Conference napalm::guitar

    Check out a copy of March's Guitar Player. There's a (one-page)
    review of the Digitech effects in there by Paul Rivera (ex-head
    amp designer for Fender).
    
    Basically, he seems impressed, but does say battery drain would
    be a problem, so get an AC adapter.
    
    Hope that helps a bit.
    
    Nick
    
    ps I've been using a standard DOD chorus for about 5 or 6 years
    now, and can vouch for it's sturdiness!! (it just gets thrown in
    a bag between gigs). Minor nit is the input/output jack sockets,
    and the mains socket - if they start to come unscrewed (and they
    have during gigs) it can cause some VERY nasty effects (the unit
    switches itself off). However, that may not be a problem with the
    more expensive Digitech units.

    My advice is to save the penny's for a good AC rack mounted DDL.
    They are much less noisy and when you make the experiment of comparing
    the delay sound to the original you find that those boxes are pretty
    poor and the rack mounts are pretty darn good.
    
    I've also discovered that I really suffer from the lack of presets
    on my ADM-1024.  I'm planning to get something like a SPX-90 which
    seems to be multi-useful for recording and performing applications.
    I'll use that for most delay effects, and the ADM for long delay
    effects.
    
    	db

    Of general interest,
    
    I am 100% sold on having true stereo delay, especially for chorusing,
    flanging and other "short" delay effects.  Adding a 2nd amp for
    true stereo was the biggest single improvement in sound I've ever
    made.
    
    It also changed my thinking about recording.  Instead of panning
    instruments, in the future I intend to have most things dead center
    but with one side being dry and the other being delayed.
    
    	db

    As I said in another note, I received some DigiTech propaganda today.
    I'm interested in 4 of the digital duals (2 pedals in one box, twice the
    size of the singles), one of which is mentioned in .0.  What do you 
    owners, if any exist, feel about these pedals?  Anyone know what they
    cost?  The bozos didn't send a price sheet.
    
    PDS 1650 - Programmable Distortion, 20 program slots for tube
               distortion, overdrive, metal, etc.
    PDS 20/20 - alias "Multi Play", Digital Stereo 
                Chorus/Flanger/Delay (1ms to 2secs)
    PDS 3000 - alias "Pedalverb", Digital Reverb
    PDS 8000 - alias "Echo Plus", Digital Sampler/Delay (125ms to 8secs)
    
    Teamed up with a no nonsense combo, this sounds like all I would need.
    They also make a pedal road case for single pedals with AC adapter
    built in and patch cords.  Anyone see one of these for the duals?
    
    Mike

    I just called DigiTech for some more info that I'll post here.  I'd
    still be interested to hear some owner's comments.
    
>    PDS 1650 - Programmable Distortion, 20 program slots for tube
>               distortion, overdrive, metal, etc.
    
    They said this unit is "brand new and not in production yet".  However,
    they think it will list for $199.
    
>    PDS 20/20 - alias "Multi Play", Digital Stereo 
>                Chorus/Flanger/Delay (1ms to 2secs)
    
    list is $249.95
    
>    PDS 3000 - alias "Pedalverb", Digital Reverb
     
    list is $299.95
    
>    PDS 8000 - alias "Echo Plus", Digital Sampler/Delay (125ms to 8secs)
    
    list is $299.95
    
>    They also make a pedal road case for single pedals with AC adapter
>    built in and patch cords.  Anyone see one of these for the duals?
    
    The PRC6 is for singles, the PRC4 is for duals.  My guess is that it
    holds 4 pedals since the PRC6 holds 6.  The PRC4 is $139.95 list.
    
    Total list for all of the above is $1,188.80.  I was told rack was big
    $$$.  I could get an SGE for $500 and the 8 second delay above and
    still save over $300.
    
    Mike_who_hasn't_given_up_racks_yet

    The mail order company, PMI of New Jersey recently sent me a catalog
    after ignoring me for years (they must be psychic :-)).  They have all
    the DigiTech pedals in mentioned in here at these prices:
    
                        List         PMI
                        ----         ----
    DigiTech PDS 3000   $299.95      $185.00   
    DigiTech PDS 8000   $299.95      $194.95   
    DigiTech PDS 20/20  $249.95      $162.95  
    
    They also carry these items now: Marshall amps, Harttke cabs, Laney,
    Ibanez guitars and pedals in addition to their older lines.
    
    Mike

Anyone know much about the Digitech Time Machine delay? Any good? What's
a rough figure for their value, used?

thanks,
alan

    Which one?  They made a coupla models.  The 8 second one goes for a bit
    under $300 new, the 4 second one about $50 less.  The DigiTechs I've
    tried are OK, and since they make the only *cheap* super-long delays on
    the market they are the only game in town if you want more than 2
    seconds...
    
    							Brian