Latin Percussion.
I haven't seen this or the "Sound Studio" Rockman clone anywhere
yet.
Sounds like they are trying to compete with Rockman rack mounts.
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| 312.10 | | MTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVID | | Fri Aug 14 1987 15:33 | 7 |
| Recently I saw a used Ibanez DM-1000 for about $100 in this or another
notefile (Commusic or Music I dunno). That's a good deal. It's a
rack mount digital delay. For guitar it's got reasonable specs...for
recording well I use mine but noise can be a problem....BTW it also
flanges and choruses etc.
dave
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| 312.11 | runaway echoplexes | ANGORA::JACQUES | | Mon Aug 17 1987 11:27 | 27 |
| Re. .6 I beg to differ with you. You can get the "runaway echoplex"
effect with a digi delay just as well as you can with an analog
delay, simply by setting up a feedback loop from the output of the
delay back to the input. What you can't get with either digital
or analog delays that you can get with an echoplex is sound-on-
sound. Each time you strike a note on an echoplex it is recorded
onto tape, and played back by the playback head (slackback). If
you have sound-on-sound turned on the tape goes around until it
comes back again at which point it is added to the notes being played,
thus sound-on-sound. The length of the tape you are using determines
how long before the notes come back around (I believe they were
available in 30sec, 60sec, 120 sec.) The playback head is mounted on
a slide. When you slide the playback head away from the record head
you increasethe delay. I always liked echoplexes, and to this day am still
considering buying one, especially if I can get one cheap, however
most of "today's" music does not call for "runaway echoplex" effects.
A few years ago when echplexes were still popular they were
selling for about $200.oo. I procrastinated about buying one,
but never had to money to pick one up. If I see one for sale for
like 50-75 bucks in decent shape I just might be tempted to go
for it. With the present price/performance available in digi
delays I would expect echoplexes in good shape should be available
for that price. I wonder if you can still buy replacement tapes
for them or have them repaired, though.
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| 312.12 | Into the Echoplex Rathole | AQUA::ROST | Are we having fun yet? | Mon Aug 17 1987 12:20 | 8 |
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Re: .11
What I meant by a "runaway" Echoplex is that sound where the hiss
begins to build up after many repeats (like on Steve Miller's "Fly
Like An Eagle"). On a digital delay, there
is no hiss, but you *do* get a metallic screech when
regeneration is too high...not a very pleasant sound.
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| 312.13 | More Rambling. | ANGORA::JACQUES | | Mon Aug 17 1987 14:52 | 61 |
| When I think of "runaway echoplex" I think of the sound of crickets
chirping louder and faster with time. I know what you mean by the
sound in Steve Millers "Fly like an Eagle". The hiss being regenerated
sounds almost like ocean waves washing ashore in a steady rhythm.
What we have forgotten in this age of high technology, is that back
in the sixties, the classics (like Hendrix) learned how to use noise,
to make interesting, intense, sounds. They made noise a part of
their trademark and style. Today we are doing the same thing with
overdrive and digital effects, however, sometimes it's not done
as effectively as back in the "good ole days".
I hate to live in the past, but I still like a lot of old Music
just as much as the new music I hear, if not more. It amazes me
when I hear that Brian Epstein recorded the Beatles Sargeant
Peppers album on a four-track reel to reel recorder. Maybe my
ears aren't that good but the album sounds pretty noise-free to
me.
High tech is great but I like to strike a balance between
using high tech, and using vintage equipment, to get the sound
I like. In this spirit I am considering buying a New but original
"Fuzz Face" and "Cry Baby" wah wah pedal, as well as an Echoplex,
if I can find a good deal on one. I also have no desire whatsoever
to part with my Fender Telecaster and Twin Reverb, Hum and all.
I have also considered buying a Pignose amp, despite all of the
criticism I've heard against them.
Despite my respect for vintage equipment, I still would never
want to give up my Alesis Midiverb II multieffects unit, or any
of the late model equipment that I have purchased. I'm sure that
most keyboard players are delighted with the equipment available
to them today, and would never want to go back to the old days of
dragging around a Hammond B3 and a Fender Rhoades electric piano.
While I am no longer into gigging full time, I like to gig
ocassionally, so that I can make a few bucks to spend on
equipment. I prefer to stay in tuned with music on a hobby
level. I admit it's an expensive hobby, especially for a husband
and father like myself, however I'm not into any of the costly
hobbys that a lot of my freinds are into, like Skiing, Golf,
nightclubs, expensive cars, racketball, and fashion. Everyone
deserves to have at least one hobby even if it takes a little
money to stay into it.
