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175.1 | Play it and Smile | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | Dave | Sun Feb 23 1986 13:03 | 23 |
| Steve Vai is now David Lee Roth's guitarist. I think Roth's "Eat
'Em and Smile" album is also Vai's finest work. A lot of people
can't stand Roth and refuse to buy the album, but I think that's
just depriving yourself of some excellent guitar work.
Vai has two solo albums "Flexible" and "Flexible Leftovers" (actually
an EP). Flexible has just been rereleased (after being out of print
for a year or so). In my opinion, "Flexible" will dissapoint most
Vai fans, but there is at least one killer instrumental on it ("The
Attitude Song"). Anyway, I'd avoid these albums. Most of it is
just sorta comedic stuff he did on his home 4-track or something
like that.
I think besides the Roth album, the only other album I'm familiar
with that I'd recommend is "Them Or Us" by Frank Zappa. It's a
good album in and of itself, and Vai is featured in several places,
whereas in previous Zappa recordings, he didn't get much in the
way of solos.
I think "Eat Em and Smile" is the one to get. Absolutely superlative
album in terms of guitar work.
db
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175.2 | by cooder | FROST::SIMON | Mister Diddy Wah Diddy? | Mon Feb 24 1986 09:20 | 13 |
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Records by Cooder that I would recommend:
BOB TILL YOU DROP (David Lindley on this one also)
SHOW TIME
RY COODER (his first (I believe))
PARADISE AND LUNCH
JAZZ
There's others, but these are my favorites....
-gary
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175.3 | Vai!! | MILVAX::EATON | | Thu May 14 1987 15:53 | 11 |
| I think you are right that a lot of people are missing out on some
great guitar work by "boycotting" David lee Roth's album. Steve
Vai (and, let's not overlook Billy Sheehan) are truly spectacular.
Some of the stuff tends to get a little "playful", but the guitar
is fantastic. Steve Vai got GP's Player of the Year this year for
it. Another Steve Vai album I like a lot is "Disturbing The Peace"
by Alcatrazz, his former band. It's a little heavier than "Crossroads"
and David Lee Roth, but it's high-quality stuff.
As for "Flexable", my "significant other" likes it a lot (and
insists on listening to it) but I think it's just plain boring.
That means a lot coming from a real Vai enthusiast like myself.
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175.4 | Crossroads | MMO01::ERNST | | Sat May 23 1987 14:34 | 16 |
| I have seen Vai in concert several times with Zappa. If you are
looking for Vai albums, Check out any of the early '80's Zappa stuff.
Vai is really the best of the "Eddie" types (for my money, Little
Stevie can send Mr. Van Halen home crying).
I am a bonafide Ry Cooder nut. Obviuosly, if you enjoyed the movie,
I can assure you that the soundtrack is superb. Since Vai was only
at the end of the movie, and you got into the soundtrack, I have
a feeling that you are more interested in Cooder stuff. Especially
his blues. He does have some non-blues type stuff out. Although
any Cooder is good Cooder (being a fan, I recommend them all), for
blues, RY COODER, BOOMER'S STORY, PARADISE AND LUNCH are good. For
a real treat, check out the soundtrack to "The Long Riders". Recorded
with authentic 1800's instruments.
ben
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175.5 | Be careful, that guitar is loaded | STAR::KMCDONOUGH | SET KIDS/NOSICK | Mon Feb 13 1989 14:23 | 16 |
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I'm several years behind on movies 8-( but I finally rented Crossroads
last weekend. Ry Cooder's playing is great. Nice slide work and some
great licks.
The guitar duel at the end with Steve Vai playing both parts (I assume)
was tremendous. I usually reach for my guitar when I see some playing on
the tube that interests me. Not this time. Any resemblance between
the way that he and I play the guitar is completely coincidental.
If I ever figure out a way to play the VCR at 1/2 speed, I'll have that
duel with no problem. 8-)
Kevin
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175.6 | Now available in TAB | VAXWRK::INGRAM | That was then, This isn't happening. | Tue Feb 14 1989 09:35 | 6 |
| FWIW: There is a new magazine put out by Guitar World called
Guitar School. The latest issue (Feb., Mar., ?) has a transcription
of the duel, I believe in it's entirety. Haven't checked it's accuracy
though...
Larry
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175.7 | | SUBURB::DALLISON | The Kitten has claws | Tue Feb 14 1989 12:08 | 2 |
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I want that transcription.
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175.8 | | PNO::HEISER | Doesn't make sense, isn't it? | Tue Feb 14 1989 17:21 | 7 |
| I'm not familiar with the movie "Crossroads" but I did see the
transcription in the 'Guitar School' magazine.
What is this movie? A concert movie or did Cooder and Vai just
do the soundtrack for a typical flick?
