Conference napalm::guitar

    In my mind:
    
    	Versatility == Mesa Boogie
    
    The Boogie also complements the Peavey in that you have a very wide
    range of options if you go to a two-amp setup and start getting
    into stereo delay.
    
    The Boogie has an extremely wide range of clean and chunky (slightly
    dirty sounds).  It has a great lead tone, but in the heavy-dirty-sound
    catagory it is not as versatile as certain other amps, although
    the latest models have made some improvements in this area.
    
    But be warned that Boogies are very expensive, but the vast majority
    of Boogie owners I've met think they are worth it.  Obviously you
    should sit down with one and experiment with it before ordering
    one.
    
    Another point against Boogies: One combo-style Boogie does not make
    a very good stage monitor.  I often have problems hearing myself
    unless I am able to point the speaker at my ears.  This is probably
    true of most small-combo style amps, but they are very directional.
    In the case of the boogie, you can get a stack-type setup
    for almost the same money that will allow you to hear yourself better.
    
    On the other hand, if you expect to have some other method of
    monitoring and run your guitar through the PA, the Boogie will probably
    give you better sounds.  I'm from the "stage-amplification-is-strictly-
    for-monitoring-and-less-is-more---let-the-guy-on-the-PA-board-control-
    the-house-sound" school.  I've even given some thought to setting
    up the boogie in the way you might set up a vocal monitor (in front
    of the band) and not using any other on-stage amp for the guitar.

    	db

    I also own a Boogie, and I love it. Dave's comments regarding the
    Boogie are right on the money.
    
    Speaking of money, though, Boogies are expensive amplifiers. If
    you don't want to spend as much, I was very impressed with the Roland
    Jazz Chorus amp. I don't know any details about the amp, (maybe
    someone else reading this can help you), but it sure sounds sweet.
    The built-in chorus gives a great fullness to the guitar sound.
    It might also fit in well with the music you play.
    
    -Dan
    

    I would also echo Dan's comments about the Roland Jazz Chorus.
    
    I consider those amps to be excellent "clean" amps.  The Chorus
    sound on them is indeed incredible and is going to be a whole lot
    better than any box you're likely to buy because it is actually
    a builtin STEREO delay.  The rolands are an incredible deal in that
    price range for clean amps.
    
    However, if you're going to use a two-amp setup with a DDL, that
    MAY limit the attractiveness of that stereo chorus because you could
    actually get a cleaner more dramatic chorus sound using the two amps 
    and a DDL.
    
    However (and this may seem like a contradiction), my current choice
    for a second amp to go with the Boogie IS a Roland JC-120.  The
    reason is that if you have a two amp setup with one amp getting
    a delayed signal, it is hard to switch between distortion and clean
    chorused sound because you definitely don't (or *I* definitely don't)
    want the delay in lead mode because it muddies up the sound badly.
    
    My plan is to use the Boogie for clean and lead, the JC-120 for
    clean chorused sounds AND stereo delay from the Boogie (the 120
    watts of the JC also allows it to go louder and still stay clean
    than the 60 watt Boogie), and control
    the whole thing with a pan pedal.  I've thought about this a lot
    and that setup seems to have the best options in terms of flexibility
    and control.
    
    	db

    Just read this and saw an ad in a Pro Sound flyer about a new
    Mesa-Boogie ... 20 watts, dual channel w/some good stuff (effects,
    etc.) built in ... right around $400 (cheap for a Mesa!).  Kinda
    small for any serious stage work but outa blow your doors out at
    home.
    
    AA

    
    re. 20 watt $400 mesa boogie...
    i dunno....
    
    tried a million amps in the last cupla years...
    i don't know anything about electronics except....ask dave dreher...
    that usually works....
    or ask len....
    
    but.....ya see.... boogie (and marshall) make this great sounding
    amp...50-100 watts with all the trimmings....800-1300 bucks...
    
    once ya get into the medium and bottom end of their stuff....they
    make toys that sound....ok...not bad...doesn't make me vomit...
    
    and those are the points...
    
    if it says "mesa boogie" on it and has all the trimmins and cost
    1200 bucks....buy it....
    
    if it has mesa boogie with out all the trimmins and costs $400....
    be very carefull about what your buying...
    
    i bought a 400 $ marshall...30 watts....it's better than....
    
    nothing
    silvertone
    crate
    peavey
    death
    a broken 30 watt $400 marshall
    
    but it's not REALLY a marshall...marshall just wanted to get as
    much of the market as it could so it produced a toy and called
    it a marshall.
    
    i played 2 small boogies at 2 different places and immediately
    (at the same places) tried the real ones....
    
    i wouldn't buy the toy....
    course, that's just MY opinion and can be totally meaningless.
    
    better check it out....

    THANKS FOR THE HOT TIP OWNING 3 LES PAULS AND A FEW ACOUSTICS COST
    IS NOT A PRIORITY IF THE AMP IS GOING TO PEFORM IN THE MANNER EXPECTED
    IT APPEARS HOWEVER MESSA BOOGIE SEEMS TO BE THE WORD ON THE STREET
    IAM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHATS A FAVORITE MODEL AND PERHAPS SOME PRETTY
    SLICK WAYS TO SET IT UP IN CONJUNCTION WITH CERTAIN EFFECTS 
    THANKS FOR THE FEED BACK / NO PUN INTENDED     SCOTTY