I enjoy using this notes file for corresponding with other
musicians. I hope a don't come off sounding like a know-it-all.
I just like to throw my 2 cents in. I'm not trying to do anyone
one better when talking about effects or guitars in general.
Also, I hope I don't sound snobby, just cause I managed to
scrape up some bucks, and talked my wife into letting me buy
some new toys. If you are on a low budget, I simpathize with
you. After 5 years of marriage, this is really the first time
I have spent any money on equipment. Lately I'm like a kid in
a candy store every time I enter a music store.
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro, Ma.
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| 312.14 | Sound's good to me! | VIDEO::BUSENBARK | | Mon Aug 17 1987 16:47 | 19 |
| Gee here I thought I was an old fuddy duddy.... A fuzz face? I
remember those! wow ya know I agree with you Mark. And can relate to the
family situation as I used some"mad" money to buy my Gibson(non-vintage)
and Marshall 50 wt.
I couldn't find a Strat I liked and my family could afford so I
bought what I thought was the next best thing... I'm not worried about
resale value either. I could get into buying a Fender Twin,but only at
the right price and vintage,I heard a real nice one a couple of days ago.
A know it all? I doubt it! I just really think there is an inter-
esting mix of old timers and younger guys in this conference which really
adds to the discussions and the topics there is a lot to be learned from
everyone and as long as it is fun it's worth it!
I still like the sound of a B3 and a Rhodes no matter how heavy it
was to carry around!
Rick
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| 312.15 | Fuzz Face is Back !! | MORRIS::JACQUES | | Tue Aug 18 1987 09:17 | 22 |
| Believe it or not I saw the Fuzzface advertised in Guitar
Player last month. The ad read "It's back, the effect that
shaped rock music as we know it". I also still see crybaby
wah wah pedals in a lot of stores. At one time I thought,
why would anyone buy a cry baby, and hassle with the rack
and pinion pot assembly when you can get a photo electric
Morley in stead. The reason is that the Morley pedal just
can't produce the sound of the original cry baby. Granted
the Morley pedal probably puts out less noise, and maintains
unity gain better, but it doesn't have the classic wah wah
sound. I also noticed that Echoplex is still advertising in
Guitar Player as well and now offers a Stereo model.
To quote my wife "Only difference between men and boys is
the price of their toys". I have to agree. Have you been in
Child World Lately? $50.oo for a Radio Flyer Wagon !! I can't
wait until my son is old enough to play guitar !!
Mark Jacques
LM02/Marlboro, Ma.
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| 312.16 | you ain't spent nothin' yet!! | NEXUS::DICKERSON | | Tue Aug 18 1987 18:35 | 15 |
| re.-1
Don't rejoice too soon. My son ( 14 ) plays piano. For
Christmas we got him a synth ( ESQ1 ). But, that's not
the end of it. There's keyboard amps, drum machines,
interface to the Apple, etc, etc... ad infinitum. The
future looks bleak for Dad getting any of his toys until
matriculation.
A $50.00 wagon looks pretty good about now!
Your friend the penniless
but smiling musician/dad
Doug Dickerson
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| 312.17 | Mamas don't let yer babies grow up to be musicians | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Dave | Wed Aug 19 1987 10:53 | 6 |
| My neighbor just got his 12-year-old son a $5k+ accordian (get this!)
WITH MIDI plus a Yamaha FB-01 synthesizer!
Makes sending them to college seem cheap by comparison.
db
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| 312.18 | Echo echo echo ... | CHFV03::KOTSCHARJANA | | Tue Nov 17 1987 15:02 | 5 |
|
Has anyone out there seen a DIGITECH rack mount delay/sampler?
-- ar rrr men.
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| 312.19 | digital delays | REPAIR::KISIEL | Yo Dudes 8^) | Thu Mar 28 1991 07:28 | 15 |
|
I was looking though the file's for Boss Digital Delay's and this
seems to be the closest, I'm considering buying a delay pedal and
the only one that seem's to stand out is the Boss one.....any opinions.
I've got a small leaflet which I got with one of my other F.X. and
It says something about holding the footswitch down to hold the
delay, Now on Metallica's Cliff'em all video on Welcome home
(sanitarium), Kirk Hammett plays a note and you can hear it being
reproduced and while that's happening he starts playing the rhythm
section. Is this possible????
If you understand what I mean......
EWAN
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| 312.20 | | TRAM::BBOLDT | | Thu Mar 28 1991 10:36 | 8 |
| I think what you want is a unit that offers infinite repeats. You hit
the note and it will repeat until you switch it off. There was a ADA
rack mount delay for sale for $50 in here the other day. You might
want to check and see if it is still for sale. I'm sure you can
probably get a switch for it pretty cheap if it has an input for one.