Mike
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175.9 | Cliff (Greg)s Notes: Crossroads, the movie | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Which way did they go? | Tue Feb 14 1989 18:32 | 6 |
| The movie is a story, not a concert film. It's about a young classical
guitar student who is infatuated with the blues and hooks up with an
elderly bluesman who (in the movie, pure fantasy) played with Robert
Johnson.
Greg
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175.10 | It was Arlen, Honest ! | YUPPY::BENNETT | Thrash with Panache ... | Wed Feb 15 1989 08:11 | 20 |
| Hey,
Not this Cooder conversation again ?!
I read recently in the (British) magazine 'Guitarist' that Ry
Cooder was aclaimed as the man behind 'Crossroad' although he
only composed the title theme. The main work was done by Arlen
Roth who composed the majority of the blues music in the film
the dual sequence was played by Vai and Roth but alot was also
played by the actor Ralph 'thingy' who was taught to play guitar
by Roth over a 3 month period with a 6 hour lesson per day.
Hard to believe ?
Anyhow, Roth seemed to have an arguement over copy right and
fee with the producers of the film so Ry Cooder was given the
credit until the law courts sorted it all out during '88. So,
Arlen Roth is the man !
Thanx ,
Graham ...
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175.11 | Don't know about CD | FPTVX1::KINNEY | Everything's better when wet | Wed Feb 15 1989 11:17 | 5 |
| There is an album of the soundtrack. I picked it up a couple of
months ago after looking far and wide. Just titled Crossroad and
available, most likley, in the movie sound track section.
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175.12 | Look what Vai hath Roth | DREGS::BLICKSTEIN | So What? BEEG Deal! | Wed Feb 15 1989 14:42 | 4 |
| Funny how Vai seems to gravitate towards working people whose last
name is "Roth".
db
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175.13 | What a THOUGHT! | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Which way did they go? | Wed Feb 15 1989 18:39 | 3 |
| Anyone know how to do a legal name change?
Gregory Lee Roth (er...House)
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175.14 | I'd *like* to buy it... | CSC32::G_HOUSE | Which way did they go? | Thu Feb 16 1989 19:05 | 6 |
| re: .6
The magazine is called "Guitar School"? I am having trouble locating
it, any suggestions (sorry, I don't live in New England).
Greg
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175.15 | | PNO::HEISER | Don't Bb, B# and you'll look # | Mon Apr 24 1989 14:20 | 8 |
| I too just rented the movie this weekend. Other than the guitar
work, it struggled to hold my attention until the duel at the end.
Even my wife came in for that part :-).
Only thing I have to ask is, does this mean that Classical guitarists
are better and more versatile? :-)
Mike
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175.16 | | CHEFS::DALLISON | Stepping on the little people... | Tue May 02 1989 08:28 | 11 |
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.15 � does this mean that Classical guitarists are better
.15 � and more versatile? :-)
Probably. I am a "rock guitarist". And have seen some technically
pretty good players who fail to impress me that much - but I am
mesmerised but good classical playing. Unfortunaly, the attempts
at combining the two styles (al la Malmsteen and Howe) fail to impress
me even more.
Such is life.
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175.17 | | PNO::HEISER | B#, not Bb, you'll B(natural) | Tue May 23 1989 17:34 | 11 |
| > only composed the title theme. The main work was done by Arlen
> Roth who composed the majority of the blues music in the film
> the dual sequence was played by Vai and Roth but alot was also
> played by the actor Ralph 'thingy' who was taught to play guitar
> by Roth over a 3 month period with a 6 hour lesson per day.
Ralph Macchio has a credit quote on the back of Arlen Roth's Acoustic
Guitar manual, "...he taught me enough guitar to make it look like
I knew what I was doing in 'Crossroads'".
Mike
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175.18 | an observation... | PH4VAX::MCBRIDE | Pikes Peak or Bust!!! | Wed May 24 1989 14:14 | 3 |
| Artistic License: The way movie directors get the guitars re-tuned
in the duel sequence so that we can go from slide to classical on
the same tow instruments.
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175.19 | Anyone still got it? | BIRMVX::LANE | Engineerus Digitalis | Tue Nov 19 1991 07:27 | 9 |
| Hi all,
Just saw the film again, and want to learn that piece....can anyone
send me a copy of the transcription, preferably in tablature(sp?) as my
music reading sucks.
Thanks in advance..
Roger Lane @BIO
Birmingham U.K
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175.20 | Me too | HSOMAI::CESAK | Makin tracks..sales and rails | Thu Nov 21 1991 16:56 | 10 |
| How about putting the transcription here....or I would also like it
mailed to me.
Paul Cesak @ hso
ushs01::cesak
Thanks
Pc
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