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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

311.0. "Replacement pickup's Gain?" by VIDEO::BUSENBARK () Thu Aug 06 1987 09:52

	Ok folks I know that this has been discussed elsewhere,however
maybe not in this context. 
	I bought a Tokai 56 strat after reading in the notesfile about 
how good they were and playing one and spending 8 months looking for a 
resonably price used strat in playable shape I decide it was a good buy. 
	I'd like to replace the pickups to eliminate the typical pickup
hum you hear from a single coil. I would also like to increase the gain
output of the instrument to the equivalent of a Gibson humbucker without
losing the "strat" sounds.
	The choices of replacement pickups seem infinite and it's really
hard to choose which one will accomplish what I need. Dimarzio put's out
Hs1,2,3 and then an active setup called "the shock wave system". Seymour
Duncan put's out nine different models,"Hot rails" and the"Quarter-pound"
seem to be indicated as the "hottest". And then there is Bartolini,EMG
and etc....
	So has anyone tried to accomplish the same thing or am I going to
really alter the "strat" sound of this instrument? What did you find? Any
body ever do any comparisons?

							Rick

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311.1The possibilities are endless !!MORRIS::JACQUESFri Aug 07 1987 09:2428
    I have never changed pickups before. I had a strat, and considered
    changing the pickups to Duncans but I ended up selling it to raise
    money for a P.A. system. Anyway, I think the best way to reduce
    the hum is to use a humbucker which will definately change the sound
    of a strat. If you were to use a quarterpounder, you would probably
    notice a little more hum than a stock pickup due to the larger magnets,
    greater number of windings, and because it's still a single coil pickup.
    There may be some tricks you can do like use a pickup in the middle
    position which is reverse polarity from the other two and set them
    up for common mode rejection. I think Seymour Duncan talks about
    this in his pickup literature. I know he sells pickups that are
    reverse wired. If you want to get an idea how various pickups
    sound you could check out an ESP strat which has EMG's, a Schecter
    strat which has Schecter's pickups, a Bill Lawrence strat, etc,
    etc. This won't tell you exactly how it'll sound in your guitar,
    but it will give you a rough idea how it will sound, and also
    allows you to compare one pickup to another. If you are close
    to Marlboro, Mr C's has lots of Strat copies from different 
    Manufacturers, and would be a good place to compare.
    
    	You could also leave your strat stock and try using a noise
    gate, or something else to lose some of the noise.
    
    	     					Mark Jacques
    						LM02/Marlboro, Ma.
                                                
    
    
311.2highly recommendedMTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDMon Aug 10 1987 13:188
    I put Semour Duncan Hot stacks in my strat...no more hum. Stacks
    are a humbucking pickup that sounds like a strat pickup and fits
    in the original holes with no modification to the guitar..it osunds
    great, just like a strat, has reasonably powerful output and doesn't
    hum. Dimarzio also makes a humbucking strat replacement pickup
    but I have no firsthand knowledge of it.       
    
    dave
311.3DUNCANSECAVAX::VALASEKWed Aug 12 1987 11:208
    ditto on .2
    
    I too, put Seymour Duncan Hot stacks in my strat and no more hum.
    To me, it sounds just like a strat, and I don't have any batteries
    to mess with. I credit noters like Dave for helping me with the
    decision. Check the note file on pickups.
    
    Tony
311.4Have and love the EMG setupCSC32::G_HOUSEWed Sep 23 1987 20:5411
	I realize that I'm a little late on this topic, but here goes...

	I have the EMG active setup in my Strat.  It's got the best sound
	(and sound variation) that I've heard/played.  I don't know much
	about the pickups (ie stacked or what) because they were in the 
	guitar when I bought it.  At that time ('84) they were pretty 
	expensive, about $300, I think.  They have a 9v under the pickguard
	which has to be changed about every 6-9 months.  That's kind of a 
	hassle but the tone and variety is absolutely fantastic!