It also had chorus and flange on it.
Byron
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| 312.21 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Stick it to ya! | Thu Mar 28 1991 12:22 | 7 |
|
re.19
Maybe he has a delay/sampler pedal ?
-Tony (don't know much about delay pedals except the Yamaha pedal I
used to have wasn't bad).
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| 312.22 | Boss digital delay | YORICK::CREASY | What's happenin' dudes? | Thu Mar 28 1991 13:05 | 7 |
| The Boss DD-something (2? 3?) has a "hold" function, which lets you
play a chord, then press the pedal down, and it'll play it again and
again and... until you take your foot off the pedal. I've got one, but
never use the effect (it's a real bugger trying to get the speed right
of the repeats)
Nick
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| 312.23 | DDDDDELAY | REPAIR::KISIEL | Yo Dudes 8^) | Tue Apr 02 1991 07:36 | 7 |
|
O.k., but can you also play something else at the same time as Kirk
Hammett is......... Maybe it is something like a Delay/Sampler..???
EWAN
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| 312.24 | | IOSG::CREASY | What's happenin' dudes? | Tue Apr 02 1991 09:24 | 10 |
| Yes, you can play over the repeats. So, you play a chord and press
the pedal down, and the chord repeats. You can then play whatever you
like over the top of that. I'm not familiar with Metallica (is that who
Kirk Hammett plays with?) but it sounds like you could achieve the
effect you desire. But as I say, it's a pain trying to get the delay
time right live - if you're going to use it in a live situation, you
really need something like a tc2290 (which is a great bit of gear, but
costs MEGABUCKS).
Nick
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| 312.25 | DOD DFX-9? | CSC32::J_KUHN | I'm ready for the laughing gas | Tue Jun 09 1992 15:03 | 9 |
| anyone heard the DOD DFX-9 ? I saw an ad comparing it to the BOSS one.
its got 92db s/n and 10k bandwith. the boss has 7.
Its digital, does that really mean less noise than an analog?
I have a CHEAP radio shack delay, got it for 10 bucks. I can assume
safely that the DOD DFX-9 is cleaner?
thanks
jay mr_low_budget
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| 312.26 | go for it | FRETZ::HEISER | electric warrior/acoustic saint | Tue Jun 09 1992 15:18 | 7 |
| The DFX-9 is one of the pedals I tried when I initiated the Digitech
vs. Boss debate in the Boss pedal note. Most people seem to prefer
Boss effects in here, but I couldn't tell the difference.
Digitech has really come a long way.
Mike
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| 312.27 | tempted | CSC32::J_KUHN | No MIDI no cry | Wed Jun 10 1992 15:26 | 5 |
| its either this or get a used rack mounted alesis or Digitech or whatever.
I do understand the rack things are better of course. Its just not
worth it for me to spend on 200 bucks on this...TODAY. :-)
I'm just going to use it in the effects send to create a false stereo
image and things like that. I would like pitch shifting though. :-)
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| 312.28 | Used Rack Beats New Stomp | RICKS::ROST | Subconcious desire to be deaf | Wed Jun 10 1992 15:47 | 13 |
| But if all you need is *delay*, you can get rack mount delay units for
under $100 with some shopping. The same digital delay units that
people gladly laid out $700 for in 1985 can be had real cheap these
days. And will probably sound better then the stomp box, plus will let
you do chorus and flanging as well (which the stomp won't).
There's a place in Watertown MA that deals pro audio that regularly has
delay and reverb rack units that it took in trade for under $100.
There was an ADA delay that changed hands twice in this notesfile for
$50. And I recently picked up a single rack space unit with *two*
delays in it for $125 in this notesfile.
Brian
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| 312.29 | Maybe a local establishment | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Ain't no cure for the Summertime Blues! | Wed Jun 10 1992 15:55 | 10 |
| > There's a place in Watertown MA that deals pro audio that regularly has
> delay and reverb rack units that it took in trade for under $100.
Since Jay is here in Colorado, I'll mention that there's also a place
that advertises in the Denver papers called Economy Pro Audio (or
something such, check the classifieds in the Post), which sounds
similar. I don't know anything about them or their prices, but I'll
probably check 'em out the next time I go to Denver.
Greg
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| 312.30 | ok | CSC32::J_KUHN | No MIDI no cry | Thu Jun 11 1992 09:45 | 9 |
| . last two.
I will start watching the POST and the notesfiles more.
So, Greg, you mean there is another paper besides the GT? :-)
I went through all this madness before I went bought my 4track, and
it really paid off. I apoligize for asking the same questions over
and over! :-)
j
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| 312.31 | More suggestions.... | SMURF::BENNETT | It's better than bad, it's GOOD | Thu Jun 11 1992 11:45 | 19 |
|
Following up on Brian's thread - Boss made a whole collection
of 1/2 rack gear a few years back. They made 2 delays in the
series:
o RDD20 - Delay 0.5ms to 400ms, depth and rate controls (chorus,
phase, flange), feedback (regen), tone, and mix controls.
o RPS10 - Delay, I think as high as 800ms., pitch shift +/- 1
octave (this can chorus,too), feedback and mix controls
I'm currently using an RDD20 and it sounds great. Both have
footswitch jacks on the back and cost within talking range of $100
wherever I've seen 'em. And they have *knobs*. Also in the series
are a reverb (RRV10), a distortion preamp (RDS10), a chorus (RCE10),
a phaser (RPH10), and a parametric EQ (RPQ10).
There's lots of old Digitech RDS 1000, 1900, 2000, 4000 type
boxes floating around in the << $150 range as well.
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| 312.32 | | PEKING::BARKERN | Dries in minutes | Fri Jun 12 1992 10:45 | 6 |
| A reply from the other side of the Atlantic, The Boss micro rack
series is pretty good value for money, used they are very cheap over
here, but I don't know how much road use they would stand.
Nigel
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| 312.33 | finding them is a different story | FRETZ::HEISER | electric warrior/acoustic saint | Fri Jun 12 1992 13:36 | 1 |
| I've never seen them around.
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| 312.34 | | CAVLRY::BUCK | Weirdorama, Psychodome | Fri Jun 12 1992 13:37 | 1 |
| Mike Heiser strikes me as an SDE-3000 kind of guy!
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| 312.35 | SDE3000 ain't cheap either | FRETZ::HEISER | electric warrior/acoustic saint | Fri Jun 12 1992 13:42 | 1 |
| but I'd settle for an H3000 and TC2290 ;-)
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| 312.36 | Good stuff! | GOES11::G_HOUSE | Ain'tNoCureForTheSummertimeBlues! | Fri Jun 12 1992 17:06 | 5 |
| The Roland SRV/SDE series are truly superior effects! Not a lot of
flash, but they deliver with great sound. They can be had in the
$200-$300 range used these days.
Greg
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| 312.37 | RV3 Reverb/Delay pedal is cool | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Play that crazy people music! | Wed Apr 26 1995 20:54 | 18 |
| Well I delayed my purchase long enough, but found a very cool
pedal that does what I want. Got the new BOSS RV3 Digital Reverb/Delay
pedal which is quite impressive for a stomp box. It's got 3 modes.
1-3 are delay only that goes up to 2 seconds. 4-7 are delay and reverb
combined, 8-11 are reverb only. It's got 4 controls. some which
are dual function depending upon what mode you're in.
Balance Tone/Feedback Rev Time/Delay Time Mode
(dir/efx) (reverb only/delay (reverb/rv or rv+del) (1-11)
or delay+reverb)
It's also got stereo out if you want to run it in stereo. Found some
of the delay/reverb settings to be some of my faves for that spacious
and WARM (surprisingly for digital!) sound ... almost like you hear on
those ECM records. Yeah, like the warmest thing next to Roland Space
Echo's without the surf 8>)....
/Paul
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| 312.38 | Now i'm more depressed than i was. | POLAR::KFICZERE | | Thu Apr 27 1995 11:08 | 6 |
| I've been dreamin' of one of those for months! Wish i could justify the
$250.I test drove one. Loved it,but i have a DD3 and i just can't do
it...I DON"T HAVE THE POWER!!!
Congrats,
-kev
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| 312.39 | Only $137 | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Play that crazy people music! | Thu Apr 27 1995 18:44 | 9 |
| $250!? Heck no, I paid $137 + shipping from Wive's Enemy - I mean
"Musician's Friend". It was on my door step within 2 days. With a
45 day return policy who can argue?! Seems like the best way to try
something out - in your own space, thru your own setup, with the band,
without the band, etc.
...And I'm keeping it.
/Paul
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| 312.40 | Exchange rates SUCK!! | POLAR::KFICZERE | | Mon May 01 1995 10:36 | 1 |
| That would be in American money now wouldn't it....
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| 312.41 | Melican | CRONIC::PCUMMINGS | Play that crazy people music! | Mon May 01 1995 19:47 | 3 |
| Yep. them 'Merican dollars...........
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